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a timely trip report as BF and I just decided that we are going back to PP in late august... We were there in January and can't wait to go back... Really loved Heart of Darkness (and space bar!) Also good to hear about a new venue Toolbox.... Looking forward to reading the rest of your report!

my experience - and that of my friends is the exact opposite to above I have gone from 1 in 100 suggesting we don't need a condom... to 1 in 2 suggesting we don't need one In fact a lot of guys just go ahead and try and sit on me raw without even asking for a condom... they grin at you and start to slowly glide you inside before you even realise what they are doing.

Some would say that they already have access to that, so no need to ask for it!

Issan = Wake at 6am, do a Monk & Parents tribute, open the loud speakers, do a village parade, drink Lao Khao (Rice whiskey) and knockout by midday. Sleep the rest of the day and start again the next morning. Suggest you stick to Bkk (Or maybe Chiang mai if you want to experience something different but still lively)

In my experience the waiters will be pretty spot on when your allotted time is over Boy finishes drink, waiter approaches and asks will you buy the boy another drink.... Your options are then to either: Buy it, hence expressing an interest in him staying longer Say no, and most likely the boy will go back on stage Say no, and off the boy, go elsewhere for more drink/food or back to hotel

My Parents are in Late 60s/Early 70s and have also threatened to visit Thailand at the same time as me on many occasions I could see my mother happily passing a day in Central, Royal Garden and Mike, the floating village, the orphanage, Sanctuary of truth,an evening in Theprassit market... However I could not imagine my mother climbing into the back of moving songtaew... and certainly not on a motorbike taxi! So I think the Taxi Meters would be making plenty of money from us! My biggest fear would be some nelly or LB calling out my name and chasing after me as we all walked down walking st! So if they do decide to join me... Pattaya will definitely not be on the itinerary!

What time was this at and where did it happen? Yes some farang get a bit carried away with Songkran (especially the Arabs in recent years) which is a real pity. So the real advice here should be: -If you don't like songkran, get the hell out of Thailand for that week! - And don't complain if you get wet if you stick around If you like it come and enjoy - But please bear in mind that the water play should stop after 7 (on all but the 18th)

As other have posted the official days in Bkk are 13-15 The official days in pattaya are the 18 & 19th North Pattaya Celebrates Wan Lai on the 18th and it becomes a mini Silom all day no.18. Pattaya itself plus Jomtien celebrate on the 19th and most traffic is practically at a standstill. Of course there is water play all the way from 12-19 in Pattaya, mostly on Soi Buakow and beach road near Soi's 6/7/8 + parts of Jomtien. But its sporadic and tends to keep to day time hours (the songkran haters will claim it goes 24/7 - but it doesn't!) Whilst North Pattaya has a heavily German and Scandinavian population... it also draws the Gay boys in the afternoon of the 18th. Choose from one of the many bars along the strip and buy a few beers there. You can then use their water as long as you keep drinking... And of course meet the gay boys as they stroll past! (note that some of the real German bars are not welcoming of anyone but Germans, and are pretty vocal in telling you to clear out!) In the evening of 18 there is always an Issan Concert/Morlam on 3rd road, and it's always jammed. Unlike normal Morlams, this one often turns into a Water & powder fight as the night goes on. Given the April heat, the cool water is very welcome! NAB usually has a foam party on the night of the 17th/18th too - but closes on the 19th. The night of the 18th walking st is normally a 24 hour water fight. Just watch out for the Russian hookers - who don't like to get wet! All day no.19 is usually madness all over pattaya, in previous years crowds tended to gravitate towards Jomtien, but recently they gravitate towards Central instead. Jomtien Complex usually puts on a stage and foam party at its main entrance. A recent phenomenon is that songkran now extends after sunset on the 19th... It used to be that it would end pretty sharply at sunset (with a rain shower!) and everyone would go home to bed. Nowadays the party goes on and last year I was at a very busy "wet 'n' Wild'" party in Tiffany car park, followed by further mayhem in Tum Nan Issan (where thankfully the AC was off!) until 4am 23 days until i fly - can't wait!

OMG, Forrest! I haven't seen you throw such a hissy fit since my Filipino nursemaid (Jay?) offered you a bed-bath! Funnily enough he never offered one to me!

AFAIK 9Monsters is the most popular gay app in Japan Its a bit mad as you have to categorise yourself as one of nine "monsters"!

Note that your preference is purely physical, whilst BFs preference are emotional. As above for me (and BF) there has to be "a connection" between us and the boy... if not hes dispatched home with a polite excuse and a (smaller) tip. Others end up moving in with us - and that works fine... until one of 3 started to get fed up with one of the others! Agree with Chillnorther also - that the unplanned threesomes are always the best ones... when something just happens organically. e.g. Boy comes to disco as an extra with an invited friend, some flirting, some joking, an offer of a lift to South Pattaya... suddenly you are all home together...

I am talking about the difference between having sex and making love! Yes a MB guy that has a BF will go with a customer for money. Similarly a straight MB that has a GF will go with a customer for money, But at the end of the day you are not going to get a BFE (Boyfriend experience) from them... the sex may be good, or may be just satisfactory or completely crap... But it will be missing that special something... As they are keeping it in reserve for their BF/GF. Also remember that the MBs BF/GF will be a lot more jealous knowing that they are going with a Thai & farang customer.. Versuss going with a farang customer only. The single guy on the other hand is more likely to give it his all... especially if a genuine connection has been made. Remember the boys are not robots... They are like diesel engines and need to be warmed up a bit in advance if you want good performance! e.g. I was with 1 particular guy 3 times. First time sex was amazing (he was single), Second time was so so (and he left as soon as I came... to join his BF) Third time he was single again and sex was back to amazing By BFE I mean sex starting with making out in the lift, both stripping off as soon as you get in the door, no time for shower... it would ruin the moment - just get straight into the action. Wild passionate sex. Cum 2-3-4 times in the night etc (And I'm not saying that i get this every time! More like 1 in 8 times - if lucky!)

I've probably had 30+ 3somes with BF and other Asian guys over the last 14 years... And a few 4somes... for them to work and be enjoyable there absolutely has to be a mutual attraction for all parties (even if its purely business for the 3rd) I can understand the 'share cock' phrase above! The guys know where their friends cocks have been... and who they have been with... and maybe they don't like the idea of catching second hand clap from them! My BF would never go near a guy if he knew that guy had sex with a LB, of course he knows that they probably had sex with a LB at some stage in their lives... but knowing that the actually had sex would be a complete turn off for him! Similarly he wouldn't have sex with a MB who has a Thai BF. Why? Because then the guy is doing it for the money, not for the fun (+ bonus money)... It would completely ruin the 3some BF Experience for the night knowing that his BF was at home waiting for him... or worse still waiting outside the door or our condo! Again its the knowing he has a BF versus the thought that he might have a BF that makes a subtle difference

Around 10 years ago we were having a house warming party for my BFs new house in Buriram. We took a minibus with around 7-8 Pattaya guys to BFs village All but 1 of the Pattaya boys (he was in a monogamous relationship) had multiple sex partners over the 3 days we were in the village, usual price for fun was a pack of cigarettes or some Lao Khao. At the end of that trip my farang travelling partner ended up taking one of the village boys back to Pattaya with him... of course when they both woke from their drunken haze the next morning - the attraction was gone! So I was the one who had to take care of sending the stranded boy back to Buriram! Similarly I have visited morlams in Issan - where the straight boys and gay boys get together for some mutual fun... as soon as the straight boys realise that they aren't going to get a girl that night So the village boys get plenty of experience before they ever hit the shores of Pattaya!

Sounds like opening a bottle of whiskey is the way to go if there are 3-4 of you and you want to stay for a few drinks Do you know if the whiskey@3000B includes all mixers, some mixers or no mixers? And do any of the twilight bars also do Whiskey sets? In Pattaya gogo bars we usually pay 1100-1500 for a 700ml bottle of 100 pipers + all mixers included... its definitely the way to go if you are out with a gang

I've never had a Pattaya boy (Free or MB) ask for oral with a condom... In fact these days its often a struggle to stop a boy trying to have anal without a condom In Vegas on the other hand I had 2 (free) encounters in a row who wanted oral with a condom - on both occasions I declined the BJ and sent them away. It was too easy to find someone else on Grindr

I don't have any problem with your posts Numazu... They are very much appreciated and I love to see your perspective! You felt "hard done by" and moaned in your last few posts - so I merely offered a reason why people may have umbrage.. There are a lot of fawners on this board... but it seems that you have a problem with anyone having the temerity to criticize your posts.. As you rightfully post you fixed the original DM issue by blurring the pics... Of course your couldn't amend your original post to say they ARE prostitutes... as that would break Thai law and defame them.. So well done to you on choosing to blur their pics and save yourself and this forum future grief The boys in the original post were on an off night in a public place, so nobody has a right to take their pics and call them prostitutes on a public forum (even if they are) The boys in the other threads were working... and KNEW their pics were being taken (otherwise they wouldn't have posed)... Most would argue that your shots were surreptitious. Remember: a picture paints a thousand words... a captions paints ten thousand more!

I don't think DM is talking about the Coyote pics (which are on FB) but rather the pics of customers... You took pics of some guys having a night out in a club and posted them on a public forum staing that you thought they were prostitutes E.g. "I look around and see familiar faces. I see two boys that I think are gogos from Screwboys: They were with an older Thai guy. I am only guessing that the two were working tonight, judging from the body language. At the next table, I see four familiar faces. I think these were Jupiter boys" If would have been more appropriate if the pics were part of your boy-watching series and without labelling the guys as possible gogo boys... what if they were just normal gay guys on a night out?

My usual rule of thumb in any massage place is to give the equivalent of the fee as a tip So 300B oil massage gets 300B tip 200B foot massage gets 200 tip etc.

That may explain some of your bad luck with offs... There is a Laos boy called Pet that you mention recently in your blog, I have met Pet and had and absolutely great night out with him followed by some of the most passionate sex i have had in recent years... Perhaps that great sex was because I tried to cultivate a relationship?

I first stayed at the C&N in 2002, and have stayed there 5 from 6 trips since. Price vs Location it can't be beaten. No problem with joiners, they need to sign the guest register and basic ID check, but in general no problems. I stayed with (Thai) BF last few trips and no problem with 3rd guy coming to join us... The "space age" newer rooms are great, love the lighting! I will def book C&N next time I visit

try going inside! Most those guys are there every night last 12 months

Great report so far! $200USD seems like a huge price for a tour in a third world country... Did you find it value for money? We did something similar in Phnom Penh earlier this month and the all in cost for 3 people was less than 100USD

a lot of boys on hornet will now write "not for free" or "I'm Moneyboy" in their profiles During show time in NAB its quite often that the Ladyboy "Monsters" will start to shout out about Garee Pattaya (Pattaya Prostitutes) and its usually all titters and laughs during this section of the show... So for me its all about the tone in which the MB insinuation is made...

The bad news is that the Mercure hotel is known as a ghost hotel to many locals or long term Pattaya guests The almost complete hotel site was abandoned during the Asian crisis in 1997 and lay unfinished for a number of years During that time it was used as a yaba den and was often the scene of murders or apparent "suicides" A lot of locals will refuse to stay in this hotel to its reputation (Certainly my BF anyway!) Don't be surprised if a guy doesn't want to stay long term there (overnight) - its not personal... just superstition!