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you should see it ! Even I was laughing at my achievement but I did it , I haste to add with enormous pleasure. LOL I think I even responded to few PM boasting about my feast, still smiling at recollection. As you see I'm not one concerned about lack of fun in Thailand.

Day 6 Morning scene I will remember for long time. Boy still in a deep sleep and me catching up with news, forum and e-mails on my tablet, typing furiously with one hand having another one firmly placed on his rigid tool. One of those boys not in rush so it was almost 11 when we went for a breakfast to some place Thapraya Rd, than he took songtaew home and I returned to the room to pack and change digs again. This time I treated myself with 2 nights in the penthouse suite at Ambiance just for fun of it and to improve my self-esteem perhaps. Big and well appointed room with 2 TV sets, table, seating area separated from bedroom and a balcony with good view of soi and Pattaya bay. Good deal for 75 $ but whether such expense is warranted and necessary when decent room can be had for half of that price I’m not sure but certainly it felt good to be there. Best way to get reacquainted with Boyztown area was to get a massage in a small place on 2nd Road around the corner at entry to shopping mall. I passed by the place many times in the past and today decided to give it a try if only to see what boy I found attractive is hiding in his track pants or whatever he was wearing. Another Cambodian toiling there, good English, not a bad massage and a real fast shooting gun as equipment . Geyzer is too small a word to describe , what was even more funny all affair happened in a complete silence since they have only curtains separating tables from each other. Another 300 +1000 tip Pattaya massage , that more memorable than others. Word needs to be said about weather this trip, it was my 4 time in Thailand in Jun and definitely temperature this time was mildest of them all by far, it was hot but not unbearable ( I hate the heat), it was raining but never too long. That the beauty of rainy season in Thailand that one can expect rain to be over soon while at home we never know if it stops in 3, 13 or 30 hours. So another stroll along Beach Rd surveying sois one after another and treating myself with ice cream from 7/11 from time to time. For 7 p.m I was invited by biguyby for a dinner to Berliner Café in soi 13 so we met there and had a nice meal and conversation , thank you biguyby for all your time we spent together this trip. Then I parked myself at Serene to watch Boyztown traffic which despite today being Saturday was not dense at all. In 2 ½ hr I spent there I did not see even one massage boy in the soi getting order. Few punters stopped and asked, one Chinese looking returned 3 times to the same Copa boy / very handsome at that, we will return to him / but still no deal. Boys seem to have it tough. Thanks God for vinapu and his bonus from work thought I shamelessly. At 11 p.m. I decided to go to A Bomb energized by the excellent selection I saw few days ago so I went and was taken aback a bit. What a change ! Than all boys on stage were very attractive , today only 7 left and only two of them # 222 and #19 are offable material for me , good enough but lesson is not to believe any reports completely as things in bars are changing from day to day or perhaps even from time of the day to later hour. Both boys I liked , liked me or at least faked well they like me radiating smiles but somehow I decided on # 222, decisions, decisions. Long time , today no, tomorrow yes. Short time today till 2 am promised so lets go. Other 6 boys got 50 baht consolation prize each from me and shortly boy and me were sitting on darkened veranda in front of my penthouse room drinking beer , talking and getting close while maintaining appearances. When it got too hot we moved inside for more fun. I liked a boy , both personality and a look and he was succumbing to my machinations but something did not click entirely. So leaving time of 2 am was suggested to be changed to 1 because of something and as far as promised long time tomorrow I heard that he never went long time with client before ,perhaps I should look for another boy was suggested , so much for plans and promises. Perhaps he did not like me for one reason or another , who knows ? I liked him so gave him agreed short time tip 1500, at 1 am we parted our ways, reception called me to confirm that all is OK and this was signal for me to go downstairs ad try my luck again. Where ? At BBB of course. Second night without Art seemed out of place but he was gone already , yet still several boys were on the stage and as for leftovers all good and very good looking. As per my own advice smile decided so I took one , a bit chubby, pretty faced and as it turned in the room very clingy. It worked very well, empty bed avoided and both evening and morning gymnastics well executed, happy birthday vinapu ( today was my birthday , hence penthouse treatment ), 2000 tip and day 6 was over.

sure , go ahead , if you don't try you will never know if you like it

Day 5 In the morning boy left and I was grounded in the room for a while due to rain. Too bad I let him to go too early thought I but damage was done already. Lazy day, lunch at Dicks, then stroll along Dongtan beach – did not stop there as I’m not a beach , sun and sand person. I stopped at Bamboo bar , few boys on duty and had one to have drink and few embraces with but somehow there was not enough chemistry to take him out so left him 150 tip and returned to Complex to have a massage at Blue Angel with one of their boys. Nothing memorable , just good massage by boy with good body , just regular 300 / 1000 tip affair. Then a nap in the room , well deserved after last busy evening. In the evening meeting dinner at Salt and Pepper with aussie_, of course I treated myself with chicken with cashew nuts and after we set ourselves for grand tour of Sunee plaza with first stop at Double Shot bar for a drink and talk. Next walk through deserted and darkened soi past Good Boys to next stop at Nice Boys. Bar busy , almost full , lost of boys on stage actually dancing and shamelessly showing their wares, good vibe and fun. Few tips distributed, had one boy to have drink with plus some indecent touches for an additional compensation of course. At one point door opened and who showed up ? Christian PFC himself. He liked what he saw so aussie and me left him there after we set to our next stop – Winners the twink kingdom as all Sunee is , but I , while fan of muscly men I ‘m not into discrimination and kind of like what I saw . What I saw was # 10 , tall, bit older boy so invited him for a bit of intimate contact over drink . Very fast we came into long time agreement but due to fun in the bar we did not rush departure , soaking in the atmosphere for some time. Another historical moment for me as this was my first ever off from Sunee. Before midnight three of us walked to baht bus and managed to catch one passing by right away. On destination aussie went his way and # 10 and me straight to the room to utilize another spare towel not to mention very , very good use of that fun devoted sofa conveniently placed at the foot of the bed. Great and memorable evening , night and as it turned out , morning of day 6 as well. So day 5 was over and end of it was not a quiet finish as not only we had our fun but also in the room beside was steamy session going on and from the sound of it, seeping to our side of the wall, some local boy put his equipment to a very good use on some very grateful farang.

makes sense what you say above, what I observed is Chinese girls behavior is more modest if they are on mixed company i.e. with men and women. They seem to be more wild when they are just with other girls only. As hanan said , they may prefer having exposure to little of boy's skin as it helps them to keep appearances better. I think we put puzzle together and this would explain phenomena of bars with rather fully clad boys being busier than those where they are more exposed.

somebody lucky enough to off them may have live show at any time but as we were warned they are not really keen on being offed. In a year or two they will be is my guess, time does the trick. I know few boys who I had problem keeping in the room for 1 hr 3-4 years ago and now long time seems to be no problem. lol

Day 4 Kiss is a restaurant on 2nd Road often recommended so today I decided to give them a try , hopped in baht bus and few minutes late I was there, not much traffic in the morning but as I saw I later days it is really popular and deservedly so. Breakfast for 90 baht is good deal, even with rounding price to 100 which I did. Today is bit of historical day for me as for first time I’m planning to sleep in Jomtien Complex. My choice was The Venue, junior suite proved well furnished with regular table, sofa suitable for night games as I discovered later, room very spacious , everything was working but part I liked the most were two additional towels in the cupboard. It seems they are proactive in preparing room for guests entertaining more than one boy , either in sequence of together. I walked around the Complex , very quiet mid-day but for me it’s still new territory as other than massages in Fah and now defunct Derby Massage I never entertained myself there. Spotted nice looking boy in Soda massage so went for 1 hr, 300 baht session. Nothing wrong and nothing memorable , just regular massage with hanky-panky as second half so 1000 baht tip well earned. A bit of lazing in the afternoon since it was raining but in the evening I went to Tukcom where I was supposed to meet with biguyby and Christian PFC at 7.30 for a dinner and some bar hopping. We aimed at often recommended Salt and Pepper restaurant only to find it closed which was kind of shock as both gentlemen claimed they saw it opened in last few days. But things are getting closed in Pattaya all the time so we settled for one of French restaurants beside Tukcom. While looking for suitable replacement I noticed that crowd formerly dining in now closed Ting Tong Red is having their meal in one of restaurants in the same row. One of dinners was williewillie so we had brief handshake and promised to see each other on another day. Three of us had a great meal in great company , lively conversation, in short great start to a great evening. Nourished we decided to do some sightseeing beginning with Kawaii bar. I was never fan of it as boys are too skinny and looking too young , there were only 6 or 7 of them. Drunk Thai sitting in the audience looked more interesting to me than boys on display and my customary departing tip went to mamas an , also skinny and diminutive and at least pretty faced. Few day later news hit that Kawaii closed for good which is not surprising me but can imagine that some fans of twinks may mourn it’s passing. Next step was A Bomb and it was eye popper for me at least – I was it that bar many times , offed few boys from there but today’s selection was by far best I ever saw. Out of 8 or 10 boys on the stage almost all were offable material and to add to a pleasure quite a few of them showed an interest in me smiling broadly, blinking eyes and trying to draw attention to themselves. I liked particularly number 19 and 222 but as I said almost all were prime material, manly, muscular but not hunky and their underwear looked well filled in. Next step was XBoys where show was about to start. In comparison to 2 days ago few changes , few new routines, shower show with only one performer this time who happened to be my long time off from September. He recognized me, smiled and later approached to collect his tip. Boys are known for a good memory and he remembered not only my face but also that we slept together and name of hotel. He was also top in today’s f***k show even if other top was in the bar and we had him sitting with us for a while. So got another tip from me for that part. I’m not big fun f public sex but always tip special show performers if only to appreciate their devotion to the job. Mercifully sound was not as deafening as I recall from precious trips. So lesson for those bored with shows is to try a visit again as is both performers and numbers are changing , as we saw even in span of 2 days. After visiting three bars together biguyby and Christian decided to call night off but I , being on short vacations decided to carry on and went , as tittle of that thread says to take Art from BBB to my new digs in The Venue. Invitation smilingly accepted with a little concern about the starting drizzle but we managed to reach hotel on his motorbike dry. Show at The Venue was on the last numbers so we decided so see what was on offer , ordered 2 beers and 4 arrived to my surprise. It turned out at that time was 2 for 1 offer, so we had something to take upstairs with us. Bonus for Art was his long not seen friend who was in the audience with his permanent farang boyfriend so they had brief reunion. In the room routine the same like last 2 nights including me teasing him about long time and him saying ‘ no, no, no , I want to sleep” , but nevertheless great and adorable guy with excellent massage skills body , well equipped and good conversationalist as well. True shining star of this trip. It was past 2 a.m. when he left but Complex was still busy and noisy with some party so I went to see what is going on. Party with live music at Question Mark couple dozen of patrons still there so I joined in having moment of enlightenment that it’s time to test usage of that spare towels in the cupboard. Several bar boys around , nobody standing out so I asked twinky boy who brought me my beer if he wants a drink and he turned out to be thirsty. No doubt Guardian Ange got involved because as soon as he sat down and had a sip he asked me gentlemanly question “ are you sleeping alone?” . It took no time for me to answer “ no, with you”. So it turned out rest of my night ( not much left as it was almost 3 a.m. ) was Cambodian affair. Well not much of affair really as we both were quite exhausted and felled asleep pretty soon after embracing each other but very pleasant sleep it was . I cleared with him before we left if 1200 tip will be acceptable as it was all Thai currency I had on me at the moment after quite busy evening as we see above. And this is how day 4 was finished.

they look great on the video but greater still in the flesh on the stage

thanks God taking boy from bar to watch TV together in the room is still legal

while like most of us I like to see as much their bodies as possible I find those boys in jeans looking sexy so for me at least that dressing style is not detrimental. What I find strange is I don't like jeans on me and in my long life I owed only one pair. Hanan's explanation above makes sense but from behavior of Chinese ladies I see in bars I have my doubts too much skin is shocking that much - I have impression they know very well what they are coming to bar for and any shock they pretend to have is just stage performance for their friends IMHO. But again busiest bars in both cities are not showing too much skin although Pattaya's second busiest one / Nice Boys / is showing plenty of it but this is farang's playing ground still.

what impression I have is harder to get long time from boys I like to have it with. There are always twinks for salvation but I'm not much into them but as they say "if you don't have what you like, you like what you have " Sure smart move would be if boy doesn't want long time not to off him at all and see what happens but on short vacations I don't want to play such games, specially with boys I like anyways. The same goes with excessive tip requests, facing choice of off and no off boys usually yield. But I don't like those games as it may create some bitterness and I don't want to have much to do with bitter people boys or not. At end of day is not that bad it will be only one more such empty morning this trip and as we will learn not for lack of suitable candidates.

Day 3 Lonely morning in cold bed so I got out of bed at 8 and went to Foodland Pattaya for their breakfast treat. Rest of morning and early afternoon I spent lazily walking along the sois, visited Central Festival Mall and night Market nearby , spent some time on internet and treated myself with some pedicure as my cracked feet demanded some attention. In short perfect vacation day doing nothing and wasting time ending with another meal at Alt Heidelberg. At 5 p.m. I was already in the room as I was expecting visit from Kao the masseur and true to form shortly after he called with gentle question if I need massage today. Sure I did so in few seconds he was in the room . For a change today half session was repeat of yesterday’s but another half I actually massaged him. Couldn’t resist caressing of such an attractive body. Taste of paradise for 1.5 hr. After he left I parked myself over gin and tonic drink on Copa’s veranda watching soi life going by and waiting for biguyby to show up. Couldn’t shed an impression that my drink was actually 50 % tonic and 50% of tonic with gin in the name only but really who cares. In meantime I noticed my another favorite masseur from Copa, Ko sitting with customer but it did not stop us from exchanging hugs. Biguyby showed up soon after, we exchanged news and decided to march to XBoys for their show if only to repeat the same routine we had when we met 2 years ago. Lots of new boys at the bar , mostly twinks, silicon cock gone , music toned down to a level enabling some conversation. Show had few traditional numbers including shower show and f***k show to give an opportunity to distribute some tips. I found both participants quite attractive even if they were twinks mainly owing to their broad smiles. We agreed to another meeting tomorrow expecting Christian PFC to join us for dinner, biguyby went his way and no prize for guessing where I went and what for. Very tittle of that thread says it all. Of course I went to BBB to snatch Art for another round of massage, conversation and fun. Did not even need to enter bar as he was outside so gave him 500 for off fee and soon we were in my room at Copa for quite a lively late evening session. Burden of my pocket eased by 2000 baht and enlivened by energetic session instead to going to bed I decided to go for a stroll to Walking street. I took a bit of circular way through all Boyztown sois and near former location of Vassa I spotted M, boy from now defunct Oscars. We both were surprised and he was very pleased that I remembered his nick. He was my long time off in Sept and daily drinking companion in the bar. Unfortunately somebody was giving him lift after work so we did not talk for long and I continued to a mayhem of Walking Street still busy even if it was very late. Few interesting scenes, at and of street small congregation observing funny scene of midget talking business to a working girl twice his height and very attractive at that. Funny scene and neither seem to mind all attention they gathered . Two hunks in top tanks and very short shorts strolling through the street created sensation among girls outside inviting them to their bars , patting them on the butts but I had an impression that they were as much interested in them as myself but eye candy they both were, I mean 4000 baht long time types. Late at night arrived back to hotel for another empty bedded night and second one with A/C shut down. And this is how day 3 finished.

difference is that in coffee shop you can only watch and admire , in Jupiter you know that for consideration of perhaps 1500-2000 baht you may actually put your hands on the boy for an hour or two. Drinks at Jupiter are 300 only

It seems that everybody would agree but on my recent trip I visited almost all bars on Bkk and Pattaya and clearly and BY FAR busiest were Jupiter 2018 and BoyzBoyzBoyz , none of them prominently featuring boys in just underwear, go figure !. It looks that nature of go-go bars in Thailand is really changing ( and dressing up a bit ).

Day 2 Boy declined breakfast together offer so I went alone to Foodland Patpong for my regular treat of discounted breakfast at 65 baht , available between 5.30 and 9, after 9 price goes up to a whooping 81 baht. Return to hotel , packed and off to Ekkamai as this trip I decided will me mainly Pattaya affair for me with Bangkok as appendix only. Contrary to what some may think reason was not a prices, indeed much cheaper in Pattaya but very good experience I had with few boys last September and was hoping to meet them again. Pretty pleasant weather this year, it’s my 4th time there in beginning of Jun and by far weather was the best with manageable rain and not much heat, in fact for few days my cousins reported that they had bigger heat at home than I in tropical Bangkok. 108 baht for bus , twenty minutes waiting and I was on my way. In Pattaya to get to the hotel I took one of those songtaews waiting at the bus station and for 50 baht shortly after I was dumped on beach road in the mouth of Boyztown. Sure there is cheaper option by just crossing the street and taking regular songtaew for 10 baht but I consider 50 reasonable offer. I mentioned above good experience with some boys and one of them was Kao, masseur at Copa, on approach whom I see? Beaming Kao looking at beaming the me ! As it turned out he was first time on the job in one month as he has daytime bartnding job somewhere else but today , due to Vishaka Bucha ‘dry’ holiday he was free so decided to come to Copa, good job my beloved Guardian Angel !. I told him to stay tuned as I needed to change money, took haircut on my way for 150 and shortly after massage fee of 400 was paid and fun started. Not a bad massage but what a body ! Of course he suggested repeat tomorrow just before I opened my mouth with the same suggestion. 1200 baht for my pleasure, kisses , smiles , ‘ see you tomorrow’ embraces. Happy , happy me and him. Since it’s good practice not to eat before massage I felt pretty hungry so for a meal I went to one of my obligatory 4 food stops in Thailand – Alt Heidelberg restaurant on the Beach Road around the corner. ( for investigative minds other 3 stops are Foodland and Madrid Tavern on Patpong and Oasis on Suriwong). Alt Heidelberg could use some renovation since it appears excesively to adhere to Alt / old in German / designation but food is good, both farang and Thai and it’s good people watching spot too. After nourishment I wanted to walk around but body reminded me about me being in Thailand barely 27 hours and jet lag started to kill me so returned to my room and don’t even remember how I fell asleep, waking up at 9.45 pm. Good timing to go to BoyzBoyzBoyz thought I , so after refreshing and shaving ( in Thailand I always shave just before hitting bars ) I entered what I consider best bar in the hole country. One of mamasans recognized me and rushed with handshake, than Art standing on the scene beamed his broad smile which warmed me immensely as he is one of those I precisely come to Pattaya for. Then one of boys Arab looking veteran there whom I never offed but always tip smiled and only missing grin was from Kaow who as I learned later from Art did not recognize me. It was Art who reminded him about his off with me last Sept. I got good seat so could enjoy the show , quite new. In a break boys presented themselves and it was great assembly of male beauty, great indeed. In meantime I was object of adoration of my neighbor , Chinese looking in his early 40ties who seem to like hair on my hand, leg and chest . Being in charitable mood I let him to play a little pretending I don’t see it but when his hand went up the leg his fun was aborted by a gentle slap. May be I should not to waste such occasion as he was quite good looking but I did not suffer indignity of long flight to see him but to have massage by Art. So after BBoys dynamic show ending with surprisingly meager tipping by the patrons, I slipped 100 baht into Kaow’s and one more boy undies, waved art over , paid 500 off fee and marched him to Copa for reacquainting session of great massage and surprisingly interesting conversation no to mention other exercises. There was no doubt he remembered me very well and only dark spot of the evening was his flat refusal to do long time, oh well. No means no. So after he left I went to bed alone , my first lonely night in Thailand for a long time. I mentioned agreeable weather – I turned air conditioner off for the night, rare trea and it was end of second day.

cleraly they are trying to find what market will bear as I'm 100% sure I paid 380 for drink on Friday , their opening night. But such pricing chaos may be confusing and not good for business , hope they will settle soon .I wish them well as I liked my experience there.

I do but I'm glad such gloom is tormenting them , not me . I rather pay attention to still full half of glass

( my underscore ) well said, ,it's why I always advise to take only boy who is smiling at us

smart move , after several years probably he is too long in the tooth to stay in the business at end of day all we need is one boy we like

have fun, formula for better 4 hands experience is to pick up first boy and let him to pick up another one with our blessing of course, at least that is what i think

Vessey Nobody could have written better obituary, I love it

for price I paid probably you would if you were me. Where I'm I have few choices but basically they boil down to departing at decent time and arriving at ungodly hour or departing in middle of the night and arriving at convenient time. It looks that however I turn , my ass is still behind me as my grandmother used to say.

thank you China Eastern, this may happen to any airline. I guess I just had bad luck but at least they handled this efficiently creating minimum fuss. on return plane landed exactly as scheduled at 2.29 and landed so smoothly I did not even notice when we were rolling on the runway. I'd gladly use them again .

are we now the same people we were 15.25 or 35 years ago? is person looking at Wat Arun form the boat for 17th time in the same awe he was at the first time.? When we mourn passing away glorious days of the past are we mourning passing away what was then or just our own long gone youth and vigor ? Just asking all you saying above is truth but what amazes me that good chunk of those still coming or living there seem to do so only to complain how current state of affairs makes them miserable and how good things were. it's like posters who complain that forums are boring but still they return and still complain , what the point? I just returned and what I had was just fun , fun , fun. Upon reading forum I see gloom, gloom , gloom. For me something is not adding up but that's my problem I guess and I'm glad to have it. LOL

don't forget that drool-worthy for one warrants running away screaming for another one, lesson I learn each time I do bar hopping with others And then there's a question what we are looking at in the first place, boy may have ugly face but beautiful body ( I noticed one at Moonlight recently ) , or may be not that attractive looking but is well endowed if that's important. Also look is one thing but what about performance ?. Last Saturday night I was at Jupiter with xiluzer, another member. And there was that great looking boy each of us had bad experience with few years apart. All we could do was to shake our heads in unison.