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Why would anyone brings that amount of cash around baffles me unless he is involved in something illegal. Serve him right then, no one shouldve help him out, not even other farang friends let alone the poor boy.

For regular trippers like yourself vinapu and like what i insipred to be, new things excites us. But for those for the first time visiting, or have a very short time in bkk, they would want to visit a bar that is tried and tested highly recommended bars, and avoid bad ratings or mixed review or uncertain new bars.

Or probably some might worry BIB will make appearances as well

For every bad things u say about a race or a religion, same things can be said by their counterparts about your own race and your own religion. And I believe the same can be said for good things too. Im not going to preach one is better than the other since i believe nothing good will ever come from making such comments when its clear that most of us here aren't religious anyway, and i bet the same goes to those arabs who went to pattaya looking for sex, straigjt or gay. Peace all!

Maybe u guys forgot that not all arabs are muslims.

Those pictures keep changing from time to time, one of the few that are actually updates their websites promptly. Like i said, some pictures are exactly recent some maybe few years old some had been photoshopped. Anyway, since u have been here before, u sure know what i meant btw, many of them come here for 2-3 weeks and then back to their country due to visa. So it depends on luck too. Also, they have second gallery with different sets of boys on a different premise.

Any kind of profiling always have similar problems, over-generalization of complex human behavior. We do it all the time and trust me other people do it all the tine to u as well. Its how we are thought and to a certain extend, how our brain works too. As long as we still realize that it is not the absolute truth, and there is always different kind of people along the wide spectrum of things, i think it is harmless. But when you start using it for anything other than observations, then itll spread prejudice.

And many years before arena, he works at tawan. He is my regular here lol and that picture also few years old too. For me he looks much better now lol but then again, im into slightly older guys.

One boy actually told me she has already a boy that she regularly off for few times already, i guess she wants to up the boy status among the boys and bar as well.

Not really new but yeah its there for i dont know how long.

i also find mamasan at moonlight has been very helpful, though too bad i didnt off anyone when i got there. U cant show me those gorgeous models and asked me to settle for less haha. And yes, that boy above, is also recommended to me by the mamasan. While he is indded handsome, i find him a tad bit fem for my liking but i guess its normal for a bottom?

When i went there last time, there is this one german lady who open maybe 2 bottle of wine and all boys come and sit there to enjoy the free drinks. I guess we can always go for the boy only not to stay long lol

So i tried to do some excel spreadsheets comparing some costs of services between kuala lumpur vs bangkok tailored to my own habit. It includes massages cost as well, with a minimum and maximum for each category (normal massage, gay massage, money boy (little or no massage in kl vs gogo boy in bkk). For massages, its further divided into time spent, 60-90-120min. Without even considering hotel costs and air travel, it seems like there is two categories where its cheaper for me to do in bkk compare with in kl, one is the normal massage prices, where its slightly cheaper. However for gay massages, for 60min duration, its about the same, anything longer, its cheaper here. For moneyboy, gogobar, i include at least the price of off fee and tips for st and lt, where in kl, there is no off fee, its cheaper to get in kl vs bkk, but for lt, or overnight, bkk wins by a lot. Anyway, as i mentioned before, quality and quantity of offable boys or muscular masseurs in bkk far surpass what kl have to offer. Another thing to mention, for gay massage, i used arena for minimum, senso for maximum. Similarly in kl, i use the cheapest male massage center and the trendiest one, which is still not up to senso standard ( massage on table vs king size bed). Eitherway, itll never be apple to apple comparison, so why not have both of the goods haha. Also worth to mention, aside from normal massage, everything else is illegal here.

Could it be because of the time difference which is around 12-14 hours with the US? Which means, for your night activities, its actually lunch hour back at home, so staying awake shouldnt be a problem.

My bad lol. Those dreamboys used to be twink haven no? Still not a good news to hear when bars have no boys. How are they going to survive?

Exactly, this index is for those who have to make a choice between any countries they wanted to go for hiring boys as well as vs a staycation in your own country. The name index itself suggest a relative value vs a predetermined reference, which in this case, US vs other places. U can create your own index using the detailed step by step instructions that numazu has generously provided. And you can always tailor it to you own habits. I probably will do my own calculations later just for fun haha. Disclaimer - i am also asian. And i love maths

Maybe she believes that once she already gave so much, she doesnt need pay more for sex lol.

Wow no boys at dreamboys? What is happening?

If i were to follow this index, i would never had left my place at all, except for long time (overnight), and definitely for the gogobars experience. Food is cheaper here, hotel roughly the same price, though plane ticket is cheap. Short time in bkk can last 30-2hours or so but over here, we pay by hour, and a full service are around rm210 ( ~1.7k baht, rm 1.23 = 10 baht). Since many boys working here are from outside, with varying quality, that value can range from rm150-400 for 1 hour. Overnight can range from 700 ( 5.7k baht) and up. I can say ive never had overnight here, as i dont really stay at hotel at my place, usually the mb i took is either at the massage centers or have their own hotel room (budget hotel). So, at 3k baht overnight plus off fee, its still cheaper to get overnight in bkk by 2k per night compared to my place. Short time depends on quality and time, if u take 2 hour, then bkk is cheaper, at 1 hour, here is cheaper. Factor in hotel and flight, id say about even for bkk if i only do overnight lol. And of course quality of boys i bkk makes it all worth the while lol.

For bangkok, arena.

I remember seeing a signboard that says "tourist meeting point" at one of the starback in platinum shopping center. I guess we need another sign that says "horny farang / asian boys meeting point" install here as well

Thanks for another awesome trip report vinapu, enjoyed it tremendously. When will be your next trip aka 18th trip to LOS? Maybe we should time it together haha. I might go and join my friend travelling to siem reap in September, was thinking if i can side track to bkk before or after that 4 days trip haha lol.

Pretty similar with tuktuk in hua hin, 150 each trip for short journey.

Dont think u can get a work visa for escort haha

Wow, i never know this baptism can goes extreme too lol