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Of course, but u r talking quality and I - quantity. The fewer there are, the less a chance to find a treasure. Furthermore: it's depressing to sit in an almost empty venue (not only in this context). The more - the merrier. I'd guess the promiscuous atmosphere in NB, enthusiatically described in the past, doesnt flourish in such a desolate scene. )-:

I hope the experts will correct me: Since one venue is closed and the other has only 5 boys, doesnt that mean that the area simply isnt worth a visit?

Musgrave, Deserted Winner - any way to say if it's permanent, or only that Friday? Could u pls elaborate about the Nice Boys experience? OOH, "to forget", OTOH - "depends on what lights your fire"..... Thx

Thx. Any elaboration about the nature of the "rash of crimes"?

There r no brazil-like garotos saunas. However, there r saunas without garotos as well as brothels. I suggest you aquaint urself with bogota and medellin businesses threads. My medellin trip report partly mentions some.

So which is better, Nams or Mike? Do Mike also pick up at BKK airport?

Atraf doesnt work anymore, since it has been hacked.

wow, BKK! I salute your response!!

Hi Guys, Please recommend hotels which don't charge extra for visitors, and preferably check their IDs. I m familiar only with Boutique Hotel Palacio. Thx. (-:

Gaybutton, r u sure about rstrnts at high end hotels? Usually at hotel rstrnts, quality is less and price is more....

I second Riobard's response: standard double occupancy.

If they actually reflect popular attitudes, I didnt know Asians r preferred over farangs. I m sorry to learn that most farangs r perceived negatively.

Good for u Emiel! Nothing ventured - nothing gained. Is there an ID process at the Agate? Additional pay for bringing guests? Is the hotel quiet, despite the noisy complex?

Street taxis or apps r the first and simplest choice, but r they readily available also at sites 30-40 minutes from Pattaya?

Thank u. Sorry, who is P ? Any recommendations as to where/how to hire in Pattaya ?

.....for example - Nong Nooch and Khao Chi, or Crocodile Farm and Magical Ice? Do I rent a car, or hire a driver-car for a day? How much wld it cost?

Thx

Do they allow visitors?

Gentlemen, I propose calling a ceasefire. I humbly submit there's nothing useful to add on the matter..... (-:

Thank you BKKMFJ for the detailed description. (-:

If they r serious about the ID process, they r not supposed to let the visitor leave w/o checking with u first.....

According to gglmps, its half way btw jomtien and winner. Looks like neither here nor there...

Please describe the facilities there. Also, no one reported anything about any action there, or if the inhouse masseur offers plus service....

Why do they care what he does after hours?

Olddaddy, I've never considered relocating anywhere. I'm staying in Israel bcs it's my home country; my family and my friends are here; my life is here.