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I believe this was done fully aware of its impact towards tourism and such. While tourism wasnt malaysia's major income, majority of malaysia's visitors has always been muslim from the middle east, and with recents years, chinese from mainland china, none of which would be affected as much as most western visitors. As with any political issues, majority wins. Heck, even US voted the womanizer, racist, bigot, homophobic orange jay as their president. One thing for sure, the MB market here is still alive, but it is more secluded now. We have gay centers but its not well advertised, even locals have a hard time finding it without some guidance from others. And with the multiple raids, many have goes freelancing. The pool of boys are good enough for me to have someone to go with almost once a week if i want to lol. And bangkok is just 2 hour flight away.

Without knowing what is your interest, we can only suggest stuff for you to do blindly. Some things ive done before, strolling lazily around lumphini park, bangkok art and cultural center near mbk, shopping around platinum/pratunam market, the train night market, maeklong market, one of the many museums, cooking lessons, movies, sky bars, asiatique, hard rock cafe, the many local bars with live bands to name a few.

He is a free men now and in line to be the next prime minister. Im sure he can look back and laugh at it one day. Who knows when though lol

Lol that was the joke of a century. I remembered the mattress were being carried into the court, with the "affected area" conveniently removed lol

I would like to echo again my appreciation to both of them! Wish i can like these posts multiple time daily haha. Its an in depth guide worthy of an article in many travel gay magazines

They were making love with their underwear off and they find a dildo hidden under the car seat lol

Its an actual video in court case albeit its very old. And the media people who witness the women being canned also testify similarly. The reason of the canning is not to hurt but to educate, at least thats what they claim it to be. Some other fun facts, the women were caught in the back seat of the car, parked near the independence square, at 1.50pm in the afternoon. They pleaded guilty, given 14 days to appeal and chose not to. According to the law, maximum punishment are up to 3 years jail, up to rm5k($~1.2k) fines and up to 6 canes, and they were served 3.3k fines, 6 canes with no jail time.

Wow, i didnt expect such elaborate responses from both of you, our forum veterans indeed surpasssed my expectations. Indeed my main concern is the financial, i want to first make a proposal that are both enticing but not too over the top too lol. It will also helped me in preparing how much money i should bring. Ive never thought about skin getting darker, that's definitely will be in the book as well. Food might be of less concern for me since i am not a picky eater, and ive seen some of his posts in his social media of the variety of food he ate too. Alone time discussion is also in my mind as well, this will be another thing that will be discussed as well. I think both of you have covered a lot of grounds already. Now all i need is to make sure my friend is indeed has to cut short the trip and bought his flight ticket before i engage with the boy with my proposal. I dont want to give false hope and then have to cancel it later.

In case anyone wondering how islamic canning is done? Here is a recording of a different case in a different state, done on a guy. https://youtu.be/YVs53S86das

I know this topic have been discuss before, and i know all the precautions, good and bad of making this decision. However my query is mostly on the finance part. Ultimately it will be discuss with the said boy, but i dont want to make unreasonable proposal too. I will be travelling to another country, not thailand, with a friend, and there is a high chance that he will have to cut the trip short, thus leaving me alone in the country for at least 4 days alone but also gives me a good opportunity to invite one of the boy to be with me in the country. Ive checked thaivisa and thai nationals doesnt need to apply visa, and i know that the boy have travelled outside before, from his chatting with me and some travel pictures he shares with me before. Now, for those who have done it before, what is usually the expectation in terms of finance? I take it ill be covering the flight tickets and transportation door to door, and daily tips. On the daily tips, should i pay their normal long time fee plus off fee daily? How about the food? Shopping etc? Will it be all inclusive? I am pretty sure i will need to draw some agreement but im clueless to what is expected lol Its just an idea that might not even pan out, but i am tempted to make a proposal to the boy and see if he want to make the travel or not, if he doesnt want to, no harm done hehe

We shall see. He will not be charge under islamic law though. Civil law is definitely much harsher than the limited islamic jurisdiction here

I am blaming both. If u have a pharaoh as a ruler, would u go and build your own pyramid and expect pharaoh to keep quite?

Yup saw this in local news yesterday. It is the first ever "public" canning, done in a close court room, with 100 attendees in the court, mixed of court officials, government officers, prosecutors and defendants, as well as the many ngos people. The canning were done not according to civil laws, but shariah law, which is not as harsh. Anyway, these two women having sex in a car out in public when the lgbt issues were a hot political issues is like asking for it and it only shed a bad light on the other lgbt and proving that the islamic party is right in saying lgbt is a social problem.

the most important things everyone wants to know is, if u are tipping well in gay establishments in thailand, does it usually translated to better services from them? From my experience as well as from reading trip reports, it has always been hit and miss. Sometimes paying high tips give the impression that u dont know the market price, hence labelled as newbie and some boys take advantage of that, while other times, those high tips boys performs much better than the low tips boys. While we keep arguing here, there is one major lack of POV from the boys to put into the equation when discussing tips vs service. And i agree that tipping is confusing for most people, it confused me as well when i first learned about tipping when i was in the states too lol. At least over there, its clear where and how much u should tips, usually 20% and rounded up the dollar. if the service is great, tip more if not tip less. In thailand however, tipping rules are very vague, and throw in manipulative mamasan, tourist scam, and horny gays in the mix, it becomes more complex than simple calculus lol

Tips is market driven especially in bkk. For residents, u can always wait it up during low season where the boys are more flexible on the tips. Thats something visitors cant do hence they let their penis do the talking lol

And yet they are still building more skyscrapers. Dusit and soi twilight areas soon to be filled with hotels and apartments too

I once see boys also leave tips to grabber/doorman outside and those who watched their motorcycle where they park. More like them sharing their wealth after successfully landed an off from me. It shows you appreciate the person, their work, and effort. And in return they might perform better as well. In malaysia, tipping is definitely not a custom here, nor do they expect tips, but none will be offended if they receive one, in fact you will see a shock face followed by generous smile and a little prayer to your well being. Many restaurants and hotels here already have service charges applied to your bills anyway. I sometimes tips masseurs at legit massage parlour here especially if they gives great massage and arent afraid to go near my underwear area. Some of them dont even wait for u to leave at the door, leavig no chance for you to give them tip.

Philippines?

Just tip whoever u want whenever u want to. Dont feel the pressure to tip just because everyone do it. And tips accordingly as long as u can afford it. There are richie rch out there who tips their masseurs 1000usd, because they make 10million usd a month.

Talking about overpriced tuk-tuk, hua hin beats the rest. Its 150 min even to go to a short distance.

Usually thats what customers wants. Muscular guy being manly and twink guy being femme. Sometimes it depends on their friends and mamasan too. If most of their friends are femme, they probably want to fit in and acting similarly and vice versa.

No need to say sorry lol. I am still lucky that bangkok is only 100usd and 2 hour flight away lol

Election already happened in mei this year, and we finally got a new gov. Current issues on lgbt started because of the OP post, and it went on to so many other rants from women on trans that used their toilets. Anyway, the new gov have been very fair on this issues. We have just passed the 100days mark of the new gov in power, and everyone is still trying to adjust with the new gov. The muslim parties were split into two, one conservative who maintain their old name and isnt part of the new gov coalition, and another more liberal muslim party who are part of the current gov. The minister actually organize a meeting with the lgbt activist to discuss this issues. Most of the noise are mase by oppositions, the muslim conservatives, that cant still move on from their lost. Anyway, personally, i have been lucky enough not to be in the premises when the raids happened. I only goes to the gay massage places, and at least 3 of them has been raided, mostly only foreign masseur who dont have proper work permit were caught. Have never been to blueboy though, but it is certainly a big move since that area (bukit bintang) have been practically untouchable during previous gov reign. Raids have been done to both gay and non gay establishments though, so its not like indonesian gov who only targets gay.

Read an interesting post about the reader and his ladyboy affection. He is straight and only like women, but in the article he compared genetic women vs ladyboy, more cons on women and pros on ladyboy. Glad we dont have that problem to deal with lol

Is it dusit hotel? He mentioned that in the post above he brought a guy to dusit. Hmm ive brought guy back before but never a problem.