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Thx for trying to help, guys; perhaps I wasnt clear. Vinapu: of course there r "ancients" on grindr, but they r there for young locals rather than 40ish caucasians. Ditto Reader and Heaven sauna. Or m I wrong? Omega, could u pls b more specific regarding bars on soi 4?

Hi Guys, I have a gay friend, 40 yo, caucasian, good looking, into mature of 60+. He'll visit Bangkok and Phuket for other reasons, but would naturally like to also have some fun. It's not his 1st time. He knows that the oldies r there for the young locals. In the past, the apps didnt help much either. Nevertheless, we're wondering whether anyone here might offer some useful tips. If not for sex itself, r there in Bangkok any gay bars clubs (not gogo), where he might just enjoy the vibe? Guess in Phuket there's only Zag...

His name is Johnny. Whatsapp: +855 89 959 192 We drove 2 days from PP to SR, and later a few local drives. Say hi to him from Roni, and pls let me know how it's working out.

Could u or anyone elaborate on puerto vallarta?

I dont rmmbr the nmbrs now; I do rmmbr that I had 4 offers and he was the best (rcmndd by mmbrs in TripAdvisor). Of course now I rcmnd him bcs I was very satisfied with him. A driver+. He isnt a certified guide. Which of course makes Johnny less expensive.

I think most hotels r ok. I didnt have any prblms, but then - I chcked in advance.

Kuddos Connor for investing in such a detailed useful post! All the more so - typed on a phone...

2000 pesos = 120 dollars Is that close to "free"? What m I missing?

If anyone needs an english-speaking driver in SR, PP and/or btw them - I can highly recommend the one I hired last year.

Vinapu, is this Kuay-dick massage just an obvious joke name, or some kind of magic treatment with a dick?

Farang, the answer to ur question is simple and factual - statistics: Most young guys prefer young guys. The fact that there is a minority that prefers otherwise, and that in many non-white countries this minority is bigger, doesnt change the universal natural tendency.

Thx for correcting my impression. Since lights r out, I thought evetything was rather static. The only interactive scene I've witnessed is BBB big cock dancers walking around patrons (full lights) for a grope and a tip.

Pauleiro, thx for a GREAT post. 6 patrons charged at 2 models? Do these 2 hotties really have to withstand the onslaught of 6 horny probably-old men all groping for a piece of them??

Couldnt undrstnd from the threads: is it focused on youngsters, or will a 66 yo have any action?

U r right FR; didnt think about it. Sorry )-:

Thx So its basically like the ignoring option u offered. I m all for it. Its high time we organize to ignore or ostracize the few members here, who again and again prefer posting judgemental personal attacks.

Not to continue this topic, just to widen my undrstndng of english: Whats the difference btw banning and ostracism ?

There is NO such tendency!!! After reader wrote about "low regard" toward MBs, I wrote that there is low regard only toward scammers. This does NOT mean that MBs = scammers.

Readet, u found bad intentions where there r none. I didnt read any "low regard" in previous comments by others. Also, I didnt write that all the guys r to b treated as "would b scammers", but rather that it's legitimate to hold only scammers in low regard. There r a few members here, I m NOT imputing u r one of them, who like to adopt a "holier than thou" preaching attitude. It naturally creats antagonisn leading to personal attacks, and of course distrupts fruitful debate.

Reader, why have u detected disregard? I have heard or read low regard only in the context of scams. Criticizing their tendency to ask for non-transactional money is quite legitimate.

Vinapu, what would u say to approaching the board with a request to ban anyone who starts a personal attack?

Is the music in JC still way TOO LOUD ? The bar owners might b in for the hobby, but what r the guys doing? How do they survive?

I recently received a message from one of the Jomtien bar guys I had twice offed back in jan, asking for money. He had sent one also in feb, as I think we agree - many of them do almost automatically. I twice declined. This time he wrote he had no patrons for 3 months. Does anyone know if J had indeed fallen on bad times? Seasonal or exceptional? Does this examplify the famous result of crying "wolf" too often?

So Vinapu, ur talent is inherited?

Vinapu, I didnt claim there r no hungry people. There r too many of them; in fact, their number is increasing again. Hundreds of millions. As I've noted twice before, on threads dealing with rates: I dont haggle with MBs; I give them what they ask, and if a tip is warranted - it's relatively generous. That's my contribution to the redistribution of wealth btw the 1st world and the 3rd. Also regarding non-sex service people.