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I hope they tipped u well

Vinapu, this is not the case of legit use of others/famous fotos, with or without disclaimers. It's a case of using a PROFILE and fotos of one known provider by another guy.

I took the foto today, when preparing the post. At the time, it was 208 METERS.

Tee has an eye-catching red shirt grndr profile. He initiated communication with two great body-face pics, and later followed with a convincing dick. He offered 1000 instead of the 1500, which is a red flag. However, b4 we met I asked B about him (and others). He had met Tee, authenticated the pics, and said I'd enjoy him. We set a date; he didnt show up, or rspnd to my ??; and hours later surfaced with a lame excuse in lieu of an apology. Same thing happened the 2nd time; another red flag (ot two). When finally he showed up (NO english), he didnt look like Tee's pics, but rather shorter and darker. I thought maybe that was due to his day-lighted pics, and anyway - he was vetted by B..... However, 3 minutes into the session it was obvious he had no clue. I said "this isnt working" and told him politely to leave. He seemed neither disturbed nor surprised. I m angry at myself that I gave him 200 b. He had the temerity to ask more for taxi! It was only later while discussing this with B, we came up with a possible explanation that maybe Tee - no longer intrstd in his prfl - had subcontrated it. I've had my share of guys not looking at all like their purported fotos. Nvr had a such a case with fotos authenticated by a credible source. Anyway, be forewarned against prfls containing the fotos below.

After touring Walking St for the 1st time, I went by myself on a 2nd clubs round, Sunday 21:30-22:30. Didnt visit BBB, bcs had already seen the show, and wanted to head to J bars. 4 clubs - I peeked for a mmnt and decided not to sit. Winner: 1 boy with cstmr, 1 on stage. No one appeared when the bell rang. Toy boys: no cstmrd, 8 boys, none for me. A bomb: 3 boys, 3 cstmrs, no interaction. X boys: 3 boys, 1 cstmr. Now for the two clubs I did stop at. Nice Boys: 11 boys same as in previously reported visit. Unlike empty then, there were 2 cstmrs when I arrived, and one joined after me. Each of us took a corner seat. C1 was busy wnkng a boy, who was watching straight porn on his fone. Later a 2nd boy wld b called to the other side, so C1 was wnkng on each side. I think one of the boys had the least tiny dick in the club, bcs its head was showing above the wnkng palm. C2 was sitting with the only attractive boy. I think he started wnkng him only after he noticed that's what I was doing. C3 was apparently well known to the boys. Every cpl of mnts he wld jesture one over; the boy wld stand in front of him and lower his panties; C3 wld play with his package, smack his butt playfully, and send him back with a 50 b tip. I didnt find anyone to my taste, but wanted to exprmnt, so I called over the twink most vigorously wnkng beneath his panties. He sat by me, ordered a drink, I jestured to lower his pants, and out came the tiniest dick I have ever seen. Furthermore, it had 3 inserted round beads which I really dont like. Nevertheless I started wnkng, and on came the porn but the boy cldnt get it hard. He put his hand on my thigh, I moved it to my groin, but he wasnt very good at that either. I then gradually unzipped, guided his hand a bit, and then whipped mine out. The boy said "big", continued watching porn & wnkng me, and not getting hard. After three more mnts I discharged him with 150 b. By then the attractive boy had rtrnd to the stage from C2, so I beckoned him over. We went through the same routine, this time he had no beads and also got hard. I gave him 250 b, and left. The whole visit lasted 10 mnts. While I m glad to have experienced such public promiscuity for the first time, I wont b back to a place with such tiny palm-covered dicks and (to me) unappealing boys. Dream boys: 10 boys on the stage; jeans, no shirts; nmbr tags; 3 of them sort of nice. A group of 3 cstmrs left as I entered. The boys made dancing moves on stage, and the whole atmosphere was btr than in all other clubs. I ordered a drink; and the stern-looking mamasan sat by me, again and again jesturing at the stage. I asked about the hot boy #45 we had met 4 nights ago, but she didnt rspnd. Fortunately, a cpl of mnts later a group of two pairs (man woman) entered, and then a pair of men. The mamasan jestured to the boys to direct their attention to them. I then decided to bypass bar mangement: instead of asking boys over for a drink, I approached the stage and shoved a 100 b bills into the jeans of the 3 nice ones. The 1st seemed a bit srprsd. I thnkd them all and left, on my way to livelier Jomtien.

Thank u Forrestreid; I hope u and others do the same. (-: Mavica, the foto forum u referred to isnt about rcmndng providers. Most of the pics there r nudes of porn stars or of un-met providers.

Yes, Tob is also on grndr, but I was told that he tends to switch profiles there.

I believe one of the functions of this platform is to exchange info about providers, incldng pics and cntcts. While practicing this in the Latin America forum, I was vigorously challenged. I explained that when providers explicitly permit posting their info, it works for the benefit of both sides. All of us wld prfr to hire someone who has already been vetted. [Readers already know that I m into mscln.] So here goes. Pop XL solicited me on grndr on my 1st evng there. He isnt XL per se; he might b in Thai terms. Sent good pics. Polite chat and to the point. Answrd "yes" to all my questions. Showed up on time. Looked like his fotos. Btr than avrg english. Went along with evrythng I wanted. Asked for and received 1500 b. He msg-ed me each day later, trying to meet again, but I prfrd being "butterfly" (a local term B taught me). U can find him thru his nick on grindr. Tob was rcmndd by B, who also forwarded to me his whatsapp nmbr. He works at Foxy Smile Massage, 30 mtrs from Agate hotel where I stayed. He asked for 2000; I wrote "too much, everyone else is 1500"; he agreed. For me he is a true eye candy; toned, smooth, handsome. His pic below is the first, tatoo on left shoulder. This was my first massage in Thailand; unlike Cambodia no real therapeutic part at all. Tob began immediatelly with oil-erotic. Within 4 minutes I felt his banana-shaped hard-on, which apparently means he isnt straight & is into mature, and or a true professional. He is very much an erotic pro; very accomodating; left me more than satisfied; and afterwards texted me a sweet thanku. U can find him at the parlor, or thru his Hornet ID: @1hjqyh Big17cm on grndr: Dara isnt really 17 cm, but almost there. Biggest dick I've seen these 3 weeks. He works at Home Bar, and solicited me with the standard sums (1500 st, 2500 lt). Was honest to admit that he doesnt like to suck, and not so good at it. When I voiced my rsrvation about this, he answrd: "I might do well to get you hooked with me", which got me hooked to him... (-: When he showed up he looked like his 4 fotos below. He first brushed his teeth very thoroughly; I did likewise. Then followed him into the shower, where he seemed srprsd that I soaped and rinsed him (love to do that). Then said it was 1st time client does this. I asked if it bothers him; he said "no, it's sweet"... (-: Taught him how to reciprocate; we went into full wet oral mode; dried each other; and off to bed, where he really lived up to his promise to "do well". His almost-17 also felt VERY well. We had a rather long chat. His limited English was the best among providers during this trip. We r used to them telling us about their financial difficulties, for ulterior motives. I was therefor srprsd to hear that in 8 months work in J since he came from Cmbdia, he had saved $1000. Sounds astounding to me, but I see no reason for him to lie about this. We parted after 2 hours; I paid him 2500. Dara is the only guy I met twice during this trip. 2nd time was btr than 1st. He dozed off after the pillow talk, with my dick in his hand. Took a while to extract it without walking him up. It was during that talk that I asked him about publishing his details-fotos; he enthusiastically approved. U can find him at Home Bar or thru his grndr nick. PS - 1st time: A handsome taxi driver texted me from BKK that he wants to come especially to Pattaya just to meet me. Persisted even after I told him I'll b leaving shortly with no chance of dlvpng anything. Said that wasnt his intent; just wanted to meet and sex. I let him down gently, not wanting the rspnsblty of a man wasting 3 hours drvng just to meet me.

U can identify the boy in one of the pics I attached. Almost certain the same party. Pity we didnt meet.

I now im Patong-Phuket, and will post in a cpl of days about a bar WITH dancing here.

Act I: On our 1st bar night, B said that in Double Shot at 22:00 the boys take their shirts off, so of course we headed there. Nude chests inject erotica into the sex-lessness atmosphere I mentioned in my previous rprt, and indeed it was rewarding to eye-candy them. I like the lean-athletic type. Most of them were nice to ogle at, and I wanted to invite a boy to sit and drink, but all of them were a bit...full, or with just a tiny belly. All of them that is, until I dtctd my dream guy at a corner: taller and browner then the others, perfect flat chest, joyful smile. Alas, he was sitting with another boy at a table with two patrons. Unashamedly I stared as that man did everything I wanted to do. He sat the boy on his lap facing outward, stroked his chest, kissed his back, pinched his nipples, etc. The boy didnt reciprocate, but seemed fine with it. Since there were no signs the patron was going to leave, and since no other alluring boy appeared, after about 30 mnts we left. Not before I asked for the boy's name - Jinno. B is well aquainted with one of the bars' managers, who speaks prfct English. We asked him why dont the rest of the bars emulate this business enhancing shirtlessness idea. He explained that Thai ethics prohibit such copycatting competition. Our loss )-: Act II: The next night I returned alone. Didnt see shirtless Jinno, so I asked where he was. Turned out he way at the back with a cstmr. The boy I asked was the same smiley one who gave me Jinno's name the night before. He jestured he was going to call him; I said 'but he is with cstmr"; smiley wasnt deterred; and for some reason Jinno deserted that guy for me. We sat together for almost an hour, chatting via ggl about the usual stuff. He was rather assertive friendly-like, at one point - without asking permission - downloading Line on my phone and then establishing contact from his. Here is one not hesitant about marketing.... I enjoyed getting up close and prsnl with him just like I had fantasized, and he sometimes put his arms around me or gave a hug or poorly imitated massage movements. Smiley came by a couple of times, one time playfully touching Jinno's groin. I did the same; nothing interesting there. At no time did he even hint at offing, and I didnt try. Had a feeling he's better at being touched than sexed. Jinno had two whiskies on me, and I tipped him 500 b. Great host bar experience. Act III: Having sent B photos of Jinno on my lap and my hands all over him, B decided that we go there again. Good decision for an additional reason. Turned out there was a birthday party for one of the boys. The occasion calls for no shirts off; rather they all wore narrow-fitting white shirts. Looked good. Jinno had no problem unbuttoning a bit for my searching fingers, and we were back to our ystrdy's moves. B found himself another boy, much more proactive than Jinno. He began some dancing moves, which caused B to enthusiastically follow suit, claiming: "Farang CAN dance even if their preference is that we sit"! I wanted to join in, but Jinno claimed he doesnt dance and or that he is tired bcs he didnt sleep well. When I asked why, he said he is worried about his parents. I stopped there, bcs the direction might lead to hints at money... At some point B's guy disappeared, which didnt prvnt generous B from leaving with Jinno a tip for him. To honor the birthday boy, management brought the B-Boys troupe (we saw a couple days before at BBB) to perform. See below sexual act with the embarassed guest of honor, and an impressive fire show. The vids were too heavy/big to upload here, so I attached only snippets. GREAT last night for me at Jomtien Supertown.

Hahaha Vinapu (-: Humored my whim, but as a response to a short vowels-full text. I never drop normal letters, so: thNk u for A vRy cMpRhNsv rprt.

(-: Nothing to apologize about. I know you didnt; just wanted to set the record straight. I view your kind of comments as fulfilling the aim of this forum.

Kokopelli, I know how the system works. All I wrote was: 1) They werent MY taste, which of course doesnt disparage either their looks or others' tastes. 2) I didnt see anyone "walking down the soi with a farang", which surprised me. I expected it to b a common sight.

Bkk, ur QR idea is major sci-fi! PS, wldnt define myself as "shy". Not residing here, I dont know anything about expats socializing. I posted an 'academic' query about this on the forum a couple of months ago, and got the impression there's not much going on. To each - his own.... In any case, my comment was focused not on farangs' interaction btw themselves, but rather on the srprsng observation the so few of them in bars were interacting with local boys.

Jomtien Complex - Supertown is compact: 4 short streets, connected by 3 L-shaped turns, excluding the 2 bigger streets on its rims. Better understood by viewing the map just posted bu bkk (B). It boasts about 30 bars, 9 massage parlors, 10 cafes/rstrnts, and 4 main hotels. In the longest and main part, a roof covers the pedestrian street/lane (as shown in the photos below). That's where the main noisy action is, 20:00-02:00. 3-4 bars hold cabaret performances, the most impressive is Venue's. Walking along parlors or bars, boys approach with "hello mister, u want massage / sit / drink.... ?". Some here have dscrbd this as a hassle, to b avoided sometimes by taking shortcuts. Although I found next to no one offable (most being effiminate or twinkish or not my taste), during my 6 nights there I didnt feel annoyed by them. Au contraire; I always answered "no thank u", and/or shaked my head for "no". If they came closer to engage, I bantered with them; when they took my hand or touched me, I used the opportunity to caress them. Though by the third day they prbbly understood I wont b tempted, they persisted and it was just fine by me. Indeed, once when I was at Delice buying cookies, I bought some extras, and offered them to the massage boys in front of Soda and the 2 parlors close by. They were pleasantly surprised. As I checked into Agate, I started recieving apps solicitations from 1-200 mtrs away. Given there r at least 300 guys working around there, I later wondered why only a miniscule nmbr of them use apps to market themselves. As mentioned in my 3rd rprt I prefer the apps method, so all my meetings were cooked this way. I went into bars 4 times. The 1st was Venue; they got my attention bcs of the cabaret. I sat, watched, didnt see any offable staff, and rspndd to apps messages. The show was not as good as BBB's, but certainly enjoyable (though repetitive). After an hour+ a match clicked in grindr, so I retired to my hotel room. The other 3 bar visits were at Double Shot, which rate a rprt by itself. Two things surprised me. 1. Most farangs were sitting by themselves, pairs or groups. Very few were sitting with boy, usually in silence and looking bored. Depite intense people watching I didnt see even one instance of what would look like an off. 2. There's no erotica / horniness in the air, despite sex persumably being uppermost in the minds of most present. Didnt see any farang lust or any temptatious boy. Or maybe I dont know how to read.... I liked Jomtien Supertown; the concept, the atmosphere, people watching (boys and cstmrs). Doing that with B was an added value bcs he is such an expert watcher. (-:

B and I got to BBB just in time for the 22:30 show. The place was packed, about 20% female - either with their boyfriends or in groups. We were sitted right flank (further from the door) front row; good view. Some 20 guys were standing on stage, dressed, offering themselves to be offed. The majority were not twinks. Some were offable, but none really excited me. [I prefer to get mine through apps: nudes, written understandings, no interactions under unbearable noise.] These guys returned to the stage for the break, and after the show had ended. By then their numbers have dwindled, hopefully bcs some had been offed. The show was a mix of BBB's group (dancers, drag singers, straight big cocks) and the famous B Boys; it was a really professional high class show. In the first act, the cock guys were wearing white tongas, standing above blow holes that were lifting the tongas Marlyn Monroe style, thus exposing the cocks. One of them was right in front of us; I really wanted to reach out and grab..... In total the show lasted 2 hours. [At an early point I put in my ear plugs, which helped.] People gave tips to specific performers they liked, either directly if they were sitting front row; or through an usher, who then pointed out with a laser beam the back-sitting benefactor, so the performer cld gesture his gratitude. There was one old ugly lady who persistently came on stage, to tip every performer at a certain act. Guess she earned that right by her largesse, but it was really annoying. A couple of times an usher had to come up to escort her down. When the talented and sexy B-Boys gave 2 especially great performances, B gladly tipped them when the hat was passed, sighing: "If only they were offable..." The big cocks were attuned to the ladies, whenever a person from the audience was invited up, or when they got down into the audience. However, the ladies werent screaming disruptive dominating, so - contrary to some reports here - they didnt spoil my fun. Towards the end, the big cocks went around all the audience, to offer a grope. I shook hands with every cock that wasnt condomed (except one with a hideous inserted bean), tipping 100 each. One of them responded by planting a kiss on my forehead. I reciprocated by planting one on his cock; he recoiled. Bottom line: great time, to b had (if one is so inclined) for a mere 200 per first drink. After the show we/I peeked into the other clubs there. Toy Boys, A Bomb and X boys were lifeless: 2-3 boys, no cstmrs, zero energy. Dream Boys was dfrnt. Outside was a sexy twink, dressed in white undies, full of energy: "u want come in, sir? "U want me? I suck u, u boom boom?" I peeked inside; no cstmrs, but many boys. By then both of us were tired, but I decided to return. Great Pattaya-introductory evening!

"dancers"? Been there twice this week; no one was dancing. I wish they were; it wld add much needed energy.

My opinions are just that: mine, and mine alone; opinions (rather than facts) enjoying 1st amendment protection. On my first evening in Pattaya, I met bkkmfj2648 (henceforth B) for dinner: me - Pattaya newbie, he - local resident; therefore my treat. It turned out much better than my expected guidance meeting, because we really hit it off. B is a GREAT guy; was VERY patient with my too many questions; and since there was chemistry - we spent a LOT of touristic time together during my week there. Thanks again, B! After dinner we still had time before the Boyz3 show at 22:30, so we headed to Sunee. First stop - Nice Boys. We were the only customers. 12 scrawny boys quickly scrambled to the stage, dressed in undies. They stood there, no dancing, most busy with their phones, a few wanking covered dicks. I dont like twinks. I'm also a size queen. I came to P despite knowing that the majority of the boys wldnt fit my bill. I was however hoping to see in NB at least one or two more to my taste. Alas no. Anyway, after a couple of minutes B and I chose together the guy with the most potential, had him sit between us, and took turns at caressing his body and wanking him. He was busy with straight porn vids on his phone. His dick didnt rise to the occasion, so B gave him a 200 tip and off we went. In Winner there were 2 boys 0 cstmrs, so we doubled back just in time for the Boyz3 show. BTW Someone mentioned here the street leading to Sunee from BT as being dangerous, due to Arabs racing motorbikes. Saw nothing of that. The 8 mnts walk is standard and safe (and thus sooo dfrnt from Latin America).

My Pattaya reports are aimed at newbies by a newbie (third time in Thailand, first time in P), so please read and react with that spirit in mind. I decided to offer them thematically rather than chronologically, bcs I think it's more useful for searching info. The hotels: I botched my hotel reservations. Won't bore u with the humiliating story, but it explains why I m able to comment about a number of hotels. Spent 1st night at Avani - $100. The resort justifies the rate; great brkfst buffet. Cmfrtbl 6 mnts walk to Boyz Town. Then moved to Jomtien's Agate. Even though I had been following the forum and researching ahead, I was surprised at how compact the whole gay complex is. The 4 most mentioned hotels are literally within two minutes walk from each other. I had a 1 night rsrvation for Agate, followed by 5 nights at East Suites. However, when I crossed the street to check into the latter, per my reminder of an in-advance request for a quiet room not facing the street, I was told there is no such room (available?). The manager was VERY nice about it; took me to the room; and offered to cancel the rsrvation if I prefer to go elsewhere. I went to check out the others and decided to return to Agate. Their rates for a standard room: Zinq 900 East 1400 Poseidon 1600 Agate 1900 (half Avani's rate). East and Poseidon r small, no more than 12 rooms. Zinq and Agate have scores of them. I liked the way Poseidon looked. The nice Getman manager said the windows have triple noise isolation. Cldnt offer availability; I think I'll try it out next time. I didnt like the way Zinq looked; the open spaced terraced way to the rooms reminded me of a prison. Agate is quite satisfactory. I like the spacious room; brkfst buffet is ok for 200 baht; welcoming attitude and service.

OTOH, I just noticed that his rate for a ride to U-Tapao airport is double the taxi rate in Bolt.

R u a frequent visitor in SR ?

200 baht

Good That's what we r here for Pay it forward. (-:

My Pattaya reports are aimed at newbies by a newbie (third time in Thailand, first time in P), so please read (and react?) with that spirit in mind. I decided to offer them thematically rather than chronologically, bcs I think it's more useful for searching info. Mike's taxi service was rcmndd here, and m happy to rcmnd it forward. Online rgstration easy and user-friendly. 1000 baht. I also established in advance whatsapp contact with him, just to b on the safe side; he readily obliged me. Arriving 14:45 in a small plane from Siem Reap and with only a carry-on trolley, I whisked thru. Per email instruction, I proceeded to exit gate 3. At first I didnt see anyone holding a paper with my name on it, but that was bcs I had mistakenly assumed that mine wld b the only one. However, some reps have boards with mltpl names, and that's where I found mine. The young lady contacted the driver waiting outside; told me it wld take 10 mnts; at my request took me to sit at some benches; and rtrnd 7 mnts later to take me to the taxi. The taxi was immaculate, and the driver very polite. He asked me to type the name of my hotel into his nvgation app, and off we drove at 15:25. He also showed me on his cellphone that he is aware of my request to stop in P at a TT branch for exchanging money, which of course he did. The ride took 95 mnts, 75 of which we were cruising at 110 kph on the highways. Level of service: PERFECT PS Rate of exchange was $1 = 35.2 baht