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you too harsh, when we off guys we can use some limiting factors to lubricate decision making process. Nationality as as good as any other like hair color, type of underwear, size of bulge, smile, you name it. We even have poster who decided and announced that Moonlight guys are not his type before he even went there. His name is paborn if you want to confirm with him

I almost exclusively do long times since morning gymnastics are one of those small pleasures of life and it's only way to have somebody handy. Long time is also cost effective as guy-hour is my cheaper that 1 hr short time for say, 1000. While Hanks advice about hiring for long time somebody already known is very sensible I'd not hesitate to off new guy as long as one have sense of some chemistry. I did it many times and it usually worked with less than one per trip exception Never had anything missing nor detected unusual activities other than waking up in middle of the night to drink something from bar- I usually tell guys what is mine and what better not too touch because of expense and they seem to understand. It makes sense to secure valuables in the safe but I'd not be paranoid about that if you realize that you left something in the open. Some are cuddly , others more business oriented so to speak but usually when they agree for long time they stick to their side of bargain. I always set time frame - till breakfast , whatever time it means. Some are trying to leave as early as possible, other will stay as long as you decide to invite them to leave, after all they have life outside of work like all of us but usually when I tell them that time is important for me they will oblige. It may sound strange but I noticed they if I show them in the evening " this is your tip" ( I do it only with guys previously offed) they tend to stay longer and I'd think out of greed they be trying to escape my embraces ASAP to start spending but no, decency prevails and they try not to rush sometimes even asking in the morning ' this is for me?". As for dining, I have iron habit to ask all my long timers if they are hungry when we walk to the hotel and if they are I offer them dinner in place OF THEIR CHOICE ( some may not be inclined to be seen with farang in classier place , other may like it to show off where they frequent , not to mention food choice) If I'm hungry I eat with them , if not I just snack on something so thay don't feel rushed. Again , quite often they decline, usually because they are more disciplined than us and if they had dinner already don't see need for another one. On another hand if they chose place or dish too expensive I may intervene unless I'm curious about experience. Often they are very happy with familiar street food for 60 baht. In the room I like to shower together but don't force an issue if (rarely) they prefer to do it separately. I hide TV remote At breakfast I invite them to go together unless I'm not happy with their performance or dumping me too early and usually they are happy to start their day with hearty meal and I'm happy to pay for it. But at breakfast choice of venue is mine, not theirs. What I don't do and don't like is them asking for taxi money, if they do I bluntly tell them that they got your tip already and it they are in need to small money I gladly offer to change one of their 1000 notes into 10 100 baht ones. In short, if you inclined for long time, just do it and don't think too much as boys say

Great and exciting report, thank you

quite well despite of Orange Overlord's efforts

I noticed it too that muscly guys are very happy to show off their built and one scores well with complementing them. Why the hell you did not off him ? Such perfect specimens are not handy all the time. I understand you had your reasons but I still wonder.

I don't know. I was in Arena many times and never ever any trouble with neither mamasans not guys. Still have goose bumps from anticipation when climbing stairs there after all those years. One of mamasans there Art is actually quite skilled in massage as well

you do. They saw and heard it all before so use advice from spoon and z909 above and you will be OK. Mamasan's job is to get you off the guy so he may lie, it's better to talk to guy directly. Keep in mind, if you really like the boy but he claim to be a top, some of them may change their mind in the room. Even if not , in my opinion its better to be with under performing guy I like than one I don't fancy really but I'm taking him only because he answered ' yes' to any query. But it's just me.

Look at bright side - remember that in order to return we need to leave first

smart you, I got a bit carried over and let him to lead me there with resulting corresponding tab but to his credit next time I offed him week later he noticed that I did not like it so we went to more reasonable place. I think is best to limit activities just to a room as he is best enjoyed naked , not dressed for a club visit. LOL

nothing to be afraid, after all you are paying customer so you can convert that tiger to a lamb. Kong was top in f***k shows in XBoys before he mover to his new bar, one of those guys with very average face but excellent body shape

but they still may look better dancing than standing still

if you arrange through mamasans they may charge you off fee so it's better so talk discretely with boy in question to arrange daytime visit and avoid paying off fee. Some boys may be still reluctant for fear of being seen with customer so my still suggest you pay fee regardless of timing ( I had one such case , not in Moonlight) In October it was 350 and second drink 200 only but now it may be bit higher.

# me too but it makes sense to warn others that he has expensive tastes so better be prepared. Readers of my Oct trip report mat recall that he ended up paying for expensive club tab because I run out of funds ( reimbursed him later in the room but it was a bit embarrassing and annoying at the same time.

that's funny, quite a few people are saying that. I , for one, am very opposite , feel very generous in the beginning and as trips in winding up , stingy sting starts being active, LOL I guess we all have our own way of extracting fun from Thailand.

unless somebody is from neighboring countries very fact that he could afford flying to Thailand makes him affluent enough to go to My Hero. I agree , it's not a cheapest place but had advantages of whiff of luxury to pamper ourselves

joy of sightseeing in Angkor is that often you can beat crowds easily just by crossing the road and it may be something interesting few steps away. Most of tourists are herded to most popular temples ( Angkor Wat, Bayon, Ta Prohm and Banteay Srei ) leaving a lot of space elsewhere. My most enjoyable part is walking on top of the wall surrounding Angkor Thom ( city with Bayon at the center ). In parts one feels like almost alone in the whole place.

really? did you ever bother with visiting Angkor?

this is what a447a had in mind in his comment perhaps Hank was not aware about forum rules but those who visit forum regularly and often still could have a glimpse

MahaNakhon is tallest building in Thailand. Do one really needs Google Maps to find it? It visible for as far as Bearing BTS station and Muang Boran park. Jason , did you step on that glass?

both I guess

try Moonlight and new Jupiter 2018 in soi 4 for massages Senso and Prince, check new Hero as well

Excellent report you got me REALLY interested in those two bars, since Cambodia is one of my most favorite countries I have my sights on returning to PP

then we will have boys on stage glued to their smartphones and customers in audience glued to bar's ipads, fun indeed ( to watch the scene from the door )

perhaps because years ago we were different too, more attractive looking and even more enthusiastic ?

Hopefully you will find your way to Nice Boys, glad you have a good time in Pattaya