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Sorry, my confusion. Are you discussing the Zing in the Jomtien Complex, or the other one?

I prefer a medium plus length, and most of the Thai boys I have met have been medium or medium plus, 5-6 ins But if I like a lad and feel attracted to him I will work with whatever they have got!

Soda Massage was 300 for I hour oil. I paid 1,500 tip for hand jobs (both of you) and oral (both of you), and I paid 2,000 for full sex, him being top or bottom depending on my mood. Always good at Soda, and although I stick to the same guy nowadays, there are usually 20-30 boys working there; mostly gay, but they usually have one or two straight guys.

Excellent post, I am now into my 70s and this mirrors my own experience back in the UK. Pattaya was my liberation, with the slow release of the closet door as my confidence grew. Even so the gay side to my nature is still only known to a few back in the UK. But back to the topic, I split my time in Pattaya between 'straight' boys and gays, and usually its a top v bottom distinction as well. Some of the tops arrive at my room already, as they strip off, visibly 'ready, willing and able' to perform the task in hand. Many are happy to kiss, suck, and, in rare instances, bottom as well. Some need to watch (or pretend to need to watch) hetro porn on their phone as they fuck you, some do not. Some perform with obvious enthusiasm and seem to be enjoying what they do. Some straight guys will be grabbing a towel and heading off to the shower seconds after they have cum and disengaged, while others will linger, cuddle, and try and get you off if you haven't done already. There are so many different scenarios depending on the individual boy. But as a consequence, some are invited back time after time, and holiday after holiday, while others are thanked, paid and forgotten. So I don't think there is a simple answer to the actual sexuality or bi-sexuality of Pattaya's straight boys, they each fit within a broad spectrum (as do we all as customers I suspect). My preference is for those that at least appear to enjoy their 'work'.

There are a few in the Big Cock shows in Boyztown who must also be in the 8 inch or 9 inch range. But 'size' also depends on thickness as well as length. Thing about these big cocks for me, is that they can be impressive to see and hold and stroke, but I wouldn't be wanting them anywhere near my ass! 😂

She was indeed a National Treasure, and I am sure I wasn't the only one quietly shedding a tear at this sad news 😢

Winner Boys inside the Plaza is very much open, as indeed is Nice Boys just on the edge. A couple of other bars inside the Plaza seem half open but without any sign (to me at least) of boys working in them. But WBs for the gay boys and NB for the straight boys are still worth a visit. Lots of new boys in both the other day when I looked in.

I knew this lad for several years before as a boy, this was the first time as a 'girl'. She arrived in t-shirt and shorts , and the whole experience was just as warm, wonderful, and passionate as it has been in the past! 'Same same' as I believe some people say! 🤣

Casting labels to one side, I have a very simple test - they either make my cock hard or they don't! If they do, and can 'hold my interest', they can have my time and my money!

Ordinarily I might agree with you these days. But a couple of the more fem boys I have know for a while have transitioned themselves in LBs now; no enhancements, so physically just the same as they always were but now with longer hair and regularly dress as ladies. Got one of them coming to my hotel this afternoon - we will see if the sex feel any different? 🤣

Exactly that, I find myself saying 'same same' and 'up to you' etc etc in conversation back home without thinking about it. I also find rudimentary and improvised sign language helpful. Thais often find it amusing, but at the sane time also get what I mean.

Having watched a number of Japanese female porn stars in action on film, it could prove a very noisy event! 🤣

He says they are mostly 'cock and bull (balls)' stories 😂

Given the countless thousands of massage shops across Thailand, with Thai as well as farang customers, this smacks of unrealistic public posturing by politicians rather than any credible attempt to change ingrained popular culture. Aside from the more 'obvious' extras massage shops, I have found that even the middle aged ladies working in the more 'respectable' massage shops will often offer to 'take care' of any visible 'problems' that 'pop-up' during the course a regular oil massage 🤣.

Dicks gave the appearance of having been a two-unit shop but never having been effectively joined up to make the maximum use of the potential space. Maybe the renovations are addressing that and that they will be able to cope with more customers? I visited many times in January, but several times found myself politely turned away as the place was already operating at full capacity.

Toyboys itself is also currently full of Chinese customers, male and female; something they have deliberately encouraged over the last few years. Its signage is part Chinese/part English, and, importantly, they have at least one Chinese speaking junior mamasans to welcome them inside and keep an eye on them inside in terms of drinks and choosing boy companions off the stage, etc. The consequence is that they are usually busy and bustling most nights, whereas elsewhere in BoyzTown the boys are reporting a dearth of customers. My boyfriend is based at Pikky Bar and frequently video calls me from his 'welcome' table out in the soi and showing me scenes of an empty soi. BoyzBoyzBoyz opposite him is busy he reports, 'but all Chinese', he says. His bar and others around him seem all but empty. My spy in Classic Boy Bar says they are also hurting inside through lack of customers. Toyboys seems to have achieved critical mass at the moment. A steady flow of customers encourages a stage-full of near naked boys who get drinks and offs, which in turn encourages the customers to come in, etc. etc. My little spies in the bar say that there is also a steady flow of 'new' boys to bolster and refresh the numbers on stage each night. And, ironically, drink prices at Toyboys and BoyzBoyzBoyz are eye-wateringly high compared to their neighbours.

A new bar opened yesterday in the Jomtien Complex on the main arm of the complex in part of what was Dolce Vita restaurant, and adjacent to the snicket there that leads towards the Zing Hotel. A young Thai boy boss, Golf pictured below. The map is not mine of course, but Golf annotated it for me to show where his new bar is located. New Boss, the young 'Golf'; a lovely lad who used to work in JoJo Bar. I got to know him quite well on my last holiday and I wish him every success! 😍

You tease 😂

My recollection in January was that it was 800 baht if you offed boy from outside, but only 500 baht inside if you bought a drink, although they were over 200 baht so not much in it! hahaha. My problem was that I had fallen totally in lust with one of the new lads and was offing him several nights at a time over several weeks, and that got expensive even without his 2k a night LT fees. 🤑

A date for your diaries, for those of you lucky enough to be in town (wish I was )

Those side tables have their advantages! The boys often line up on stage naked, but holding a large sheet in font of them to provide a teasing show when you face them as their erect cocks push out the sheet . But from the side you can usually see very clearly those same cocks in the gap between sheet and boys! Worked for me several times hahaha. Toy Boys is, for me at least, the No 1 agogo in BoyzTown and a happy mix of twinks and hunks. Usually a happy atmosphere in there with everyone having fun, customers and boys. The boys also like the bar as there is usually a steady stream of boys being borrowed for the night. I have had more offs from that bar than any other in Pattaya, including several that have become much loved 'regulars'. Just a shame that the drinks are so expensive haha. Also in BoyzTown, Classic Boy Bar (used to be Cupidol) is a twink heaven. Pikky Bar is a quieter open bar, several well know faces seem to 'retire' here from the other bars, but a great place to relax with (a much cheaper) drink and watch the world go by. Good to see you making it to Nice Boys in Sunee, it remains the last 'hands-on' bar for mutual HJs and BJs in Pattaya, and the boys are far from shy! hahaha.

Excellent, a welcome break from all the American politics threads! So the the first one is kinda appropriate from my side of the 'pond' haha.

A long standing fantasy of mine and a thread that surely screams for pictures!