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Lisbon is really cheap and the guys there were quite nice. I used to have a Portuguese guy who would come to me for 50e per session whenever I was there. He was young and hot, a bit short but the sex was good. I used to go there just to visit him but after covid I haven't been there so not sure what is happening with the ongoing rates. I think Lisbon is the second best city in the western europe (after barcelona) when it comes to hiring a gay escort

what do you wanna know? I am happy to answer any questions that are not answered here yet

I had the same question years ago but I think it is the quality and quantity of the guys in Brazil. It is not comparable to Thermas. Two best saunas in Rio and SP offers far better choices and I had much better experience there as well. I do like Club 117 more than everywhere else just because of the selection you can have and the overall experience you would have with the guys. I felt like the attitudes there are very different. In thermas, it is a hit or miss and if you know the guys well, it is easy to have fun. If not, sometimes you will have disappointments However, if you are EU based, I think Thermas offers an excellent value for the bucks. Escorts in most western european cities will charge somewhere between 100 and 150e, but you can get the same quality for 50e in thermas. Of course, it depends on what you wanna do. I am quite happy with being topped and I don't care about him finishing, so it works for me. Usually I have a problem with kissing or getting hard. They always say yes but you never know with new encounters. But if you are after a good value, I think there are many places in Eastern europe where you can find quite stellar guys for a little money. Prague used to be one but long ago the prices went up. I used to go to Budapest and I was always able to find a hot guy there but I haven't been there for years now. It requires some effort. I once tried Bucharest over the weekend, and I had one of the best weekend there. All 50usd for one meeting but the guys were quite hot. It took a while to search but I was bored before my trip that time. I think London, (where you are?), is probably the worst european city for us: the guys are hard to communicate, have some attitudes and the prices are insanely high. My recent two trips were not very easy but if you know someone good do let me know in private.

glad you had fun at thermas. I usually pay 50 regardless of who, so even the hottest ones were quite ok with 50 given they always wanted to meet with me during my next visit. But when I started visiting thermas a few years ago, I remember tipping generously because i thought it was a good value. Nowadays, i am more tempted to invite the good ones for a drink at the bar....

even if the escorts want to be greedy or had little income, the rate is pretty much determined by the supply and demand. My understanding is that they can charge such a high rate because they are buyers on that price range. Recently, WillBritish quoted me 300gbp and I just couldnt stop laughing, especially after looking at his face...Maybe he has clients who are willing to pay such a rate regularly so he is quoting such a rate but must be someone with a bad taste lol

I don't know what is wrong with the rates in London. I recently asked rates for some escorts there because everyone says ask me, which is quite annoying and time consuming. To my surprise, most average guys will say 200, some hot guys would say 250, and some odd ones would say 300. Yep 300 gbp is like 430USD! Look wise, they are not that hot, but they seem to be ok with it, so probably there are a lot of people hiring them at that rate. When I visited London way before the pandemic, it would see 100gbp usually and some 130-150 at most but the rates were public. When I visited London last summer after the opening, most were quoting me 150 and now it became 200...I wonder whether the pandemic had a role in it? More or less the border has been open since last summer and now without any testing requirements for vaccinated, so I am guessing escorts can just go to london and try to make some money, which would push the rates down. Still the rate just kept increasing so I am just wondering what is contributing to the rate increase...

😅 yeah, usually turks like to match their price to euro, instead of fixing their rate on TL but that could be different at sauna, so I wondered

yep, that junior, highly recommended.

I think I know him. I like him quite a lot. He is an amazing kisser and has such a well balanced body. His size is also perfect for me. But does he bottom? One time he couldn't get hard, which was a big surprise for me but he asked me to top him and he couldn't take it...Or he just pretended, I don't know. In any case, I saw him last year, and I didn't see him this time in the sauna. I think he used to live with Junior last year or so. When I asked about him during my visit this time, Junior showed a bit of displeasure on his face, so I thought there was something between them when they lived together near Plaza de Espanya

I agree, I always enjoyed that place. Can you tell me a bit about angelo? I have probably seen him but I am not good with names, so body description would work. If you have pictures, you can send me via direct message.

after my disappointment in London, I had a quick trip to Barcelona and wanted to give an update. The sauna is open from 3pm to midnight and the entrance was increased to 20e, no one was wearing a mask, and I didn't. I was just a bit worried about getting omicron but we will see. I thought they would ask for the eu digital covid thing but they did not, so things were all good for me to enter and have fun. Boys wise, slightly slower than my visit in August but I was quite lucky to have fun. I saw Junior right after my arrival at 5pm and just took him immediately for fun. Well he doesn't disappoint! Just like an energizer bunny haha After fun, we had a drink but as usual he has a language issue. But always pleasant and patient with google translate. I realized that he aged, I mean I met with him a few years back and there was the pandemic for 2 years, no surprise but in my mind, all these escorts are young forever....until you actually notice it one day haha There was a columbian, a very new guy. After some rest, i had fun with him. He is gay, more top he says but he can kiss very well. He is quite tall, slim/toned but nice round ass (i am a bottom but i like bubble butt, i don't know why hahaha) He had a bit of english so it was easy to communicate. After him, I was just tired and left. He asked me to stay and socialize at the bar but i just didn't have any energy left. The sauna had some same people. The polish (?) guy who used to sleep there is still there...I always wondered how he makes business there. He is slim/average, not very good looking. There were quite a few Brazilians as usual and because of my first fun with Junior, they came to me one by one but none of them were my type (mostly the size down there was not a good choice and some just didn't have the body i like) The one that I remember is the average looking blond brazilian, he has been there quite some time but don't know his name. Another regular was the half japanese brazilian with huge p, and the rest I don't remember much. Out of sauna, I have my regular guy who gives me body-to-body so I had him one day. I also found a guy on grindr who wanted to have fun for 50e, which was also great. I was thinking about hiring at least one from online but just didnt have the time and energy. Overall quite happy but felt sad that I dont live there...

thanks for thinking about the potential further disappointment. It was fun, of course I didn't care about the mask rules as I am ok with wearing mask but i didn't have to wear a mask in the sauna, I will update the sauna thread.

thank you all for your advice on the matter. @msclelovr yes i am happy that nothing happened and now I know the police number in the UK lol To lift up my mood, I just booked a trip to barcelona this weekend so I will report back. Things are a lot easier in sauna haha I never used sleepyboys before, so if I leave a review, can the escort just delete the profile? Either way, he doesn't have any reviews, so I see it is probably costless to get rid of the profile once he gets a negative review. I also sent an email to rentmen, but I am not very hopeful they will take any action. Either way, let's see.

Just tried to have a session with PietroBrazil on hunqz. He is also on rentmen: PietroHotBoy I set up the meeting time tonight and of course as usual, I asked two things: if he has any erection issues, and whether he kisses with tongue. He confirmed in message he likes kissing with tongue and no issues with erection, so I booked and went to his apartment (probably airbnb?) off Sloan Sq. His english was weak so we had to use google translator. He asked me to pay upfront and I usually do not because it is a big red flag for me. After trying to explain this on google translator he said it is ok (I even showed him my wallet and showed I have the money), So he took off his shirt and I tried to kiss him but he avoided it and started kissing my neck, and I said he agreed to kiss with tongue and he got angry and went to bathroom and called someone. Oh boy, a big drama tranny came out her pen!s hanging and they briefly chatted in Portuguese and she just said "Money" to me. I got quite shocked with everything and i said "what?" and she just came to me and said money again and pushed me on the chest. I got really angry, it falls under assault and I never engage in any physical confrontation with anyone in my life and i didnt do anything to be physically assaulted like that. Anyway, I said I didn't get any service and I have no intention to pay because he agreed to certain things to make the booking but she just got closer to me, and said money again, so I got scared and I said I needed to call police. She said fine call but I didn't know the police number in UK so I had to google lol and someone got on the phone and asked me if I need an ambulance or police and I said police. Then she probably realized I actually called the police and said I can go. So I starting putting my shirt on, this Pietro guy got really aggressive all of sudden and tried to punch me. Yep! I was not sure if he really wanted to punch me or wanted to threaten me because he could have just punched me but didn't punch and kept pushing me with his body and calling me names. Now the tranny got hold of him and asked me to leave quickly so I just grabbed my jacket and bag and left. As soon as I got on the street, the police called back (because probably I got disconnected, I don't really remember why because things happened so quickly but I think i probably closed my screen as Pietro came to push me around). I told that the police everything is fine now...Made sure they were still in the house, not following me Anyway, it was quite scary but I really didn't know what to do. But his attitude is something I have never seen and I was thinking about it tonight quite a lot and maybe he was on a drug or something? I don't know, he didn't do what he promised and we didn't even touch each other and I was there for ten max, I couldn't figure out why he was so upset and aggressive.... I have two questions. 1. How do you deal with escorts who want to charge upfront? I feel like it is a big red flag as they are not confident in their service and usually do a sloppy job and once the money is in his hand, he has no incentive to fix things. But once we meet, things can get difficult. 2. I want to write a review but now the daddy is gone, what is a reliable place to write a review? Of course, he will delete hunqz and rentmen reviews so no point...

Is it a problem if you share the rate at aquarius with us?

Thanks for the detail so did the boys offer you in lira or euro? What was the rate

Glad you had fun. Turks usually quote in euro so I didn't think lira depreciation would make turkey attractive for us. Did you get quotes in lira? What is the going rate now at aquarius?

Their Facebook page says the entrance fee increases this year. So it's probably very new. But glad to hear that there were boys in December

Thanks. Their Facebook page seems active and says open from 3pm to midnight so I am guessing it is similar to restaurants. In any case I wonder if there are enough boys there... I went there in August and it was OK, not as great as before but had around 15-20 guys, mostly OK looking. I am guessing now it's worse... I also noticed they increased the entrance fee so I am wondering if it would have an effect on boys show up. If they struggle to get clients having to pay 20 plus food and drink might discourage them quite significantly...

Is thermas open these days?

So recs for hot muscular guys in kyiv?

I am considering kyiv as my next destination. Any leads? Recommendations? I like muscular guys who can kiss passionately

The guys were 99% Brazilians, maybe a few other Latinos but dark skin Latino look. Almost all of them were chatting with each other in Portuguese to kill time so I guessed Portuguese. When I say quality I mean the quality of the boys. I like muscular guys but I rarely see them now there. Maybe one or two. Also, just a general attractiveness of the guys were much worse in my two visits this time. I felt like the excitement of seeing many attractive guys is not there anymore. Just normal looking guys, and didn't feel like worth paying or trying.

I made a quick trip to Barcelona. I visited the sauna on two occasions. One was 7.30pm on Sunday and 5pm on Saturday. Saturday was busy but quite surprisingly more clients than boys. I would say there were 15 to 20 escort at 6 or 7pm, the busiest. However I noticed that the quality was a lot worse. Usually I can try three boys easily when I go to thermas but it was hard to find one these days. I tried Marcio, a buffy/muscly guy but he couldnt get hard. He said he can do everything but in cabin they changed his story. I hate these guys and of course it didn't go well. I asked him what to do, he replied we can finish but I asked if I have to pay 50e he said yes. Such a big turn off. I said he didn't deliver and he was not happy but in the end he wanted 30e so I gave it and got rid off him. Honestly if there were any other options I didn't have to deal with him but it is what it is. On another day I met with a guy I met long time ago. Actually he is really good and I took him immediately after seeing him. I also saw him finishing at least two more clients easily after me while I was cruising fory next, which turned out to be a lot harder lol I really don't understand why boys there who cannot perform or get clients spend so much time there... In any case at least I had one good sex. I also contacted a few boys I know from my previous times and most of them said they stopped going to the sauna. Maybe you guys could ask your regulars over whatsapp and get info about the current situation. Mine is just two nights so it might give you some limited insights. I also tried web ads and hunqs. It was endless process with chatting and not knowing who is real and a good performer. Also,there are jus too many ads and I didn't wanna spend so much time saving random numbers and whatsapping just to learn the rate. Most would quote 100 and slightly less for 30min. Things are slow on whatsapp and these sites. I was traveling with friends so didn't have the luxury to sit down and chat forever to figure out someone good. Overall I am disappointed in Barcelona in terms of what it used to offer. Hope it gets better soon

Called them, no answer...