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I beg to differ, Rob; I think u r a VERY good trip report writer. Who says a good report has to focus on numbers.....? I'll arrive in 2 weeks time. Ur report both unfortunately and fortunately downgraded my expectations. I got the feeling that the sex bored u. For me it'll be 3rd time in Thailand, 1st time in P. Hope I wont be bored.

I want to go there when I visit at the end of the month, but all updated reports here say there's nothing there... )-:

Thx. The last post is from two months ago; that's kind of dead, isn't it? Or at least on a coma... Nevertheless, I looked for help in the hope that someone considerate such as you would breath new life into it. (-:

Thx, but since my previous visit was 4 years ago, I don't know / remember what low and high are...

I'll be there next week. Could anyone please contribute anything about anything? Venues? Apps? Rates? Something.....? Are PP and SR as dead as this forum ? )-:

Bert, I've visited 4 times. Medellin, Cartagena, Bogota. Never felt unsafe. However, since there IS a safety issue, I followed common sense rules pertaining to Latin America. No hay problema. Actually, no habia problema.

Snwbrdr, what's the going rate for these guys ?

Thx for the warning )-: And for the foto (-: What's the going rate for these hung guys ?

How come there's no mention of the promiscuous Nice Boys?

Dont know. Others: bogo 64 Mercure bogota bh holiday inn express Embassey suits by hilton

I rcmnd the Viaggio 617: good simple unexpensive; within walking dstnc to venues; no prblm with guests.

Why does the basic room in the first cost more than double the best room in the second? Does the Jomtien location make all the difference?

I just checked Agate's website. It seems none of the rooms offer a mini fridge. Could this be really so ?

Musgrave, 2 customers with 20 boys, for 3 hours..... ?! What went on there ?

Of course, but u r talking quality and I - quantity. The fewer there are, the less a chance to find a treasure. Furthermore: it's depressing to sit in an almost empty venue (not only in this context). The more - the merrier. I'd guess the promiscuous atmosphere in NB, enthusiatically described in the past, doesnt flourish in such a desolate scene. )-:

I hope the experts will correct me: Since one venue is closed and the other has only 5 boys, doesnt that mean that the area simply isnt worth a visit?

Musgrave, Deserted Winner - any way to say if it's permanent, or only that Friday? Could u pls elaborate about the Nice Boys experience? OOH, "to forget", OTOH - "depends on what lights your fire"..... Thx

Thx. Any elaboration about the nature of the "rash of crimes"?

There r no brazil-like garotos saunas. However, there r saunas without garotos as well as brothels. I suggest you aquaint urself with bogota and medellin businesses threads. My medellin trip report partly mentions some.

So which is better, Nams or Mike? Do Mike also pick up at BKK airport?

Atraf doesnt work anymore, since it has been hacked.

wow, BKK! I salute your response!!

Hi Guys, Please recommend hotels which don't charge extra for visitors, and preferably check their IDs. I m familiar only with Boutique Hotel Palacio. Thx. (-:

Gaybutton, r u sure about rstrnts at high end hotels? Usually at hotel rstrnts, quality is less and price is more....

I second Riobard's response: standard double occupancy.