vinapu

you know me so well, LOL

Vietnam, 5000 short time but only once

that's most sensible advice although as we learn shortly , exceptions apply. Sometimes guys from the same bar did that before and may even suggest 3 some themselves, been there , done that and it was even my birthday gift from them as reported few years ago. But what I suggest as universal rule in 3 (or more ) some cases is that 2nd boy should be picked up by the first , not us. We should reserve right for acceptation but shouldn't try to force one guy to accompany another. They may not be comfortable and who knows, may know each other even if working in different places.

easier because the distance but Ii find those messages " how are you today baby ?" etc . annoying . No win situation we need to bear with grin I guess

Power Boys, closed for good

Day 5 Dum was great and earned 500 bonus in the morning. We went to Foodland for a breakfast, staff seeing me so often with different guys started smiling knowingly and that grin will not leave their faces for next 2 weeks. After that I went for a stroll to Lumpini park and from there by elevated walkway over canal to Benakiti park still under construction. At one time in future it will be proper park, now is lacking shade here and there but I liked lake in the middle and running track around it. Easy to get to by public transport as it’s close to Queen Sirikit MRT station and it’s how I returned to Raya to pack and move to Baan Silom in soi 3. Room was not ready so I left my suitcase and went again , now having proper location , to see business of former model X I met few times in Dec and have strong hope to be able to repeat feast this trip. It was quite a trip all the way to Samut Prakan, first by BTS to Samrong and then by taxi to the mall where his business is located. He saw me from the distance , warm embraces , treated me with his product, in fact let me prepare it by myself behind the counter under his watchful eye. I don’t remember who was first to suggest it but we agreed to meet in my room in the evening after shop will close as we need to discuss receipts he is using. I mentioned before one of our member is recommending certain masseur he managed to find when he was in BKK earlier and since I trust his judgement I gave it serious consideration , contacted guy in question who said will be free today but price he quoted me, 4000 for 2 hr massage in house freeze me. But member told me he is worth it with exclamation mark so what choice I had. Asked guy , Phakin is his name to come . I can see screams from economizing readers about that racket but if I trust somebody , I do. And yes , as promised it was worth it. Massage was very thorough and professional, at the same time entertaining as he turned out to be talkative with good English and with personality comparable to that of certain Z , star of my 2019 trips some of my readers may recall and great sense of humor ‘if somebody fucked me I land in hospital sure”. Not only skills are great but he is quite handsome and very, very well furnished. So after massage was over we had our share of fun or at least certainly I had. I’m glad my cheap side did not prevail because by economizing I’d be losing chance of one of most memorable massage sessions in my 22 trips. Sorry guys I raised your blood pressure for paying that much for massage but believe me , I know what it means money well spent. After he left I went to soi 4 to treat myself with another schnitzel at G’Bangkok. From there to Hot Male downstairs where paulsf was already there and reader who just arrived in Bangkok today after 2 years covid hiatus showed soon .We had lots to catch up and we did although I was kind of distracted by one of their host , diminutive Laotian who seem to like me indeed. Surely he got a drink and 200 inside of his jeans when I went back to hotel around 10 pm because X lined me that he closed shop and is on his way. Another case when I was glad to forget about economy since he charges as guy of his built and charm , whatever it means , should. Absolute gem as far as I’m concerned, talkative , easy going and outside of his few limits, very social so to speak. One of those who on the spot understand what customers likes and what makes him hot. It was past 2 am. when he left so our short time was not that short. Well heated I decided that spending rest of the night alone would be mistake I fired Grindr and found somebody in vicinity who agreed to share my bed till morning for 1500, yes, just to share by bed. It turned to be funny story which I already reported here : https://www.gayguides.com/forums/topic/37804-my-funny-apps-story-from-last-night/ And here’s just copy and paste of what I wrote then: Last night at 2 am or so after my companion left I decided that is too scary to sleep alone and I need somebody if only to warm the bed and embrace me in my sleep, in short, no particular requirement and even brother of Hunchback of Notre Dame will do. So fired Grindr and it was somebody shown at 58 meters away, still online. Actually nice, good looking and at 178 not too short so I sent a message, answer come right away agreeing to complete the night from now till whenever. I gave location and stated that I will be waiting in front of hotel. And so I went downstairs looking right and left to a completely deserted soi for somebody to show but it was still empty. In about 5 minutes somebody appeared emerging from my hotel. That was a guy actually better looking than on an app. Turned out that he is in the same hotel. So via 7/11 we returned there, in elevator it turned we are staying on the same floor and when I asked what room you are staying, it was revealed that it was one opposite of mine with our heads leaning at the same wall, just from other side. So distance of 58 meters really was more like 28 centimeters. Who would think I was so well positioned? And good news is, I wasn't asked for taxi money!!! Easy money for him as I really wanted just somebody to embrace and pleasure for me as he was better looking and gave better feel than I expected based on Grindr pics. To complete day 5 , in the morning I invited him for breakfast triggering another round of knowing smiles by stuff at Foodland

there are blinds inside shower glass you can draw to privacy so no need to admire anybody using toilet

problem with those websites is that they are not updated regularly so I wouldn't place much hope buys from the pics will be still there

Elephant Plaza hotel closed for good

sit down in bar of your choice , order the drink and rest assured you won't be sitting alone for long. Either boys will approach you or you spot somebody interesting and you invite him over. Yes , you chose who sits with you although some boys are not that shy and may try to plant themselves beside

not my experience unless we replace 100% with 33%, then I can agree. Perhpas my good luck but I just counted goings from last trip reported in this thread. Out of 14 cases I paid over the odds / market , you name it, I'm fully satisfied with 10 ( 3 different guys, 2 new , 1 known from previous trip ). Yes , perhaps argument can be made I'm not demanding enough but still I think I'm in better position to assess what is good value for me. Other 4 cases I can describe as very satisfied but overpaid (1), price was ok but I expected more (2) and price and performance were matching but guy reneged on time promise which is important to me so money partially misspent. (1). Both "price was Ok but I expected more" were guys I offed on previous trips and it's why I'm bit bitter/ disappointed. On another hand shortly I'll be reporting short time engagement from Grindr in Pattaya, 1500 and I don't even recall guy's face and body and it was only 3 weeks ago tomorrow. I rather add 2000 for memories

yes , bit slower than regular one but quiet indeed

yes we are talking about different guys

it's about models only, I never observed excessive tipping of floor guys there. I think both you and jason are right, some tips are from devoted and somewhat heated clients, often Asian girls and some are staged to create a momentum for more tipping. Those garlands is wasting money as bar keeps 250 out of 1000 client pays for it. Better to do your own if one has urge to hang garland on the guy but why not to tip him 1000 discretely ? I guess difference in culture and some want to show off that their money knows no bounds

everybody wants best price and they won't know what market bears until they ask. It works in reverse, customer will not know how low guy can go until he offers low and see reaction

actually many claim they are freelancers so they are not paid other than for show participation and cut on drink price . As for tips from customers it may be lottery specially for less popular and less endowed guys. Reaction of one New twilight guy on his 100 tip he received from one of our members showed that it was feast not seen for quite a while as he showed it to his friends and was kind of applauded.

sometimes even in great detail but only between themselves. When comes o to other customers they are surprisingly discreet. I offed few guys recommended by other members or who saw me with other members and never ever they commented on other party other than neutral "your friend ABC is nice guy" , " I did not seem your friend for a while " etc I recall only one exception from few years ago ( member no longer ) " you like kiss and cuddle , your friend likes fuck right away" but even that will not even point who fucks whom. When talk about our tips to their friends , not always they are sincere. I had cases when they either understated or overstated for some reason tips received. But often when I ask a boy what he expects answer is "the same you gave XYZ" so you better have an explanation is planning on differentiating compensation in the same bar. Butterflying has own advantages

Scene no but THE LOOK quite possibly yes. After off , particularly more than once, boy may consider you as customer who owes him off every time he enters his bar. If he moves bars and you happen to be in his new place , same, same. While rarely it will lead to anything nasty you may see him planting beside you uninvited, ordering drink before you were even consulted , in short acting like next off is sure thing in cards so we need to thread carefully not to inject any sense of loyalty unless we wish to. I found that playing diplomatic games won't work but blunt approach 'I will not off you tonight", " I came today to off XXX " , "I'm not offing anybody " works the best

We really don't know until we actually ask and answers may be surprising. I know very bigoted and racist lady , mother of 2 and grandmother of 6 who is all for gay marriage. When I asked her why answer was ' It's coming sooner or later anyways so let them have it" Then there's my former neighbor, gay men not that happily married to another guy who is firmly against gay marriage saying 'with gay marriage comes gay divorce so better not repeat my mistake" And my close friend since 1974 whom I recently discovered to be firm Putin supporter in war against Ukraine, possibly shock of my life.

# me too and only as emergency service or to spy on familiar faces ( I noticed waiter who was serving me in restaurant day before and well as receptionist in my hotel ) It seems that if you are not in place you are checking in you can't sent a guy message on that version

or during their walkabout slip him 100 baht, chances are he will smile at you broadly and when he will be on the stage you can motion him to come and sit with you or he may even approach area you are sitting hoping for the same. I usually avoid mamasan help in any bar if only I can help myself keep in mind that if boy has no number it may mean he is not available and is already reserved but yes , that should be confirmed too

yes, but those places are only shades of former glory while Foodland Patpong is still alive and kicking , specially now when it was awarded World Heritage badge by UNESCO to which this board members were instrumental , LOL

in Pattaya I still know about two One is just past TukCom - look for exchange booth, another one in soi Post Office. Used first two times 3 weeks ago when had problems with accessing e-mail

aren't you supposed to be tired after work?

Jomtien Complex has about 20 of them one beside other under one roof. There's Pickety in Boyztown proper , right opposite of BoyzBoyzBoyz beside Castro show bar. And I believe Euro Boys in Sunee Plaza but there are better Pattaya experts here than HN* me *Humble Nobody