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looks that it's easy to get to by songtaew from Boyztown , not the I care as visiting western style mall in Thailand for me is an abomination

I think it's rather behavior of drunken asshole who all of the sudden felt brave

and that will be one of those grave injustices

Day 3 After breakfast Oud went to his room and I took BTS to Saphan Taksin and took tourist boat to Wat Arun as it was while since I was there and boat trips along Chao Phraya river is essential for me every time I’m in Bangkok. While regular express boats are cheaper I like tourist ones as seat is guaranteed , they move in slower pace and even with 50 baht one way ticket I found it very good deal . 120 baht day ticket with unlimited stops is even better deal. Boat departs every 30 minutes beginning at 9.30 am. I spent about 1 hr wandering around and then returned to Baan Silom to pack and leave exactly at 12 noon and made my way to airport as this time I decided to go to Pattaya by Jomtien bus. Had some meal waiting for my departure and in about 1 hr 40 minutes I was in Jomtien bus terminal, crossed street to catch immediately passing songtaew and few minutes later I was back in Classrooms hotel right above ABomb bar. Somehow their system remembered me because girl on reception said ‘welcome back ‘ and I doubt she remembered me from 2 days stay 3 months ago specially that entry to hotel is very discreet, by card operated side door so patrons and personnel are hardly scandalized by hotels’ guests shenanigans. Very spacious room with balcony, full sized refrigerator, tea/ coffee making facilities, all makes it for very good deal. And on the wall picture with obvious gay theme. After settling in walk across the Second Road to Cha Cha Cha , recently discussed in a separate thread here to try recommended chicken with cashew nuts, one doesn’t expect from me anything else, right? Nice décor in rustic style , place is obviously new and I wish them luck . Only few other patrons, all of them Japansese dining at other table, handsome like hell. At one point one of them wen t to WC and both my and waitresses eyes followed him , fact not lost on the boss behind the counter who smiled knowingly. Then some walk to check what is old and new and as evening settled I finally arrived to Boyztown main soi to see from the distance that Kao at Copa is on duty today so off we went for massage by that adorable hunk who recognized me immediately as well. Highlight of any trip and any day for me in Pattaya, unfortunately he doesn’t work every day as he has daytime job . Well built but still cute and soft spoken is true gem. 400 for the room 1200 tip. Then some beer at Copa bar waiting for beginning of BBB singing and clapping. After while Yut , well known fixture of the soi spotted me and came for a chat , very chatty and funny personality with good sense of humor but getting on with years and good thing he found a day time job now only moonlighting at Scandic. We will meet him again few times as he pays good attention to goings in the soi and seem to know how his acquaintances are doing and with whom. At 9 pm, BoyzBoyzBoyz crew went out for their spectacle and I was quite a disappointed because I couldn’t see Art , my favorite from there and in fact nobody attractive. And this is from the bar I consider best in Thailand, I should say this in the past tense as now I passed crown to Moonlight after this trip. As I learned later , now all lost as lots of crew simply did not go out for one reason or another and dozens of prime material still inside. Nevertheless what I saw was a bit disappointing. Shortly after williewillie appeared walking into soi so we started chatting over drinks and heaven opened with quite a rain. Since we wanted to see Dreamboys show I run to my hotel for an umbrella and in that rain we went there . Show start at 10. 40, I liked it and it seems that performers are external and quite hunky. As I learned later after Dreamboys they seem to jump for another show to BigBoys down the soi. Few tips distributed and walk across the soi to XBoys for their midnight show . I have boy there I offed long time year ago so he came immediately for a hug and 100 baht tuck and since he is performer in few numbers including special ones this was not his last tip tonight. For quite a time I’m watching veteran there , A, #10 but finally this trip I decided to give him a try , specially that he seemed to recall me as well. 4000 suggested for long time, this is not Bangkok so fast we went to reasonable level, 500 off fee and we marched to metal tables restaurant in the corner for a late dinner and a chat. He speaks reasonable English and is quite chatty. I must watch what those boys are ordering because bill came to 700 but I had a good time and he had a good meal so we made good foundation for hot and enjoyable night. I liked him a lot. In the morning walk to Ambiance for a breakfast , again some lavish meal choice but I was happy to pay as a token of appreciation for his no rush attitude. So I finished day 3 very happy.

now those who are finding presence of Arabs in Sunee offensive are somewhat vindicated and justified in their opinion . This is what happens when people living in the cage of their closeted and oppressive countries get some fresh air travelling somewhere else - they choke on it unleashed. For getting drunk he hopefully receives well deserved 57 lashes upon return home.

it all depends accepted by whom? lots of our definitions used in the West are remnants of colonial era and are hardly universal. Russians are Europeans , even those from Vladivostok which is further east than Korea , easternmost continental Asian country. For Vermontians , Georgians southerners but is a case for Floridians ? West refers to Middle East but some Central European languages are using term Near East but what kind of east Saudi Arabia is for Malaysians? Very western east I guess.

Day 2 After last night debaucheries I was sleeping soundly till 10 am. I did even notice in the morning what just happened – very unique situation for me , nobody beside me in the bed and that bed is in Thailand ! Breakfast at Foodland, then stroll through Lumpini Park, meeting my friend who provided solution to my potential budget troubles since my ATM cards are left home as I mentioned before and return to the hotel where I was expecting visit from ChristianPFC to begin our customary bar tour. At 6 he arrived and we marched , despite rain to Madrid Tavern in Patpong for pizza dinner and chat. By time we finished so did rain. Since Christian already reported that tour in his blog, here’s the link, trip report from Oct 7 starts after initial bar introduction : https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2018/10/surawong-gogo-bars-oct-2018.html I can add few my own impressions first being that is hardly any bar in BKK where Christian is not welcomed warmly by some of his acquaintances from previous arrangements. Tokyo Boys which opened in Jun is now empty place which will have warm spot in my heart as I was first customer to off from there on their opening day. Surprising was bar few door away which turned out to have not only girls but also 2 male employees, unfortunately none of us found them hot enough to stop there. Our main stops were Fresh Boys, Hot Male and Screwboys in each of them I asked some boy to sit with me for a drink and tip as trip is short and time can’t be wasted. One in Fresh Boys recognized me from previous off in Dec 2016 and one in Screwboys was Yo whom I also offed few years ago. Leaving Hot male I even managed to slip my hand inside of undies of one of barkers , not that my hand was empty. I know him from the past and kind of like him, one with bandanna on his head. It was past midnight when we left Screwboys toward soi 4 where at Jupiter I was expecting Oud will patiently wait for me as agreed last night. Bar was quite empty but he was there, no drinks, just off fee and off we went passing by on our way to Oud’s motorcycle Christian still surveying the soi 4 goings. There are adventures and there was familiar warm and muscular body to keep me company that night, small jubilee as it was my 10th off of him not counting last night’s short embraces. In the morning usual Foodland breakfast and day 2 and with it ¼ of this trip was over.

they seem to be pretty irregular those days, try Tawan , New Fresh Boys above Screwboys in Patpong as well as Screwboys itself for second show but no guarantee. Alternative - off two boys from two different bars and they will provide you with the show with option of joining in.

oh , I think I'm safe, LOL

I rather have bar full of Chinese including girls than empty one on verge of closing forever. They don't off that much , yet, but started already. Some tend to tip lavishly and they drink a lot . Some massage boys in Boyztown last week were surprisingly stiff on tips requested so I think they wanted to cash in on Chinese wave. Did not make me happy but skipped few of their advances to get even. Russians did not bother me, Chinese don't bother me and next wave whoever it will be, Indians? Timor Lestians? will not bother me too

you contributed a bit to it by inspiring me to take short trip if you recall our end of summer PM exchange

and then we complain bars are going out of business and how good old good days were

that's great news although bit too late for me as I'm back home. Hope it's true. I was passing by at least twice every day when in Bangkok last two weekends and there was no activity inside at all, building was tarped from roof to bottom and looked abandoned. Perhaps they found temorary location nearby ? Although when need arises Thais can do things fast. It was the same with re-opening My Hero - three days before announced date it was just building site and on the day there were opened as stated.

yes , in Boyztown but is seems In Sunee and Jomtien we are still holding up. Whatever it takes to keeps bars running is welcomed, all those groups you mentioned are keeping busines alive and kicking for us as well

I was in Thailand just in Jun so not that long ago. In reality it just happened, not planned as only thing I envisioned for first day was to go to Moonlight and see offing model situation. I guess all that horniness came out of finacial situation, after forgetting plastic at home I knew I will be restrained so wanted at least one full fun night but help was around the corner and as with old friends is , no questions asked.

my pleasure meeting you anddy, it was fun and good time had by all. Yes , usually on my first day I'm on the roll, like that unleashed dog in the park. But you right , when i recall that night I think too , I outdid it myself but pleasure ( and expense ) was mine

what stamina ? just utilizing my short time efficiently, my trip was just 8 days, no time for second guessing

enjoy while it lasts !

Day 1 continued With such a good start I briskly walked all the way to soi Twilight where I expected to see paulsf and anddy and indeed they were sitting together keeping seat warm to tired traveler me. If you read part 1 you may notice that I n mentioned only ice cream and it was really my only meal since breakfast aboard the plane about 10 hours ago so yes , I was hungry. By the way , on more than one occasion massage boys told me not to eat anything at least 2 hrs before massage so it must be some science in it. We exchanged latest news while surveying the scene with all boys rushing to their bars. I noticed that my semi-regular Namu from Bangkok massage is absent and indeed his brother working there confirmed he went home. Nice to see my forum friends and all that surrounding eye-candy but as time progressed I felt that itching pushing me toward Moonlight bar, not only because it’s where I started in Jun but also because firmly, hell or high water , I wanted to try one of their models. Subject is discussed in depth and wide in Moonlight thread so it may be some repetition. All of them are super handsome but I had Sunny, Nicky and Fluke in mind whatever happens. Sunny because I like his face and his performing skills – great dancer and acrobat. Nicky , because he is one reader in his recent trip report described sharing drink with him like flying close to the sun. Fluke because his super muscular built but avoiding being oversized. No , I did not count on getting any smiles from them which is my usual requirement for an off but sometimes we need to bend our own rules. But first show which starts at 10.30, drink 350 second drink 200. Show quite progressive with cocks poking here and there, few funny numbers with boy collapsing on another , impaling his mouth on other guy rigid tool and then there’s models parade after which they go through an audience wai-ing everybody and collecting tip here and there. So when Nicky happened to be passing by where I was sitting I just forced 100 baht into his undies as it’s my way of tipping guys in bars and he stopped right here , shaking my hand and inviting himself to sit just beside me. Drink / 350 / ordered and delivered, some hand holding , some embraces, wherever my hand was it was smooth skin and steely muscles underneath. Amazing feeling. Honestly I don’t recall who initiated going away subject , me or him but it did not take long for that being on the table. 6000 asking price , not only very high but also above my self imposed limit of 5000. Contrary to popular belief I have my standards and let guys to have theirs but 5000 ( I can hear screams already ) was approved with 3 hrs time frame. But wait, there’s more, off fee while regular 500 , for models is 1000. I’m not sure if offing those models is daily occurrence because mamasan collecting fee seemed very happy and thanked me more than once. I wanted to see rest of show, Nicky went to dress and after show we went out where I was invited for a ride. Literally. He has a car and asked me to go with him to a club to have some meal and a drink. Not my intention , not my scene and not that I was prepared for financially , as it turned out later , very unprepared financially, LOL. Sure I could firmly say no, let go to my room but ever curious what happens next I agreed. Not that he had something in mind close by, we went all the way to Thonglor to a place called Ainu-Japanese style club and restaurant with wallet parking and this being Saturday packed by young hi-so Bangkok yuppies. On our way we stopped at gas station where I was asked to contribute 700 to filling tank fund , LOL, not that I expect anything else. I don’t frequent such places so was quite happy to see how other half is having good time specially that nobody paid much of attention to us although I doubt anybody , even with most of patrons drunk already, thought we are father and son couple . In short no fuss. Nicky ordered some drinks and food and I just quietly thought ‘ wait until bill arrives / I had 2000 left on me /. But it was fun, he was not shy to hold my hand from time to time. They brought some Japanese specialties , don’t ask me what it was but taste was heavenly. So in short I had a good time because of triple novelty for me – situation , venue and food. Not even for minute I forget that all that fun must be paid somehow. When he called for a bill , it came to 3900 something ( scream ) I pointed to my poverty of having half of that but he did not lose his cool at all and somehow paid it , of course I told him I will repay as everybody knew it was actually me who invited us there. Then our car was brought from parking /100 tip / and we went for very nice trip to hotel, holding hands with such a hunk all the way back to Silom. In room perfect , no rush , slow move session. No I did not think about the cost , it was pure pleasure. No attitude , no time watching , not even mentioning “where is my money for a club” just professional and classy behavior . Sure one can say for that money it should be but we all know money buys only that much. Certainly most expensive man session I ever had but something to remember and feel good about as well. And for me it was not even over . When we parted our ways, all paid I went to soi Tawan to buy some ice cream , just to cool down. Passing by Sun massage beside Tawan I noticed some cutie still on duty at that time, but went to 7/11 first, returning had a second look at the guy and pat on my pocket revealed something there. Since it was my 1000 baht pocket I told him straight that massage ok but 1000 is all I have and he agreed for reduced tip / massage there costs 300 for 1 hr I think/. So we went upstairs, not much massage anyways as he went straight for an indecent touches, I did the same but it was nice and energizing hour. I even scrapped another 200 in 20 and 50 ties to make him a bit happier at that time of night. It was another client in cubicle beside and it was some commotion as he claimed he doesn’t have as much as he promised boy, sometimes I feel sorry for guys and that is reason why some massage places are collecting money up front . No I did not go to bed, 3 am I wanted to see sleepy Silom so went all the way to quite deserted Thainya with few people still sitting here and there. It was almost at Suriwong where I felt pat on the back. Oud !!! Former Tawan boy , transplanted to Jupiter was drinking with two girls when he spotted me passing by. With 9 off over the years almost all long times obviously he remembered me. Warm embraces and kisses straight from movie set on such unexpected , late night reunion. I went to join his friends , contributed 200 to whisky fund, had few rounds, nice girls and very good looking they were and was no need to pretend we are just friends as Oud loudly was thinking whether he still should visit me tonight or not , even if we already settled on the next. It turned out that he just gives me a ride to hotel on his motorcycle as it was very late or rather early so we said good bye to his friends and went to hotel. There , late or early he decided to drop by just to see the room . Then things went heated course when we hugged , not much happened past just body contact but body he has ! short time is short time so brown note changed hands although I don’t think he expected it but I have my standards. So my first day was long one , most expensive ever, packed with 4 meetings and considering long overnight flight leading to it I wondered why I’m still alive sleep deprived for so many hours but somehow I survived that rollercoaster and pocket drainage

you just too demanding

This trip , my 18th was a bit experimental. Most my trips to Thailand were short ones but always in connection with visiting other countries in neighborhood or on my way somewhere further away. Never flew that far just to be in Thailand for 1 week only and return home . Due to few factors I decided to try such foray this October, chalking that month off as well as it was my first Thai visit in October. It leaves me only 6 months to cover –Jan-Apr and Jun / Aug. Schedule co-operated to optimize my time as I could leave hometown just past midnight and return in the evening. And since trip is over I must say , surprisingly perhaps for me as I considered this idiocy, it worked , chances are I will repeat the feast in the future. Not most efficient use of money, that’s sure but as long as airfares will be reasonable it’s not only doable but turned out not being so tiring as I suspected ( jet lags are killing me more and more as I age but long flight seem to be shorter and shorter at the same time). First time I took Taiwanese Eva air and have only good things to say. We landed in Taipei 4 am so with outbound flight at 9 it gave me plenty of time to explore airport which is very unimpressive from outside but interior in places looks more like exhibition hall than airport. It was kind of fun to see how crowds are getting denser and denser but first 2 hours it felt I had terminal to myself. Leaving was much less fun as we were stuck on taxiway for 90 minutes waiting in long line of planes ready to take off . I feel sorry for claustrophobic in that situation but I had been in worse – 4 hrs in Chicago several years ago – very high wind stopped all traffic. Arriving at noon was breeze and this is how my day 1 started. Short immigration lines, exchanging money in one of railway station booths – best rates I saw that week everywhere, train to BTS Phaya Thai, then to Sala Daeng and short walk to soi 3 to Baan Silom . I did few stupid things this trip and at one point I realized that I have on me only cash , no back up plastic which inconveniently was left on my desk at home. So I said ‘ vinapu, now short class on fiscal discipline’ But I said it loudly enough for my Guardian Angel to overhear my quiet resignation and as it turned out , help was there. I just commented in one of threads that I don’t keep in touch with my boys but I do with friends in real life and one of them happened to be in Bangkok on business . I’m telling you , it’s hard to be atheist those days. Not that I’d be starving but certainly my certain activities would be curtailed quite a bit specially that as we learn very soon I left fiscal worries for following days intended to live my first one to the full . Baan Silom assigned me different room this time with less sizable washroom and safe and closet actually in the room not washroom like last time and again I can recommend it as it’s quiet location only short walk from mayhem of Silom and rooms are of very good size and well maintained and appointed. After decontamination / 29 hrs on the road door to door / I did walk around Silom if only to learn about my first disappointment – Art from Nakarat massage , shining start of my June visit went home . Then walk to Senso found place , recently damaged by falling construction crane , bolted and abandoned meaning of that that I will not see M and that’s the guy I have more chemistry with than probably anybody else from my semi-regulars. As I had Prince on the schedule for this trip I went straight there. To calm my nerves I bought an ice cream which I finished sitting outside beside quite a hunky and tattooed guy who had his smoke. We finished at the same time , went inside and I just pretended to a while to ponder my choices, no too long as place was busy with at least 5 other clients and I ask mamasan to point to that guy. For 1.5 hr , 1000 baht session. He warned me he may be tired as I’m his 3rd customer toady / it was only 6 pm ! / but I told him same same here. Quite possibly guy was tired as he did not seem particularly keen but I told him up front that I know he is tired and not to worry , I like you, he smiled , I smiled and we went to one of outside rooms after paying my fee. Vietnamese, his name is Fibre, massage was very good although , since we had 90 minutes we started somewhat non-standard with several minutes of quiet and soothing embrace. That improved things greatly , energized both of us / jet lag / and he mutilated me with gusto, building good foundation for a night ahead. Minimum tip of 1500 increased by 500 , for a good start, well deserved. Poor boy , when we were about to leave he got call from mamasan that he may have somebody else for him, talking about harvest ! Anyways , fully recommended, not trying any shortcuts on service or time and it needs to be said loudly, my first memorable massage at Prince ever. day 1 to be continued

if we will patronize them , chances are they will. Sad news of Bonny demise but since Sokchai left I admit I never returned and preferred Bangkok Massage in the soi, hope Bonny's boys will find employment there

I'd be waiting for your impression as in my opinion , other than location , Jupiter 2000 and Moonlight have nothing in common and completely different vibe. Chances are that I support your opinion about Jupiter 2000 fully, I liked bar and looks of their boys but never had any good luck with them, Fortunately can't say the same about Moonlight- 4 off and all worth a trouble and definitely none of ofees was time watcher - serious affliction of former Jupiter boys I was dealing with. so extrapolation of old Jupiter experience to Moonlight may be misplaced IMNSHO

100 % agree with what you say. My point is that in order to discuss beauty of Himalayas or view from Eiffel tower is better to prepare ourselves by visiting respectively Nepal or/ and China and Paris first. Nothing more , nothing less.

what you need is to go and see for yourself and only then opine about excessive pretense and shortage of reality. I wish I was smart enough to even understand what your comment really means.