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I second Om Yim / 1000 baht / at lower end and Tarntawan / 2000 baht / a bit more classy, other budget option is Nantra Silom in Silom soi 8 / 1000 baht / and BBB Inn / 1320 baht / - where not only you will not have problem with visitors but you don't need any as they have quite a few in-house massage boys, skilled and willing. Other than Hero /Arena/ Senso I'd recommend Adonis and Fan Club in Convent and Banana Club in the same soi where Hero is as well as both Bonny and Bangkok Massage in soi Twilight where most go-go bars are located. Walking along Silom as plenty massage shops are presenting their boys outside and you are spoiled for a choice make sure you visit some Go-go bars in soi Twilight, you have 7 to choose from as well as Jupiter across the street and Screwboys in Patpong itself. Don't miss Tawan if you are into muscle and I guess you are. As for touristy stuff Grand Palace and Vinamek with vincinities are a must, get there by the boat from Saphan Taksin BTS / elevater rail /station, closer to Silom you have Red Cross Snake farm across from BBB INN, one of two such institutions in the world, 2 different shows daily, save a ticket. If you are into shopping, upscale countless malls along Sukhumvit stretch of BTS between Siam and Asok, Chatuchak market on weekends only and street markets along Silom and in Patpong at night but really whole Bangkok is one huge shopping center. For fun try fish massage either in Patpong 1 or Suriwong, 150 baht / 15 mins Other questions ask and we will chip in.

do you remember name of that establishment ? Can you elaborate what made it horrible / selection , massage , cleanliness. etc / use private message if you dont want to go public with your grievances

we can start with continents we are residents of

don't worry, obviously some of members did not bother to vote or if they did, they lied as I know at least 5 quite active contributors are still in their younger years so we have better age mix that pool would suggest

According to last week's THE ECONOMIST, Bangkok airport was only big airport in Asia with declining number of passengers last year, I hope there are signs visitors returned.

actually it must be something with those last day encounters as it seems from various post that those dream boy sightings few hours before taking off are quite common, happened to me last Nov with boy from Uniman as well. May be last day we should be spending packing and doing touristy stuff not to stress ourselves out with missed opportunities. Eric certainly is not wasting his extended vacations

if somebody is itchy for personal attack he can use private message, still hidden behind the nick. Mercifully attacks are very rare here . it's why I like this forum

it looks that between 40 and 70 we are pretty evenly distributed, at least those who responded

about using condom you better be in ' I do ' camp , not " I don't care"

why , you are under 30 and your boyfriend over 85 ?

Overweight men can do their part covering too , we also tend to forget that our 18th birthday was many years and kilograms ago

I was there with boy from Adsonis already so mamasans left us alone

you are correct about remarks being insensitive but he has a point generally speaking about looking at tourists behavior, sometimes watching in various countries how tourists dress and behave I can't stop thinking that they are asking for a trouble. Some people think if they have money they can do whatever they want and forget that they are still guests in other country. My comments are general, not related to the case above. Only thing which cause me to rise a eyelid was almost immediate suspicion by Thai police that murder was job of migrant workers-some things are the same all around the world, blame outsiders.

Now you know why in my oppinion best beach in Thailand is Fresh Beach Boys bar in soi Twilight

I just got e-mail from friend who is in BKK right now settled in Narathiwas area and he says that tourists are present in great numbers to a point that is difficult to walk along Silom so it looks that low season is not that low at least in BKK

Next round of dance will come when people of say , Hebrides or Shetlands decide they still want be part of UK , not an independent Scotland, see examples of Transnistria and Moldova or South Ossetia and Georgia in former USSR. those things tend to snowball and if somebody thinks this is possible only in wild east look no further than Northern Ireland. ( Hi Nirish ! )

we do have plenty if i recall correctly you like to stay at Om Yim and so do I, neither of us has quality of vacation in Bangkok reduced much in comparizon to staying in say , Dusit Thani, 3000 baht saving per night. I'm not saying spending money on Dusit is waste but if one is forced to look for savings lots of them can be found easily without much harm

it's called grey power, right?

Dollar is dollar but equality of income source in most cases is distorted by taxation rules of source country so 1000 $ of net rental income not necessarily equals 1000$ of dividend income after taxes , if any, are calculated.

I had similar experience in Arena in May 2013, came quite late, past 9 p.m. , only 3 boys available. Boy experience was good but mamasan was not happy he needs to wait until we were done, bottom line : don't show up too late at massages as selection may not be there. Yes , I liked selection at Adonis as they had all types from twinks to hunks on both occasions I was there last year.

This was far sighting indeed. But tyranny of majority can be replaced by tyranny of minority and those 42 minnows can held majority of population hostage. EU is good example when on may issues consensus of all member states is required thus Malta with population of 300 000 can stop accession say 80 million strong Turkey to EU.

I think you mean Estonia if I recall correctly. But bottom line of this is they did not separate because of referendum win but because decaying USSR made it possible.

It can't be denied that Singapore did very well after breaking from Malaysia so sometimes breakups works.

Reading all the above I start liking myself for not liking the beach / any beach , not just Dongtan /, simply beach is not my idea of fun It looks that lots on money was wasted on those walkaway covering and uncovering exercises. And can't stop wondering , does junta have noting better to do than cleaning the beaches, blessed country Thailand one again.

trimming standard of living not necessarily means compromising it. If one has 10 shirts instead of 20 standard of living is not compromised other than doing laundry more often, minor nuissance. As for ATM there are many far from retirement and still performing that task for boys, not always unwillingly. After all even Christian admitted to lavish some 100 baht notes on boys just for fun in one of BT bars not that long ago. Spending money can be fun as much as counting it.