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It's kinda funny because I started going to this place more than 10 years ago, still some of them from the time I started still go there 😂 Anyway, anyone used the black shower there? It seems like one has to take a key and I am guessing you just pay and get the key? And how is it like inside?

After all of these people who went and promised to go, still no proper review of sbn?

In Egypt I haven't seen any hammam for play but there are some massage places that offer some extra. I feel the same way in Morocco but I was never able to try out many hammams in Morocco. They all are very public but I did get some eye contacts from some guys there but I didn't feel like it was giving anything sexual, maybe just a look at a tourist 😆

How much was the extra?

I can't tell the difference between Chinese and taiwanese but from the videos with Chinese letters, I can see these are simplified Chinese, so I assume they are not taiwanese. Plus they are not vanilla at all, like crazy group sex etc. maybe we are talking about different things, these videos are not professionally made to be distributed via porn sites like the ones in the US but I can see they made for online distribution such as telegram and maybe their own social media. Yet they are of good quality and some sexy models as well. I don't know if their own social media allows for 18+ content but telegram is certainly more loose with adult content. Since a few days, I have signed up not only for Chinese ones but Thai and other asian channels where I don't even know the letters (certainly not Thai!). But a lot of content are from Chinese speaking countries... What was the app they use for gay hookups? I remember using one long before covid when I visited Beijing briefly but I think they had two versions: one with local numbers and one for foreigners, which had limited use and less users if I remember correctly. What are the popular apps in China?

Porn market of course but I assume the hiring market is also super active given how active the porn market is. It seems like a lot of the videos are circulated within their own social media and telegram groups where memberships can be purchased

It's daily mail but could be worth considering https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14902331/Air-India-crash-pilots-medical-records-examined-mental-health.html

Ok I recently got a Facebook feed about this red uncle saga from China. Apparently some 40yo Chinese guy dressed like a girl and used online dating apps to hook up with some straight men and video recorded all of his encounters and released them online. It is circulating everywhere now. More than 1000 guys hooked up with her and some might have committed suicide. China seems to be enforcing the anti gay propaganda fiercely from now on but when I was searching for the videos I got into many Chinese telegram groups that share porns and I gotta confess, there is a whole another world out there. It makes american porn industry laughable... I am sure the hiring in china is everywhere for locals but our forum doesn't have much info on china. Very interesting revelations. Anyways what do you guys think about Chinese market?

I haven't been to the body scrubs in Japan but I know it exists, yet never understood how it works. I hear it is done by old women in private area. Is anybody familiar with it and can explain the process? Also I really want to try normal massage places where gay guys do it. I don't want full sex or anything but a bit more intimate touches and teases. I know it exists but not sure which ones. Anyone with experience?

I don't speak french or Arabic otherwise have some experience in Morocco and Egypt and would like to explore more

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Not sure if there is a best time for Aquarius because the guys work in shifts so it is different from thermas or Brazilian saunas where boys are free agents. I forgot when the shift change was but I guess you want to go before the shift change if you want to see both shifts. I think they had only two shifts. I forgot the exact number of boys present but should be around 10 or less. But again, I haven't been there for a couple of years. In my recent (nonhiring) visit to Istanbul, I realized that the inflation has been far worse than the currency devaluation so many things got expensive, similar to cheaper western European cities. It really kills a major attraction for the city.

You mean tajik guys work at barber shops in Russia or bashkortostan? In either place, how does it work at a barber shop 😂 I read somewhere long time ago that barber shops in china work likes brothels but never understood thale concept

weirdly i also checked Gambia recently and realized that it is a big market for european females so I got excited but when I checked the wikipedia, the capital city had a very small population, so I am guessing it is not very favourable for us but who knows.

thanks for many helpful tips. which country do they go to do the massage? maybe i can visit those countries first...

While I have very limited exposure to Tajik men, the ones I saw in Europe were quite handsome. So I always wanted to visit but given it is an ex-communist muslim country, I always wondered if I would be able to find some good encounter there. I visited Almaty a few years ago but it was nearly dead in terms of grindr but also I didn't find many sexy guys on street either. Any info from our well travelled members?

Looks like a thick one! You are truly enjoying the life haha

What exactly is splash? Nude party to free guys? Seems to indicate that it is free between 11pm and 3am? And what happens to the customers before 11pm who were hiring or being hired 😂 kick them out?

that is good to hear, at least they know their job to make customers interactive with each other, I find it quite nice. I also understand that it is not possible to have sex with everyone but except for Henrique, every interactive boy I reached out to did not refuse me, or for that matter, they were interacting with everyone who reached out to them. Of course, I noticed a trend that the boys spend more time with certain people, maybe because they are the boy's type, so you can't spend 30 mins with an interactive but that was not really my intention either and I hope people did not imply that from my reviews. Certainly there is a limit to this scene but I find quite appealing to me at least and certainly an insane value given the small fee we pay. I usually would hire someone during the day and head out to these shows later at night, so that might be a good use of it. In the end, I really applauded the interactive boys because they were doing it non-stop for a while. For example, the guy at the Upgrade club in SP literally topped anyone who came near him and after one hour, no one wanted to be topped by him and just wanted to watch. It was a very interesting scene and you gotta admire the attitude and stamina of these boys....

yes I was not very confident initially but after the first visit, I became more confident and I wish I was a bit more upfront/confident from my first visit, which had the best quality in terms of guys. I will have a very pond memory of my visit there after christmas and before new years. It was so hot to watch two super sexy guys do things right in front of me and let me touch them while they are doing it... In Rio, I mostly stayed in Airbnbs and one hotel (I forgot its name, it is not an expensive 5 star hotel, but a large mid range 3-4 star hotel with many rooms). The reception did not even ask me if I was expecting someone when my hire came to the room but luckily I had no safety issues. In SP, I stayed at Canopy by Hilton, and Ibis. Both of them allowed guests without any issues. Canopy had a really nice restaurant and one of the escorts said it was one of the well-known restaurants in the area. He seemed like he wanted me to take him to the restaurant, which I would not have minded if he did his job well but he was just ok so I didn't hire him again. Otherwise, it is a nice restaurant to invite someone you want to spoil without going out of the hotel I didn't explore the cruising scene because I had a feeling that I am not into those guys. Hiring online was very reasonably priced and I could always go to interactive shows for some fun so I didn't want to waste my cum or energy on that. Thinking back, I did feel like the guys in SP were a bit older and more diverse in terms of skin tones and looks compared to Rio. Guys in Rio were relatively younger, mostly tanned skin and mostly fit. But my experience in SP interactive shows is very limited...If I go back to Brazil, I will probably spend more time in SP for hiring, although Rio is a lot more fun beyond hiring.

In general I have a very good memory but certainly can't do this after months. I had it written in January when I was on my long flight back to Europe and never really wanted to publish it for some reason but I was going through my flies yesterday to delete unnecessary files from my laptop so I deleted it after putting it here 😂 maybe someone might find it useful but I realize I should have done it earlier.

Compared to the US maybe, but 200-250e is quite high in Europe, London is like 150-250 pounds

Thought on Brazilian market and comparison to Colombia and Barcelona: Overall, I am just very disappointed with the sauna scene in Rio and SP. Of course, it is cheaper but for someone like me who is taking an expensive business class ticket to Brazil from Europe, it really didnt make a lot of sense. Let's say I pay at least 3000 euros to get there, I can hire 20 top escorts in many european cities for that money so I am not sure if going to Brazil is worth...In that regard, Thermas in Barcelona still provides an amazing value: the rate is fixed at 50e and it never changed throughout the whole inflation period. The quality of the guys is not that bad compared to the top guys at 117 nowadays. It is very easy to get there, compared to going to brazil (this is the major part for me but maybe not true to Americans and Aussies). In terms of online hiring, I have to admit that SP has amazing selections. But it comes with its own hassle of online hiring and safety issues of SP etc. To me, I do like colombian guys a bit more look wise, and I find guys in Bogota slightly cheaper and easier to deal with than SP. Overall these two cities are very comparable in my opinion. I like the food scene in Bogota but I like the brazilians' attitude when I meet with guys. One thing stood out a lot is the interactive show. I don't think anywhere in the world can provide this sort of crazy experience. And it happens for a penny! Overall Brazilians have this amazing attitude toward sex and it is amplified in the interactive shows by the boys. The only downside is the quality of the interactive shows is not up to the level of the top guys in SP online market. But that is understandable. Overall, I think I will hold off any future trips to Brazil for a while unless I have a good reason to go there because the sauna scene is really disappointing these days. What do you guys think in terms of your plans and international comparison?

Online, grindr hiring and massage places Because the reas was quite weak and I really wanted to have a good massage this time, I did hire some massages during this time. I usually do not hire massages outside of asia because they just hide under the name of massage so that they don't have to deliver anything good. Well, that was exactly what these massage places were. Some members here said Solaryun Spa in Copacabana was good, so I gave it a try. My therapist was Vinicius, who claimed to be the owner of the place. First I tried the relaxing massage because I really wanted some good massage. But this was one of the worst massages I ever got in my life. If you read their google review, some people said it was the best massage in their life, so I was not expecting this bad quality. Anyway, some people just do not know what a good massage is like...The spa manager seem to respond to google map reviews, and one of the response was that this place is for tantric massage. So I decided to give it a try for the tantric one because I really like Vinicius body. Overall, the massage was better and especially the body to body part but it is just a hand release. There is no oral or kissing or anything. Of course, no penetration. It is 250, so given the massage skill is kinda bad, there is no point in massage but rather the finishing part becomes what it matters. Then I asked myself, I can probably pay for a normal sex with penetration for 250 when I hire online. So why am I paying so much for this half ass experience? Well, that is my conclusion and you should consider that if you want to go there... I also hired some hot guys from garotolocal for massage if they list it on the ad. Usually most seem to do some sort of massage in nude with a lot of touching and the finishing part varies individually, some would do everything but penetration. Most charged 150-250 but there were some outliers like 400 once. Didn't even hire him. Overall, the massage part is always underwhelming but naked hot guy was always the point...I wouldn't waste much time/cum/money for massage thing again in Brazil. I only looked at garotolocal for online hiring for full sex. I probably should have explored more websites. But the quality of guys there is just impressive, all those sexy guys I used to hire at 177 are now online. Overall, SP had a lot more ads and different looking guys where Rio was the second largest but Rio cannot really match SP in terms of the quality, quantity and diversity of SP guys. Of course, there were a lot of traveling GPs and in fact, the ones I liked in Rio were visiting from SP. I usually send the default message that garotolocal generates for WhatsApp from my local sim WhatsApp number. So my guess is that some of them did not know I was a tourist. So maybe I was not getting too touristy prices but over 90% of the guys I contacted quoted me 300 reas. Simple distribution was: 180, 200, 250, 250, many 300s, then 330, 400, 500. There were only one 400 and one 500. The funny part is that the guy who quoted 500 was not the most impressive looking. I contacted him simply because he didn't have a naked picture on the ad, so I was hoping he had a small one...Anyway, from my experience the price rarely reflects the quality of hiring in this business so I was not surprised. I did pay quite a few 300s and they came to my hotel, which allowed guests without any issues. But sometimes they don't even check their id, so I was a bit worried. In Colombia, they checked everyone's id and I had to call the reception before my guests leave so that the reception knows I was ok with the guest leaving. This was a bit awkward but it seems like Colombians know this well and it worked well for my safety. In Rio, I had one completely empty profile on grindr saying I want a GP. Some people contacted, more so in Rio than SP where I had a shorter time. Overall, there were not many I would be interested in hiring from grindr but I got two 150s and one 200 and one 400. I was not really enthusiastic about hiring someone from grindr but all of them were very insistent. The good thing about grindr is that the guys were closer, just a few hundred meters away. I did hire the guy for 200 because he looked quite nice, well built and nice face, tanned and a typical face from Rio. It seems like he was straight, so first he didn't want to kiss but then when he realized he was not getting hard quickly, he just did everything from rimming me to kissing me with tongue. He was about to be topped because he was not getting hard but after a lot of kissing he got hard lol it was fun as an experience but was not a good sex. Then there was a guy who wanted 150 and he came to me right before I left Rio because I was worried his rate was a bit too low. This is because I prepared myself for the sauna and got nothing, so I got a bit desperate and I finally accepted his insistence, he messaged me at the right moment haha. He was around 175cm tall, no fat, or maybe should I say all of his body fat seemed to have come to his ass...Nice round ass but otherwise very tight muscular body with six pack. Amazing kisser but he also rimmed me, sucked me, licked me all over my body. The finale was so good because his balls were slapping my ass as he got harder and harder before I came...The only bad part is that I resisted so long because his rate was so low and I was a bit worried and I was leaving when I finally had this amazing sex...After the sex, we had some nice chat and he was asking about my plans until I leave but the poor guy didn't know I was leaving next morning...I told him I don't know when I will leave but he kept messaging me ever since. If I met with him earlier, I could have hired him everyday for that price lol Well at least I had one nice experience in Rio as a bottom. So in the end, my best bottom experience was from grindr, my best getting rimmed experience was from an interactive boy and my best experience as a top was also with an interactive boy. Where are the sauna boys???

Hole: There was a special event called Hole, Buttercan informed me about this event and apparently very popular (sold out before the event!) and there was an interactive show so I assumed it would be more fun than Taurus. It was held at a larger venue without locker or shower facilities in Centro. But overall it was more like a club with some actions among guys in the corner. There were certainly some hot guys but many of the hot guys wouldn't be involved in sex and the ones involved seem to be interested in other hot guys. The interactive boys were not really my type and the play was somewhat limited and they were taking photos etc. So overall it was not my scene. Black cat: It is a club/bar in Copacabana, which has a dark room and interactive shows time to time. Again, thanks to Buttercan, I learned about this place. They don't have shower or locker, so people were fully clothed. This was not good for playing...Apparently, on the day when they have the show, it has the show at 2AM. It was quite late and I showed up a bit after midnight and had 2 hours to kill because they have a small darkish room on the ground floor with some actions but the guys were not really my type. Most guys were kinda like middle or upper class snobby but not so good looking or fit guys, maybe some tourists who would fall into the same type? Either way, I waited for the show and it happened at 2:30 instead of 2...Brazilian times...This was actually the worst interactive show. One of the interactive boys was Henrique, who would just outright refuse to be touched or interact with many of the guys there. I was bored so I watched/followed him quite a bit and followed him upstairs. I can see he was outright refusing to interact with many of the guys on the way. What is the point if the interactive boy is not interacting? Almost all interactive guys I saw in the past had this amazing attitude but not this one...After the interactive show, the dark room upstairs opened up. It has two rooms, not completely dark unless you go into the corner of the second room. But the guys on that night were very aggressive. One guy was just following me all night even though I made it clear that I was not into him. When I watching Henrique topping a guy, I was standing next to him. This stalker guy grabbed my hand and put it on Henrique's ass. But then Henrique took my hand off, maybe he didn't like it. This would be absolutely ok with the other interactive boys. Either way, not big deal. Then I went around and there was a small young guy with a nice ass, so I touched him and he reciprocated and started sucking me. He was not a good sucker so I put the condom and started topping him. Guess what, the stalker guy who was following me was next to me and he pulled my dick out. Huh??? I was not happy about this incident so I just left because there was literally no one interesting in the crowd. I never returned to this place again.