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or be adventurous and see what happens, yes it may lead to disappointments but also nice surprises. It really depends of what fun you are looking for

And don't forget there are other bars with your type, Jupiter , Dreamboys and for more massive guys-Tawan, In fact in every bar you may find somebody you will like to get acquainted with better. Massage places may have even more guys of type you like

nothing surprising and nothing to be proud of, it may turn to be dangerous in the long run specially in country lacking normal avenues to vent frustrations with military in charge and well known stifling laws

You don't need order alcoholic drinks, since in most bars all drinks costs the same , be it water or shot of gin and all in between , you can order whatever you want without a fuss. Some bars even have hot tea or coffee. If you will be sitting in bar more than 1 hr they may start harassing you for second drink, some bars with 2 shows have even sign ' 1 drink, 1 show" but stand your ground if you wish and nurse your first drink as long as you want. They may not like it but it's their problem. I find that slipping 20 baht into harasser palm keeps him at bay, LOL as much as I like Thai bars and guys I don't trust their arithmetic skills so feel free to check what amount should be as sometimes 2 times 380 is becoming 860. In some bars boys drinks have different price than yours, sometimes higher , sometimes lower. Also second drink in some bars is cheaper (Moonlight comes to mind). If you pay with big note make sure you got correct change in return , again poor arithmetic may lead to shortchanging you. Not too common but it happened to me few times , even in reputable bars like old Jupiter.

OMG, with so many tasty option , no wonder we have "Overweight Passengers " thread on the forum

gingko biloba ?

Don't worry , we all were nervous first time and probably most of us still remember our first bar visit, certainly I do even if that was 17 years ago and bar is long gone. Even now after so many trips there are places I still get goose bumps on approach and I don't even know why. Don't overthink it , just immense yourself in Bangkok joys and watch your pocket ( nobody steals from you, Thailand is safe country but when you see all option you mat be carried over a bit by excitement )

fully agree that belittling people because of body shape or size is shameful but still accommodating them in public transport shouldn't come at expense of other paying passengers because politeness or political correctness. That's up to transport provider not person who paid for and was assigned full, not half seat. Readers of my October trip report may recall that I visited internet cafe in soi Post Office in Pattaya to find owner outside and warning me to enter at my own risk because guy inside smelled whole room up. It was not as bad as I expected but at least I had a choice, what choice one has if locked already in silver tube 10 Km above squeezed beside oversized person ?

since I don't have much trust in bar's staff arithmetical skills I have a habit of paying my bills as soon as they arrive and I made a point of being prepared with exact change.

it all depends on the boy, most of them don't mind to shower together if you ask them but if you notice some reluctance let them to do that alone. There will be some who will shower with you before but not after and those who will want to shower separately before but gladly after the fun ( often you have that in massage places). Some will prefer to shower alone , than do what hank75 above is suggesting although I'd hide TV remote as I don't want guy to get distracted by things more interesting than me. If your preference is to shower alone - you are the boss. Bottom line is there's no standard procedure other than both of you should shower at both ends of encounter. Don't overthink whole procedure, just swim with the flow and you will be fine.

welcome to the forum you will pay off fee to a bar, usually 400-500 baht, ask in the bar what their fee is, you will pay it to mamasan who is guy in charge of boys and likely will be sitting / standing very close to you asking ' which boy you want' tip for a boy you will pay directly to him in your or short time room, after the fun , don't let anybody else be any kind of intermediary , in Bangkok count on 1500-2000 for 1 hr although guys from soi 6 bars ( Super A , Golden Cock ) may be happy with 1000. Never tell anybody in bar that it's your first time in Thailand. Probably they will sense it anyways but lie with straight face.

let us know how it went when you visit next time

you could come out seriously damaged from such a domination

unfortunately yes, off fee for models was 1000 in Oct and tip expected 3000-5000 ST only way of finding whether it's good value for money is trying, LOL

Arena is even closer

they come in sizes like XL 56

finally somebody was brave enough to speak the truth ! Thank you for a good laugh I think those ultra thin Japanese 001 condoms reported on one of forums recently are much better use of modern technology than tip collecting, dried cum stained ipads

I don't recall any problems with mamasans at Freshboys / last visit in Oct / . Like everywhere else if they ask for undeserved tip I tell them I tip only if they let me to touch their cock. Works always, only exception is doorman at Hot male , one with bandanna, deal is a deal, I placed my 100 baht deep in his undies right there at the bottom of stirs and we both had a good laugh. Freshboys has and always had good mix of types and if I have time or money to visit only one bar in the soi it will be them. Whenever change comes in coins in any place I scoop them all and put whatever tip I intend to give in note/s/. That is common practice in all tipping countries , to give a change in small denominations to make tipping easier. Immagine settling 400 tab with 500 bill and getting change of 100 baht note, lots of patrons would grab a note without even thinking about tip so no reason to complain that bar personnel is acting smart.

no doubt girls reading this forum may be interested

that is good idea on condition that one is not very picky if whoever knocks the door is a bit different from person imagined based on the pictures. But definitely will work on hiring somebody known already, saves trip to the bar and all those drink costs but also deprives one all those smiles from personnel on the stage and a general fun of being out.

that's scary. Immagine you are flying back and immigration has complete details of whom you offed, how he looks like, how much you paid. perhaps even conversation and all of those room sounds from time both of when you got heated, all thanks to technology. Than of course , thanks to that progress next day you have a lot to talk about with your co-worker and and end of day with your boss. Knowing looks of your neighbors are for granted. And all that thank to our own begging to make life easier. If you believe privacy laws will protect you , take it from me , it will be no more than international laws prevented Reagan from taking on Granada or Putin snatching Crimea from Ukraine

what if they still insist on a charge , otherwise deny entry ? , do we really want to create a commotion, embarrass ourselves and a newly acquired friend who is with us? It's better to be sure joiners fee is not crossing hotel's mind at all.

to see sights you are interested in ?

tell them you need to save money for other pleasures. I rather spent the same money on 4-5 long time offs than pay extra for premium economy or whatever they call that racket lucky you , 12 hours only !

Try Jupiter, Screwboys and at least one bar in soi Twilight. If you like muscle, Tawan is your place