DutchDork

Hey, after leaving Marrakesh, arrived in Hurghada on March 28, used a ride share app inDrive to get to Sheraton Rd. About 5 minute ride, cost 100 EGP, about $2 USD, from now on all prices in $, easier for everyone.
Driver about 25, handsome, I told him I'm renting a private apartment at Sheraton Rd, that's the main road at new Hurghada, it is not at the beach but this is where locals live and streets are lively. Anyway, I smiled at him few times, he got the hint, I bluntly offered to blow him. We did in his car, he drive off the main highway to town. Cost 400 EGP, $7.
I had booked a private apartment at Booking com, about 5 minute walk from Sheraton Rd McDonald's, smaller side street. Key in a locker box, no security, not even a front door to enter the stairway, nice and private, it seemed.
Apartment was nice enough, $20 per night, I only booked for 1 night, although I'm planning to stay in Hurghada 2 weeks. I ran in and out of the apartment several times, bought bottle of gin, then some other stuff, maybe in and out 3 times since arrived. Never saw anyone in the building, my apartment on 4th floor.
Now things get interesting. Sat next to a local guy at Sheraton Rd bench, there are several benches, from McDonald's down the street, many local guys are sitting around, sitting is free and they always ask for a cigarette. I bought a pack just to share, it's a good way to start conversation.
So in about 15 minutes I spoke to a guy, handsome enough, maybe 25, I said I have a private place, we walked to my building. And then suddenly there is a stranger, just a guy, a local, asking my guest something in Arabic, loud tone, shouting almost, looking almost angry. I had no clue who this guy is, but my guest spoke to him in Arabic, and told me in English that guest is not allowed in a building. I called my host, apartment owner in WhatsApp, we had spoken earlier about building location. He told me no guest is allowed. I replied, this is my home, I rented a full apartment from him, and my guest is my friend. NO! No guest allowed. 
So he suggested he knows a quiet place, few minutes taxi ride, we took a taxi, not far, a construction site with no fence, no staff, it was dark by then. I blew him, guy was super hot, wanted to fuck me, I declined, but he really enjoyed to bj, so did I, 600 EGP, $11. When I gave him the money, he was protesting, saying this is not enough even though we had agreed on this before. This is the usual song and dance in Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt. So I just ignored it and he gave up.
We took a taxi back, to the center, I walked around a bit, everywhere in the center local guys make eye contact, usually offering all kinds of substances. 
Later on I spoke to another guy, agreed on the money and we walked to a closed shop front, he had a key, a b,j again. Very handsome guy, maybe 25. I liked it very much. Arab straight guys are fairly aggressive during bj , not shy at all and I like it, it's almost never disappointing.
But what is a big disappointment is the situation with my so called private apartment. No guests. Just like ever hotel, except nowhere does it state this while you are booking the place. Contrary, booking site says 'private apartment with a private entrance'.
So I'm writing this next morning, I'm checking out, looking at other places in the neighborhood. The whole point of not staying in a hotel is privacy of apartment, without it there are downsides, no security, noise from the street all night. Thinking if I should fuck this host a claim a refund, not sure but seems unfair to misrepresent the booking conditions.
I'll stay in Hurghada, kõik for another place, see how it goes, will update, hopefully later tonight.
Btw, I am new here, but long time poster at Sawadteenetwork, nicks Whitemouse and Doubledutch,  met several members from there after spending last 10 years in Pattaya, staying 6 months every winter. Tried to register at gay-thailand here, ages ago, never heard from Admin and could not post. 

This is the McDonald's, streets are quiet in the morning.
The benches are running along this side of Sheraton Rd for few hundred meters, in the evening and at night very busy, a guys, all about 25 - 30 age. You can simply sit down, some of them say hello, most will ask for a cigarette. These guys seem to be hustlers, they are smooth talkers, they certainly know I want. There are not many white guys wondering around alone.
Last night one guy I spoke to asked 3000 EGP lol, that's around $60. So you politely end the conversation, no point negotiating when this guy's negotiation start in Stratosphere.
The going rate seems to be 600 EGP, one guy asked 400 last night, $7. He was slightly chubby but I like skinny.
These benches are good place to hang out at night, this whole area is busy.
Thank you, Connor2025 for your Hurghada post from last year, very helpful.

As I just recently read, he isn't sharing these men for free. The cost is 300 Euros for a list of 20 WhatsApp numbers of these people. 

I hope you're getting tested and know your status. Those young boys are already dealt with a hard life to the point they'll risk their health for extra cash. 

I hope you're getting tested and know your status. Those young boys are already dealt with a hard life to the point they'll risk their health for extra cash. 

I'd love to try these African guys, too. However, I'm worried, since HIV rates are so high from where they came from. Are they okay with using condoms? Also, I read somewhere that most of them are scammers. Any tips on how to spot and avoid them?

Yet you were advised to go to the church lady venue. This venue is unique relative to bathhouses in general because they will supply condoms at an added charge, by default, a pre-established public health value, if you forget to indicate you brought your own supply. They obviously understand logical reasons for rejecting condoms but view such a stance as a less valid and less consistent principle. 
The garotos de programa happily pick up said condoms when placed by the room key, or acknowledge that I already have them on hand. They glance at me knowingly without explicitly indicating that I give off church lady vibes. In fact, all customers are equally categorized as church ladies. In any case, the trade similarly appears to be comprised of church ladies above all, appearing content with the messaging that condoms will be integrated into the choreography, even if some can be talked out of mass and into condomless communion, going against the grain of church lady preference. 
By all means, however, do try a label burn if you perceive any degree of resistance to the notion that they will be better off performing condomless sex. I think that ‘church lady’ would be lost in translation. The club’s zeitgeist is church lady central, the meta-message complete endorsement of protected sex, so if you openly verbally ascribe to a hot sex worker that they are an uptight skittish bitch for preferring to protect wellbeing, do be prepared for the consequences. 
In sum, other venues may be a better option if you prefer greater ease in transcending the hurdles imposed by a worldview that supports suppression of complex viral and bacterial disease for both you and working guys. 

he is not your type or his expected fee is not your type? please clarify

It is indeed JOEY! Do you mind sharing his Youtube channel, Riobard?

I've not checked my secondary Facebook account that I only use to follow massage places and boy bars. I did today and saw this video posted by Moonlight. This guy is not typically the kind I like, but for some reason he appeals a lot to me. I'm curious if anyone of you had taken him back to your hotel room or had sat down and bought him a drink at Moonlight. Is he gay or straight? Does he go with gay clients? Top or bottom? I'd appreciate any information, friends. 
 

I've not checked my secondary Facebook account that I only use to follow massage places and boy bars. I did today and saw this video posted by Moonlight. This guy is not typically the kind I like, but for some reason he appeals a lot to me. I'm curious if anyone of you had taken him back to your hotel room or had sat down and bought him a drink at Moonlight. Is he gay or straight? Does he go with gay clients? Top or bottom? I'd appreciate any information, friends. 
 

Cute. Seriously trains at FitWhey afternoons. Very fluent English judging by socials including YouTube channel. 

His nick is Jacky.
As for going with guys all I know is what spoon said above - girls only but I'd advice to buy him a drink and ask  him or at least two different mamasans on two different visits.
Why ? Last year I was informed by mamasan  guy I'm eyeing is girls only. Yet on next visit another mamasan was trying me to off the same guy. Did not materialize but occasionally mamasans have their own agendas so always talk to the source i.e. guy.
As for Jacky above I can add , girls only or not , on my two last visits in bar there was no visible girls presence in the audience and still he was all smiles and seemed to pay attention  to guys  seating. Certainly he will be happy to use a drink or two

I've not checked my secondary Facebook account that I only use to follow massage places and boy bars. I did today and saw this video posted by Moonlight. This guy is not typically the kind I like, but for some reason he appeals a lot to me. I'm curious if anyone of you had taken him back to your hotel room or had sat down and bought him a drink at Moonlight. Is he gay or straight? Does he go with gay clients? Top or bottom? I'd appreciate any information, friends. 
 

I've not checked my secondary Facebook account that I only use to follow massage places and boy bars. I did today and saw this video posted by Moonlight. This guy is not typically the kind I like, but for some reason he appeals a lot to me. I'm curious if anyone of you had taken him back to your hotel room or had sat down and bought him a drink at Moonlight. Is he gay or straight? Does he go with gay clients? Top or bottom? I'd appreciate any information, friends. 
 

Thai indian str8 who only goes with women as of July this year. If thats still the case... Im not sure.

I've not checked my secondary Facebook account that I only use to follow massage places and boy bars. I did today and saw this video posted by Moonlight. This guy is not typically the kind I like, but for some reason he appeals a lot to me. I'm curious if anyone of you had taken him back to your hotel room or had sat down and bought him a drink at Moonlight. Is he gay or straight? Does he go with gay clients? Top or bottom? I'd appreciate any information, friends. 
 

I will say that the selection of guys on the sites are better in Madrid. But Thermas is such a different experience from other scenes. 

In most of the world, everyone is a bottom, especially all the vers guys, lol

As a bottom, is so difficult to find a good top on the apps... gay for pay in latin America isn't soo hard, but still, bottoms outnumber tops by a lot in the gay world.

was good, gotta pay for drinks as you buy them, which is  a pain in the ass, not at the end like everywhere else.

Last 2 times I went was good, last week went to a different place out that way Tapa_na_cara_24 is their Instagram, was packed and I liked 11 of the 12 guys that I saw there, real ghetto

How much is Manny charging for himself and the guys these days?

How much is Manny charging for himself and the guys these days?

Hey buddy. I’m going to SD Oct. 30. Would you be able to connect me with your Twitter guys? At BiDLDaddy1

10 inches Filipino dick? 🤣

https://www.doctork.nyc/blog/2017/5/28/smarter-fellatio#:~:text=DO rinse your mouth with,or after performing oral sex. 
https://www.webmd.com/oral-health/news/20161220/mouthwash-helps-kill-gonorrhea-germs-in-mouth-throat-study 
Not sure if they are reliable, but good to read as well.