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Apologies if this is the wrong forum to ask, or if it's inappropriate to ask it anywhere on Gay Guides. What happened to Men4Men (that specialized in the USA)?

Apparently this is no longer/always so. I emailed her. Her rate without brkfst was slightly higher then Agoda's with brkfst. )-:

Is this a geography thing? 3 of the 4 r clustered together... And why isnt it more prevalent in the heart of silom (and pattaya)?

It would b well to remember that farangs can also dislike losing face, and that there need not b a 3rd party present in order to loose face. I loose face when two Thais (for example - mamasan and boy) speak about me, in my presence, in an obviously denigrating manner. Whenever a local takes advantage of a farang's cluelessness (not to mention MBs exploiting un-assertive 1st timers) - face is lost. It's VERY important for us to behave in a respectful and culture-sensitive manner toward Thais, both because we r guests and because we hold the financial upper hand. It should b equally important vice versa, and many times it isn't.

I turned my shame into action, looked it up, was dutifully impressed by their straightforwardness. Any other parlours like this in bkk or pattaya?

If memory serves - I had 3 4-hands sessions, the best at Arthur&Paul in Phnom Penn. There was a designated leader (the more experienced), and #2 following his lead. They worked both sides, sometimes symetrically, sometimes intentionally not. It was professional coreography, even in the way they first teased and then fit their dicks into both palms. Continued so after the turn over, coordinating the therapeutic and sensual aspects. It ended in me sucking the bigger dick, while being sucked by #2.

Checked the rates for last week of november: Zing - 30 Venue - 40 Agate - 50 Poseidon - 80 East Suites - no availabilities! I've always stayed at agate, despite the brkfst. Any reason to change? Do others have any tempting features? Why is zing's rate so low, and poseidon's so high? Why is east so popular (or is it so small)?

Why do we read here so little about them? Do the guys prefer not to do hanky panky when a fellow Thai is present? Or do most members here not like it ?

Should I b ashamed of never hearing the name Kmann? Do they really have an explicit sexual menu?

Thank u ENCHANTED for the thoughtful answer.

Thank u, one and all, for enlightening me (-:

Thank you (-:

NL, ur detailed description of the hoped-for session left out a part (not only) I cherish: the masseur fitting his dick into my palm while I lay on the stomach. It works also when he is still in shorts; much better after he has removed them...

What's the logic of owners who prohibit? Why do they care?

.....of various establishments. Where/how can I see it? Isnt it possible to pin it?

For me this misses almost the whole point. Furthermore, even in a case of combining both, we're all used to 1st theraputic and then sex. Why? The best massage I have ever had was in Laos: the guy combined the two from the beginning; I climaxed about 40 minutes into the session; and he continued the massage for 20 minutes - relaxing me after the 'exertion' and allowing me to savour a sensual afterglow. (-: I have never succeeded in reenacting that; masseurs seem to not undrstnd the concept. )-:

Vinapu, I'm curious. Care to explain the logic?

Anyone ever 'offed' staff at any silom hotel?

PS Notwithstanding brazil specifically, now is NOT the time - either to seek permission to live in the USA or to move there.

Doing my Due Diligence about hotels was very difficult: search for hotels brings up 17,000 results; going back thru recent thread titles, brings up almost only the Raya. I've always stayed at Raya, but I'd like to upgrade. I'd be grateful for your input, experienced and expert members. I found 9 worthy hotels in the vicinity, most of them mentioned in the forum. According to rates for 1st week of Nov, thEy can be grouped as following: Raya, siam heritage, quarter, ibis, siam hotel - $65-75 per night; montien, voco - $120-140; meridien, crowne - $190. It's a bit startling: basic, double, triple; nothing inbetween. Questions: 1. Have I missed additional candidates? 2. In each group, which one is most recommended? 3. Where's the best brkfst? 4. Any hotel with an added touch? free jacuzzi, special services, staff to be offed... (-: PLEASE deluge me with your wisdom. Thx

But Manny' guys r for pay, and these guys r all for free....

I wish I knew that when I visited there. Does that mean a 5 minutes HJ, or beyond?

I'm planning 4 weeks in november, with hops to vietnam and cambodia. Are there any weeks or dates, during which it would be better to either be or not be in bkk or pattaya? Local / touristic events? Constraints? Annoyances? Club enticements? Thx (-:

BKK, I salute u for the upteenth time u share ur knowledge in such a detailed and welcoming manner!

Thx Did the guys maybe tell u if it's easy to meet also in hotels? Any contact numbers to ask about this?