jason1975

If I am in Bangkok for a week or more, I usually buy a bottle of duty free exotic Japanese whisky from airport. When guests come to my room, we usually have a drink on the rocks.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge about Bacardi. I want to meet you one day in Bangkok and watch you drink Bacardi and then you declare whether it''s 100% original or diluted!

That's informative indeed. I will change my conclusion to the guys in bars can hold their drink much better than waiters!

I have wondered about that as well. There were two ocassions in two different bars (not Jupiter) when I ordered Johnnie Walker but the guys who drank with me (we finished the bottle) didn't seem drunk! I myself wasn't drunk as I deliberately didn't drink that much. But I would say the drinks sold at Midnight bar are definitely authentic because I often see the waiters drunk after they spent the night drinking with customers!

Me too. Except for the occasional white lie.

I agree. The guys pay special attention and take care of their customers. Sometimes I feel embarrassed by all the fuss. But nevertheless it is a nice feeling.

Sky bar is now called h.i.m.

Well-thought of and practical plan. Spreading the bottle over 2 visits is a good excuse to visit Jupiter again! During my visit with forum members to Jupiter, mamasan always ask us if we want a bottle. There were usually 4 of us. Unfortunately most don't drink alcohol so we declined ordering a bottle and were content with our individual drinks.

I remember the mamasan showing me the seal on the bottle of Johnnie Walker at Jupiter when I ordered a bottle. Very classy gesture to let customers see the seal and watch it opened, thus certifying it's authentic.

That's good to know! Jupiter gets +1 from me!

No pressure to pay for boy drinks? Which bar is that? I always get asked to buy boy drinks. The guys tell me "bar policy".

You are correct that the bottle makes sense if it is a group of customers. Of course, if it is a wealthy customer, he can easily order a bottle and surround himself with many guys. Paying boy drinks is not a problem for him. Such customers typically spend more than 10k baht per visit. Regarding boy drinks, once the guy has finished his drink, the bar would want him to go back up on stage. But if there is a bottle, he can continue staying to drink with customer. This is why sometimes I get a bottle and be with my favourite guys the whole night.

Alternative Off fee for 2 guys = 2 x 500 = 1000 Short time tip = 2 x 2000 = 4000 Beer, drinks from 7 Eleven = 500 Total = 1000 + 4000 + 500 = 5500 baht

4000 for bottle and mixers 400 for boy drink for guy 3 guys = 3 x 400 = 1200 Tips for 3 guys = 3 x 100 = 300 Total = 4000 + 1200 + 300 = 5500 baht

To answer your question, the guys don't earn anything from the bottle. You buy them a boy drink so that they earn at least 100 baht. Whether to tip or not is up to customer. There is no such thing as reasonable number of guys. As long as you pay for their boy drinks, you can invite as many guys as you want!

Don't forget about the tips to the guys!

I remember years ago, bars only charge you for the bottle (e.g. 4000 baht) and there is no need to buy the guys a boy drink. But now, it seems at most bars (I know this is the case at Freshboy, Good Boy and Dreamboy because I got a bottle in these venues in past one year or so but I haven't done so at Jupiter for several years so it might be different at Jupiter), a boy drink needs to be bought if inviting a guy to drink with customer. Unless it is mamasan who invites guys to drink with customer unsolicited (and the reason is to finish the bottle quickly so that customer order another bottle). In that case, no boy drink is required to be bought. But then, customer has no say in choice of guy drinking with him! Based on cost analysis, I feel it is more worthwhile to off the guys you like and take them back to room to drink together (with bottle of whisky bought from supermarket or 7 Eleven). But you have to negotiate and agree on tips in advance.

Happy Birthday, Cam!

I asked ChatGPT "How many pieces of currency notes will fill up a height of 2 cm?" The answer "Approximately 200 currency notes will make a stack 2 cm high, assuming each note is about 0.1 mm thick. 20 mm ÷ 0.1 mm = 200 notes The actual number varies with the currency, wear, folds, and how tightly the notes are pressed together."

I did meet esteemed forum member again before I left Bangkok and it was over breakfast inside cosy Raya Hotel breakfast room. I found out that in the end, he didn't sleep alone last night! I shall leave him to recount the details in his trip report. I was glad to come to Bangkok for weekend trip. Happy to meet two forum members and of course I spent time with my guy. Two months of work then two weeks holiday in mid December till Christmas. I am wondering what Christmas gift to get for my guy. Our first time Christmas together. I have two months to plan and decide.

Ah! You seemed to enjoy it so I didn't consider it elder abuse. I thought you might refer to the bag that I got you to carry!

Yes I agree. It is not as loud as before.

My Vietnamese guy also does not have a positive impression of Thai people. I believe it's because he had been mistreated many times. He came to work in Bangkok when he was just 16 years old with his mother. He did odd jobs such as cleaning. His mother went back to Vietnam and he stayed on in Bangkok to work. He told me that he cried when he missed Vietnamese Tet celebration when he was alone on his own in Bangkok. He worked many different jobs - cook, barber, deliveryman - before he worked in bar at Soi Twilight. My guy is the youngest of 3 and after his two older sisters got married, he had to provide for his parents and grandparents.

After the end of the show, we left Jupiter. On our way out of soi 4, I saw PJ walking in. He was joining Poppy to sing together at Jupiter from midnight till 1am, entertaining customers who stayed after the show and who were drinking with models. I tipped my two favourite twinky Jupiter waiters when I left. The Vietnamese waiter cheekily asked me to take him to drink beer next time after he ended work. I said yes sure. My guy rolled his eyes at me. Our group went to Foodland for supper and I ordered my favourite ham and cheese sandwich. My guy helped himself to some of the French fries. Forum members and I had a great time chatting now that we could hear each other clearly. I was envious that the two of them would still be in Bangkok for the next 5 days. I was only here for weekend and would be checking out of Raya on Sunday mid-morning. I said my goodbye to forum members and hope to meet for longer time next year. ⁹

As for why forum members and I were given coveted front row seats, it was thanks to esteemed forum member who offed Jupiter models in the past. One of them invited himself to a seat next to esteemed forum member and they chatted intimately. But being first night in Bangkok after an unusually ardous journey (consisting of flight delay and luggage which never arrived), esteemed forum member declined to off enthusiatic model. He would likely return on another night when more ready to off and enjoy the Jupiter model.