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why you did not go down to have massage in the Complex or fire some app and invite soothing boy? or just stroll along the beach as cheaper option to see some life and bodies ?

Guys most of you may not be aware but Lurkerspeaks, poster who initiated that thread 5 years ago and who was so excited with his first trip to Thailand ever, passed away during that trip , few days after arrival and day or two before His birthday. Hope He is in better place now

funny thing I agree with you almost fully even if my particular experience with money ' extortion " by the boys is quite opposite. But I can live with fact that I'm in exception category when comes to the matter. My statistic sample is very small , just 3 guys received money and one smartphone. Two out those three did not even ask, I did it on my own will. One asked but only once. All three confirmed reception by sending me a picture of them holding money which is good idea as it's always possibility of scam and stolen identity. One who got money on my own will did not even exchanged contact info when we met after the fact (whole thing was helped with by common friend). I went through list of contacts on Line today and only 1/3 of guys from there ever asked for handouts, exactly 8 out of 24. Other 16 still have their chance for refusal. So why I agree ? Those who asked were out of blue and often very persistent including one who wanted no less than 20000 and sent me bank account info right away. It's never pleasant to say ' no' even if request is entirely unwarranted, it's why your warning should be taken seriously

You don't need to pay that much , just say that you paid 10000 and wait to be stoned or something

I noticed that too, not quite gone but much rarer now than even 5 years ago. I saw one in Dec and one with removed mooks in May

probably because it's much easier , thus more common, to have good sex than good luck in love, specially distance one. So good experience in the first in prevailing over bad in the second.

right, I forgot it's Sunday today

who cares about customers ? we are there for a boys not their clients. But if you ask I see 2 differences more ladies in the bars but mercifully not in massages (yet?) 20 years ago customers had their wallets and presumably cocks and were looking at the scene or conversing with their companions if any. Now, cocks and wallets are still there but smartphones are fighting with boys on the stage or beside for attention

I know

repetitive yes but boring ? no subject ever generates that much heat like money, specially other's people money. It's why we have so many posts about tips like you noticed, we always had and in future we will. Interest in beauty of Grand Palace or Ayuthaya ruins fades fast when somebody posts that his boy rejected generous 1000 baht offer for long time and counteroffered greedily with 10000. I don't even want to start with thinking what would happen here if that 10000 was agreed upon and paid

when GW Bush was elected did we expect that next president will be black ? And when he was elected did we expect that next one will be Orange Overlord ?

I wanted to say that but you were faster, Then foreigners were rarity , now , at least in some bars they seem to dominate. Biggest difference is that then they had smile and cock, now they have smile, cock and smartphone which is often more rigid than their cock.

I also have my doubts how straight those North American guys you mentioned really are. Specially those who top but not bottom as viagra requires a bit of arousement to start working, no ?

I have that feeling we are looking at the future First Family when gerontocrats grip on the Democratic party will be released.

now is enabled to us, poverty stricken, cheap skates too

of course they are, otherwise why they would be presenting their wares to mostly male audience ? I always have my doubts how straight really those guys are

don't take it personally but this is common excuse for Cheap Charlies. I don't think we need any excuse for not giving money to somebody we barely know. We also don't need excuse if we decided to respond to request, it's all between us and a boy in question. Problem is not to get entrapped in barrage of constant requests like you were with that Patong guy. Then only thing that would work is either to block contact or liberally use phrase " I can't" without going to too much explanation.

since few of us can afford helping 9 boys at time I guess Gaybutton's advice applies more widely. I rarely share contacts and in cases I did , can't say is abused but yes, money requests are coming at least once from at least half on contacts , usually shortly after I left Thailand. My answer is usually " when we met I did what I could then"

In Western Union you still need at least his name, no ? OP wanted surprise

nobody asked me but I do : wake up, take shower , brush teeth, shave, have breakfast and go from there

Dreamboys, Tawan , Hot Male and Fresh Boys in Bangkok. Moonlight and Jupiter have shows too but on more tame side so don't expect to see naked flesh, even less erections there.

until they abandon that nonsensical zero covid policy it's better to stay away from China unless you fancy to get stuck in quarantine for couple weeks somewhere just because they find one case in city you happen to be

I agree with both of you 127.84 % but that's solution when we are present in person to give that money. When we somewhere far logistics of sending money may be more difficult ( we may need boy's full name , perhaps also copy of ID and address or bank accout details ) are more complex than going to specialized website and asking them to deliver basket of goods to say Eak at Good Boys bar , Sunee plaza , Pattaya

Nice Boys - next door types on a bit of rough but adventurous side. Shy types don't need apply there

that classic example of cultural difference. While in many places most likely both boy and you would laugh if off and moved on, Thai boy took it as offensive. As consolation , I had similar exchange with one of Tawan boys , replace " cute " with "I like you". Fortunately he took my "I don't like you THAT much " better, most likely because he knew me from the bar visits before and could have word or two about me from his bar friends. Subsequently I even offed him few times.