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I don’t think gogo boys, waiters and mamasans would be eager to relocate to Pattaya neither.

By Alex Green For Mailonline British expats in the Thai beach resort of Pattaya have been caught up in another police crackdown after officers raided bars across the city. But instead of looking for drugs or illegal booze, officers were searching for dartboards - which they claimed were being used illegally by venues. The raids were concentrated around Soi 6, a street known for its brothels, bars and copious neon pink signs. One bewildered bar owner on the strip reported police demanding to see a 'dartboard license'. When they were unable to produce the appropriate documentation police confiscated their dartboards, reports Thai Visa. When they enquired as to how they could apply for a license they were told the license did not exist. The current entertainment license required by bars in Pattaya does not cover darts, staff were informed. This meant that bars had been illegally letting patrons play darts on their premises. The crackdown also resulted in the suspension of Pattaya’s popular amateur darts league - frequented by many of the city's expats. The event's organisers took up the matter with officials at Pattaya City Hall and contacted the Thailand Darts Association to seek clarification on the matter. This is not the first time the Thai government has clamped down on apparently innocuous pursuits enjoyed by expats. In 2016, police raided the Jomtien and Pattaya Bridge Club and arrested dozen elderly British nationals - including a former Honorary Consul. Over 50 police officers and military volunteers raided the club arresting 32 foreigners, and holding them until 3am. Despite not playing for money, Thai police say the bridge club broke the law by 'possessing more than 120 playing cards at one time'. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5353037/amp/Thai-police-raid-darts-club-crackdown-British-expats.html

Top Ten hard truths of living as an expat in Thailand By Tim Newton There will be bumps along the way between your visits to the beach, bar and immigration office (sometimes the bumps will be at the beach, bar and immigration office). Expat life is what you make it here in the Land of Smiles. Moaning about it never helps but accepting the bumps is part of the adventure. Here are our Top Ten Hard Truths for expats in Thailand. 1. VISAS ARE A PAIN IN THE NECK You have plenty of options but the options never quite fit into your line of work or expectations. But between the Non-B visa, Retirement visa, Education visa, Tourist visa, Elite visa and Smart visa, along with a few visa runs and trips to your local immigration office, you can usually fernangle a long-term stay in Thailand (yes, we know we used nick names for some of the visas). One way or the other you will need to keep your paperwork up to date as the fines for over-stays and visa problems can be quite aggressive and difficult to negotiate your way around these days. There’s plenty of good information on the net about visas but, despite what you read, interpretation may be different on the day you visit the local office and depending who you end up speaking too. At the end of the day, ask yourself how difficult is it for Thai citizens to live in your country… 2. YOU CALL IT CORRUPTION. THEY CALL IT BUSINESS. You are a guest in a foreign country. Thailand has a long history of independence and hasn’t been tainted with a lot of western influence. Unlike Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia. Philippines and India (just to list the countries around Thailand), there has never been western colonisation of the Kingdom. And most Thais will be delighted to remind you of this proud fact. The down-side is that your perception of western efficiencies and customs are going to be challenged whenever you want to do just about anything. There will be times when you will be asked, or invited, to put your hand in your pocket to get something happening – it could be a building project, a visa, getting your accounting done or getting a signature on a contract. If you are running a business in Thailand you’ll be invited more often than if you’re just living the single life here. Be shocked, be angry, be determined to point out your isses with corruption – it’s not going to change a system that has been in place for generations and unlikely to change much during your time in the Kingdom. Continued https://www-phuketgazette-net.amp.cloudflare.com/v/s/www.phuketgazette.net/lifestyle/top-ten-hard-truths-living-expat-thailand/amp?amp_js_v=1-4-71#

A few nights ago, I saw a garland of 500Baht notes, probably total of 4-5000 Baht presented to #88.

Welcome back! I really enjoyed reading your repeat encounter with the Jupiter boy since I think I know who that is. I guess it’s reasonable to expect 3,000B if you paid the amount the previous night.

When I book a holiday I always check Chinese national holidays. As well as Chinese New Year there is also one week long October national holiday in China, Hotels and flights are expensive in these periods. Personally, I found June is slower than September in terms of Bangkok gogo bar scene,

After more than 20+ visits to Jupiter, I finally witnessed the performance of Hula Hoop Boy Mr Boom. As expected he is very good but more surprisingly he is hot! He did a couple more regular shows with other boys and he also paraded on stage with the number tag on #9 so I assume he is available for the off. While performing French Affair’s “Sexy” show, Mr Boom received 1000 Baht tip and so did #43. I have already passed 100 B tip to mamasan to give it to Mr Boom just after hula hoop performance so when I saw 1000B tip, I felt cheap haha.

I have been to both Lebua sky bar and Banyan Trees Moon bar just for drinking, no dining. I took a couple of Tawan boys with me and they were busy taking selfies than drinking.lol While the view from Lebua is truely spectacular the place is so crowded with many tourists I much preferred the experience at Banyan Tree’s moon bar. As with all those 5 star hotel bars, they had ‘no shorts’ dress code and one of boys had to wear a black loose long trousers provided by the hotel. lol PS I just opened attached article of the 5 best roof top bars, I’ve also been to Marriot’s Octave- very casual, no dress code and Cloud 47 which was conveniently located on Silom Road I believe is now closed permanently.

I asked him about the incident last night. I told him that I was shocked to see his face on sns and You tube video. He said it was popular. I assumed he has meant it was seen by many people. He said he was caught by police near Thaniya around 7 am after all night drinking. He had to pay 8,000 Baht fine. Well I thought is that all? Last night he was still wearing gold necklace & blacelet seen on the video so clearly didn’t need to sacrifice to the police. He said he stopped drinking but the Sunday was exception because of the boss’ party. excuses excuses I heard that one before.

There was a big office party at Jupiter on Sunday. Apparently the occasion was for the owner’s birthday. The party started around12:00 with the boss’s speech presumably thanking all the staff for hard work etc?and there were some free food. Normally boys leave quickly after the show but most of them stayed around drinking & dancing with customers on stage. There was one Tawan boy also joined the party presumably called by his Jupiter friend. They also had prize draw going on and the lady boss was picking a paper with staff’s name on from a big jar announcing the winners from all mamasans waiters gogoboys, all the winners were met with big applauses. There were more than 20 prizes from a envelope containing a few hundred baht to the top prize of a big money. The top prize was a traditional lei a garland made out of 1000 Baht notes,total of 10,000 Baht. And it won by a very friendly small waiter.

Once at Jupiter, mamasan was passing a big bag of rubber bands to #69 I asked what’s that for and #69 told me that is for keeping the erection. So probably the simple rubber band then.

Spoon, This new show dancer is an English speaking black guy, clearly a proper professional dancer who seems to have a ballet dance training background as he does some classical dance routines. Since he speaks to audience in English / Chinese I suspect he used to work in China doing club shows. You really must see him doing a show in a beautiful black leather fetish gear head to toe complete with strip leather head mask. He has a big muscular supple dancers body, not a body builders and his dance routine is graceful, beautiful and yet scary with SM gear on. Oh the way he shakes his buttocks! Its fantastic! Apprently he started Jupiter appearances just a few days ago. I don’t how long he is going to stay with them but I am glad I watched his jaw dropping show. Jupiter did a excellent job hiring him. Well done!

Oh my god! I’ve never seen white notes (1000Baht note)flying around the stage in gogo bars like in Jupiter last night. Drink price back to 300B and as I wrote on the other thread boys get 150B which I think it’s quite generous compare to other bars. Now they seemed to abandoned the fashion show idea boys are wearing dark blue shorts and dark blue tank top a bit like in old days of Jupiter2002 where they used to wear white shorts. 60% of them shirtless. The bar was full and there seemed a couple of serious tippers last night. I have seen a 1000B note given to the boys on stage not necessarily for the offed boy of the night a few times in Jupiter. But the last night was something else. I saw a boy got 2000 Baht while parading on stage from one person and another person tipped 1000 B like Choristers auction’s bidding war. For my eyes the boy was not particularly cute or have a good body. Many others were tipped while parading on stage too. Even #27 was getting a tip twice. For me, the best looking boy in Jupiter is #56 although his fashion is a bit suspect. He seemed like studded shoes and a sweater with wings. Last night he was wearing silver glittery shoes with gold necklace and bracelet. He is from Issan. There was this big muscular black? guy who seemed to be a trained dancer did a couple of solo shows last night. Crowd really loved watching his buttocks shaking dance, you know those YouTube black girls shaking ass video? On the first act he appeared dressed all in white, wearing white coat and white tights. Second act he appeared in black fetish kink leather gear and it really looked good on his big muscular body. Audiences went wild. Watching his shows alone is well worth 300B.

Jupiter boys get 150B, which is 50% of 300B drink charge. I have this confirmed with a boy and mamasan Ti. As far as I know Tawan boy get 50B, Dreamboy boy 100B.

‘Normal’ Thai girls would not go out with gogo boys. They are insanely jealous and need 24 hours attention. That is why boys often have a girlfriend of the similar background,likeThaniya bar girls. Bar girls tolerate boys with farang gay customers but would hate boy go with a female customer. Perhaps they consider the real threat. Once I saw a Dreamboy boy with an Asian female customer in a Suriwong cafe, a Thai bar girl rushed in and started hitting the poor guy.

Ahhh. Independent used a wrong photo. Here is their famous crab omelette priced 800 Baht.

“how the junta threatens the lives of sex workers” https://prachatai.com/english/node/7540

On the other hand, Jupiter2018 is hiring more and more Cambodians and Vietnamese. I wonder if it’s anything to do with the fact that owner’s husband is Thai policeman.

Shoes seem to be a popular choice for customers’ gift to the boys.In my November trip, Jupiter boy #69 showed me his new Adidas shoes, gift from his customer and asked me if I knew the price. I estimated 4000 baht when I told him that he looked visibly satisfied. lol

I am enjoying your trip report and particularly love this part.You’ve described the boyfriend experience with the Jupiter boy very well. We are privileged to know your inner thoughts and feeling of that time as if we were you actually standing in the same hotel room with the boy. PS I am surprised to read the boy actually walked for 20 min. without complaining.

Inspire Pattaya E-Magazine / What’s On Pattaya Living away from home and especially in Thailand in places like Pattaya can be moments of pure bliss, you are living the dream, right? But is everyone really living this dream life and are there red flag warning signs that you are better off jumping on a plane and getting back home? This vlog playfully but with an air of seriousness looks at the warning signs that perhaps you are better off back home than in Pattaya. We are have different standards and acceptable living conditions, but if you have succumbed to a 3k baht a month studio with no aircon and a cold, broken shower or even possibly a large barrel you need to fill with water. You know the type, studios in the same block as the workers of Soi Baukhao, then this is sign number 1. Your not living the dream, go home. Sign number 2. When you complain on one of the many online food groups when a breakfast costing 99 baht and that it is too expensive or the tea is not tetleys. Perhaps a member of staff didn’t courtesy for you too? Remember you do have the choice to buy a more expensive breakfast, but perhaps you are watching your sedang a little more than you should. I even see one guy complain to a restaurant that his curry serving was not big enough – it was a 149 baht meal deal that came with naan, rice and half a pint of beer. What does the guy want? Drinking can often cross the line in Pattaya and become a big problem for some guys here. I knew one guy that said he got drunk not just everyday but twice a day, once in the morning and once in the afternoon after he woke from his lunch time nap. If you are drinking everyday and before 5pm, Pattaya may be about to consume you and spit you out. Be warned, it could be time to leave. Another big sign, if you have stopped drinking in a beer bar and now drink outside a 7-11 or a Thai shop as it’s cheaper; this too is a little alarming. That’s my sign number 3. Number 4: If you have no money. I am sure there are many guys here that would struggle to even get a flight home anyway. They will live here with no health insurance and be the wrong side of 60 years old. It is a matter of time before something bad happens. And finally, you have had or are having a bad experience with your Thai partner. Maybe they have taken all you have got and you are feeling depressed, alone and skint – but seem to think another teelak is still out there for you. Go home before you fall off a balcony. To many this list will read as a bit of light hearted fun but I have lived in Pattaya for over ten years and sadly seen expats die far too young from over drinking, I have seen them not wanting to give up on Pattaya even with no money – and their life is worse than if they were just to get on a plane and go home. Pattaya is a fantastic place but too many people try and live the dream without the means to even pay for one good meal a day. http://www.inspirepattaya.com/pattaya/5-signs-look-go-home-leave-pattaya/

Maybe in Pattaya and with twinks. I don’t want to be a killjoy but cannot see the boys I usually take for night out, in Bangkok muscular guys doing underwater with fellow bar boys with reward of 500B. They would consider it just like a short time job unless you know the boys very well and friend with them.

Hi GoldMember, Have a nice NEW YEAR holiday in Bangkok! I am glad to know you got measurement tape ready.

‘What are factors that determine your choices?’ • As with previous poster, I ask my LT off if he wants to go out drinking&dancing. If he says yes I ‘d let him choose drinking buddies and venues. I like watching boys in more natural environments out of bars interacting each other enjoying themselves. I think if you pick drinking buddies according to your taste it may not work since there are many factions and power battles inside the bar, your LT off and your pick of the drinking buddies could be enemies. Just like Vinapu’s 3P rules “How to pick a third boy- let your boy choose his favourite.’ Sometimes you’d be surprised to see a boy who looks unfriendly, no smile on stage is in fact very chatty and fun or vice versa. ‘How many boys?’ • Usually 3-5 boys. Ideally three boys but difficult to say no if pleaded. Which bars do you take them to? • Boys take me so I really don’t know the names but I think I went to Tawandang where they play live music in November. ‘What drinks do you order’ • I don’t order. I let them order usually JW black label. ‘what do you chat about?’ •I don’t really initiate conversations just watching boys drinking, dancing. Chatty boys talk about their recent trip overseas Japan, China with customer showing photo of various places and customer. haha ‘How long is the drinking session?’ •1-3 hours usually we are the first to leave. Rest of boys move on to another bar until early morning. ‘how much do you tip the boys?’ • 1000-2000, but mostly 1000 Baht. There was this funny episode a few months back. I took a couple of muscular boys to the club. The model guy on stage of the club was shirtless but his abs aren’t great as my companions. One of the boys suggested that they should take off their shirt and show off as they are better than the boy on the stage. haha PS Why do Thais clink glasses every 10 seconds?

I usually tip even for drinking only session on top of off fee to the bar. The trouble with taking boys out from the bar for drinking is that even you took a couple of boys from the bar, the news spread quickly as boys take selfies and send the photo to bar friends that they are drinking in the so so bar, their friends come and join the drinking party too. In my November trip I ended up with 8 gogo boys, two waiters, 3 of their friends in the end. Obviously I didn’t pay tip for the boys that joined later voluntarily.