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I believe that that particular ship has already sailed! With India/Pakistan, Ukraine/Russia, Gaza/Israel to 'his' credit (almost!) he must feel that that Nobel Peace Prize is (almost) within his grasp!

This is obviously worrying; I had rather naively hoped it would all have died down by now. Not just worrying for those directly involved of course, but also for its potential impact on the many Cambodian boys that currently work in Pattaya in massage and bars, etc. My Laos BF used to go monthly (bi-monthly now) to the Cambodian border to get his visa renewed, this last time he said he need to go back to Laos to do that, and of course he needed to fly as the bus journey was so long. No only did he fly there, he has decided to stay there a few days before flying back. Costing me a small fortune haha. A small group of other Laos boys working in the Complex, did pretty much the same thing, and like my BF are still in Laos for a while longer at least (I know one of the lads farang BF who, like me, has had to stump up extra cash!). My Thai friends in BT and JC say that at the moment the conflict is not an issue with their Cambodian friends they work alongside at the moment, but how long will things stay that way if this border dispute festers or escalates further?

The parameters of this are huge because there is nothing set in stone, and all up for negotiation with your chosen boy. I have 'met' boys for the first time only at the actual threshold of my hotel door having found and engaged them via Hornet or Thai Friendly. They turn up at you door, knowing that they are there to provide sex for an agreed sum; they perform their job, gratefully accept their remuneration and, are off out the door again. Other boys you meet in the bars and 'break-the-ice' over a drink or two with them before offing them (or not - depending on how your drinks interview has gone). If you do off them, then you might well have already had a discussion about 'what next?', straight back to the room and have-at-it?, or eat first?, or go for another drink somewhere else? You might well have had the short-time/long-time discussion; personally I generally prefer to opt for short-time for a first visit. It is always far easier to turn a short-time into a long-time if things go well, than to try and turn a previously agreed long-time into short-time if things didn't go so well. Once you have had that initial short-time with a boy you will be thinking whether he will be just a a one-off so to speak, or whether you are going to want to see him again. If the latter that is when I start to invite them to eat with me first/afterwards, or whether to suggest a night out bar-hopping, or dancing at Stonehouse or Sinlapin perhaps as part of their next visit. I now have an established little band of 'regulars' that usually just slot into my daily social calendar as is conveniant to both of us, sometimes its an afternoon short-time with food and/or swimming in the hotel pool, sometimes its going to be a drunken long-time evening with sex in the morning. Its whatever and whenever you both want it to be

In Pattaya it is far from unheard of for female shop workers or similar to find themselves short of money when it comes time to pay their room rent, who will stuff their panties into their handbags and go and try their luck freelancing on Beach Road to try and get a customer or two to cover their short-fall.There is often even a boy or two as well to be found standing on the Beach along the lower parts opposite Mike's and below, although I have never yet tried to engage with one. Personally I have had one or two experiences of non money-boys. There was this super-cute male waiter at Stonehouse on Walking Street. We got chatting over several visits, but he insisted he was not a money boy. However his rent time fell during one of my visits and the lure of my baht was finally enough to convince him to visit my hotel for a short-time. Success!, but tempered with him being very shy and having to be gently coaxed out of his clothes, yet alone anything else, haha. (Second and third times with him were much easier and more fun for both of us!) The vast majority of Karaoke boys are straight, but some will prove 'gay for pay' in the absence of female customers, particularly during low-season. One such boy from Diamond is now a regular 'top' of mine. Another regular is a cute gay boy from Bangkok who currently works in a restaurant who will come and stay with me for two or three days each holiday on an agreed daily rate. There are cute lads everywhere in Pattaya if you look around you, doing normal jobs. Always worth a smile at them and see what happens? If they return your smile it might just lead to you getting better aquainted with them; they might not be money-boys but they will quickly guess what's on your mind, and you never know your luck!

@Marc308 It sounds like you are making a deliberate choice for the older, more mature Thai boy/man. My first thoughts were that that wasn't for me, but it has got me thinking. When I go out exploring the bars of Pattaya and Jomtien for new boys, my attentions are mainly focussed on younger twink boys. However, I also spend time each holiday with lads who I have been with many times before. Some of them up to ten years ago, and who are either just under 30, or a good few years over 30 now. And part of the reason that I still see them is simply because I have grown to like them as people, but also because I usually enjoy great sex with them. Probably not just their maturity, experience and unihibited approach, but because umpteen years of growing sexual familiarity has taught us how we best respond and react to each other. On average I am far more likely to successfully cum with one of them, than I am with a shiny new twink no matter how attractive I find the boy. So not quite your way of thinking I suspect, but maybe I am slowly getting there .....

Same premises, I think. Royal House Massage, if it is still operating, is the day-time incarnation, morphing into a karaoke after midnight? 22e1897a-9149-4207-8f1d-972b02017334 (1).mp4

I can only really comment on Friendly Club that I know and love. Actually there are two of them now, the original on Soi Kapai and a sister one a couple of hundred metres away. They are essentially Karaoke Bars, although not like the little intimate singing karaoke bars of old (maybe still are). THese are indeed more like host clubs with anything from 20-50 badged boys on stage on any one night. Most Karaoke boys are straight, but some can, to varying degrees, prove 'gay for pay'. The badge numbers are essentially to identify them during the hourly call-downs (usually about 200 baht a time for each boy). Some places like Diamond Karaoke they can usually be offed (if they are willing of course) in other places (like Friendly) that has to be done by private negotiation with the boy when the places closes (5-6am?) as the mamasans will insist that they are only host bars. I say, if they are willing, because gay customers are not the target clientel, it is ladies, often bar girls with money in their pockets from satisfying sweaty old farang like me during the day, out to party with pretty young Thai boys. (Again I would say that Diamond is as close to gay-friendly as I have found, its boss used to be one of the 'big cock boys' in X-Boys on Soi 13/3 until a few years ago and understands his gay cutomers). I love these places but, being farang, I still feel more comfortable if I am bringing one or more Thai boys (offed from the bars) with me to party. Once the whisky is flowing these places can be huge fun, but they are not cheap; every boy you call down is 200 baht (or more ?) for an hour of partying (and usually flirting) with you. Some karaoke boys are happier flirting with a gay crowd than others - but usually always plenty of takers. If I bring two or three boys in with me, and get through one or two bottles of whisky, and calling down two or three boys to join us every hour for a few hours, a 'bin' of 6,000 baht or more is not uncommon. So not an every-night thing unless you have deeper pockets than mine. These are essentially Thai establishements aimed at Thai customers, but I have never yet been refused entry at one: baht is king! Clip is from Friendly a year or two ago, the bare chested boys are all Karaoke staff 20.47.mp4

I too love to be kissed, particularly during the final moments before I cum, indeed that is often the act that finally gets me over the line these days. One of my favourite boys is well aware of that, and in threesomes (that he loves), he will do the kissing (and nipple) bit while the other lad works away on my cock 😅 But like many older, overweight, guys I am well aware that I need to take active steps to avoid any bad breath on my part, and not just rely on a quick mouthful of Listerine before we start a session. The only thing that puts me off kissing is when the lad is a smoker; the smell and taste of it is a real passion killer for me.

I have found one or two Myanmar boys who have been more than able to fill my void in the past! 🤣

Lots of Only Fans clips find their way onto Twitter/X these days, including many Asian/Thai boys, and are of very variable quality and 'content'. Some are quite dark and poorly filmed, while others just show a boy having a wank, or which have a single phone/camera strategically placed in the room to record the show. But there are increasing numbers whose 'content' seems almost semi-professionally produced, or at least they are of surprisingly high quality, with roving camara work, more than one boy, etc. There is clearly a lot of competition out there for your subscription(s), but if you can get your quality and content right, there is probably much money to be made. Not that I lay claim to be any sort of authority on Only Fans sites whatsoever, but I do find myself dedicating far too much time doing 'research' on Twitter 😇🤣

Sweet Jeees' - are they all that size? 😅🥰

No, it is opposite Best Bar/Home Bar

My ideal agogo bar would be somewhere like Winner Boys (but more effectively managed and promoted than the current owner's health and resources allow). Why? Well it is quite a large enclosed bar in a (n all too) quiet and discrete area. Drink prices are reasonable (certainly in comparison to those of BoyzTown for example), the music not too loud, and the boys very 'friendly' (although not fully Eros friendly). Drinks and flirting and hands inside pants (theirs and/or yours), and almost every boy willing to accompany you back to your hotel to enjoy even-more-intimate moments. Recruiting has not been a strong point in recent years, but there are still quite a few boys who have been there a few years now who are always anxious to help you spend your baht. Even a new boy or two occasionally. It has been a fairly quiet bar of recent years, but in compensation such sparsity of customers keeps the boys keen, and ready to sit in a dark corner with you with only a large cushion to protect your respective modesty. Sadly its current viability once again hangs by a knife edge as low season deepens, but, who knows, it might survive another year, although the boss's health continues to visibly deteriorate. Boys normally dance in just their pants, but even those have been known to be shed by some alcohol-fueled boys late at night. Why does the lovely Nam spring to mind?! 😅 We have lost so much in Sunee Plaza over the years; I so very much miss the depravity of Eros and GoodBoys 😂. But as to Winner Boys, it is a case of 'use it or loose it'. Elsewhere there is no real comparison. Several of Charlie's bars in Jomtien Complex get close. I have put cushions to good use in Dodo/Gus Bar and M Bar last year , but they are the exceptions amidst a sea of over-dressed semi-respectability 😅.

If you are using the bum-guns to clean, then you need to check the water pressure first ! Hotel bum-guns usually seem set to blast a jet of water across the room, and you will need to turn them right down, using the tap at the base of the appliance, until you get a more gentle flow of water. Enables you to be kind to your bum while still ensuring a pleasent bottoming experience. 😁

I am now over 70 and overweight. The only people who might possibly want to have 'free' sex with me look like me and I am just not interested in that. So if I want a cute 20 year old who is willing, perhaps even keen, to have sex with me (top or bottom) these days, I am going to have to pay them. And that is a price I am happy to pay, even if it is only for a few weeks a year when I am back in the warmth of Thailand where the opportunities can seem limitless ! Paying for sex usually means that each gets what they want out of the encounter! 😅

For me at least, this is as good a Trip Report as I have ever seen on this forum. Great writing style, humerous and entertaining; sexy without being smutty. Happily following now .

In Boyztown, naked show boys appear in BBB, A Bomb and XBoys, but in Dream Boys, Toy Boys, Classic Boy Bar, etc there is usually not a cock in open sight. In Jomtien Complex, currently the nearest you get to public nudity is perhaps late night in M Bar where the towel dancers and other show boys can occasionally get a little careless (again with tips and drinks to encourage such carlessness haha) It is really only poor old Sunee Plaza where, in their two remaining agogos, Winner Boys and Nice Boys, boys can get fully naked on stage (suitably induced by tips and drinks of course). But long gone are the days when Sunee's many other bars had fully naked boys parading about

Closely trimmed front, fully shaved ass 😋😋

Check out the possibility of threesomes! I was surprised to find that one of my regulars had the hots for a couple of boys who also worked in his bar. He jumped at the chance to have an excuse to lure them into the room with us, one at a time. Worked quite well both times. I was happy to take the lead in directing interaction between the three of us, knowing full well what this regular lad of mine liked liked. He was super appreciative afterwards. I had started by asking my regular lad which of the other boys in his bar he fancied, and he was also asking me who else l liked. I had been seeing my lad over several trips and he knew that I was talking about experimenting with him rather than looking to replace him! 😅 Will only work in a minority of cases I suspect, but it has to be worth the ask!

It varies hugely for me. Shortest is the simple transactional sex that is often to be found when taking boys from, say Hornet. They arrive at the room knowing they have a job to do and once the job is done they are off. 30 mins to an hour perhaps? With my regulars things are usually more leisurely, relax and chat, a swim in the hotel pool perhaps, and quite often going to eat together afterwards. 2hrs + (often ++). And, depending on how 'busy' they are with other bookings, they might come out drinking and dancing with me well into the night, in which case I might top-up my normal 1.5k ST fee with another 500 baht before they actually go home (I am paying for their time as well as use of their bodies! hahaha) Then there are the 'new boys' that you meet in a bar, and drink and flirt with for a while before heading back to the room. They are new to you, and you are new to them. Each sizing up the potential, and desirability of the other for repeats. So some can prove just 'shag-and-go' one-offs, while others will linger and try and turn in a good performance in the hope that you will want to see them again.

Thats what I tell the boys about me! 🤣 If they want gold then go for old(ies)!

Yes Pikky Bar is probably the cheapest in BTown, but I think the boy drinks are more expensive than customer drinks (in Toy boys they are the same I think - equally expensive!). And while Pikky is a good place to sit out front and watch the world pass by, it also seems to be a retirement home for money boys past their prime! 🤣 Although one or two gems to be found

Sadly boy drinks in most of the bars in BoyzTown were currently mostly within that 240-300 baht range (September 2024). Four drinks in Toy Boys, for example, was in excess of 1,000 baht. Nice Boys in Sunee Plaza was also around 300 baht. Jomtien boy drinks were still in the 150 baht range. Notwithstanding those prices, if a boy comes to sit with me for a drink and makes an effort to flirt and engage with me, then I usually give them a tip (usually 100 baht) in addition when I leave; more if there was any hands-on activity between us. I can understand why so many now choose to take the risk and find their boys on the Apps., when you can actually spend more money looking for the right boy, than actually paying the lad for sex later!

My typical holiday is 21 nights, occasionally longer and I try and have a succession of room visitors, mostly as singles, but often as threesomes; maybe a couple of afternoon/evening short-times and usually a long-time. I try and 'perform' for each, but consider myself lucky if I can manage to 'cum' once a day. But I am getting older (71) and my energy levels are not what they once were. If I try and squeez in two ST a day, then I try and ensure that with one I will top and the other I will bottom. With my long-times I either just cuddle and sleep, or arrange a threesome where I can play until I tire and then watch the other two go at it until they finish. Not everyone's style I suspect, but it works for me and makes up for the months of lonely celibacy back home between trips. So as to 'days off', well I try to have none, but tiredness/tummy troubles ususally conspire to enforce a 'day off' maybe once a week. For those days I revert to paying a boy 'cash for cuddles' or even just nurse/house boy for the day. I do plan 'short days' when I am back in my room when the bars close about 1am, but I try also to include some 'party nights' when I take a few friends clubbing or to karaoke. But I am finding that I can physically (and financially) manage less and less of those.

I have a small group of 'regulars' that I try and see every trip. Lads that have given me great sex, and/or warm companionship and/or are fun to take out to the clubs etc. There are one or two key members of that group, others on the fringe that drop out or who are, for various reasons replaced. They are lads that I keep in loose contact with in the long months back home and who I am really looking forward to hooking-up with again on my next visit. Notwithstanding them, I also love visiting the bars and 'interviewing' new boys, looking for that spark that makes my tired old cock stir, getting them back to my room, and seeing how we get on together. Some prove passing ships, others I am keen to see again. Over many trips I have yet to find the one lad that can make me foresake all the others (old and new), although I get very close to, and get very fond of, one or two of my group. But I am only a holiday visitor and probably behave like one; perhaps if I was to spend longer living here, or even live here, then 'the one might' emerge?