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Such a shame that Kaohsiung was stripped off the right to host the World Pride in 2025. It's a beautiful city and it would had attracted crowds from all over Asia, much more than Sydney did (even though the crowd was amazing there and I had so much in every way). I have been to the last three editions of the world pride (NYC, Copenhagen and Malmo) but not sure if I want to go to the one in Washington DC in 2025, probably will go the one in Amsterdam one year later. Hopefully they assign it to Bangkok in 2028 as I'm sure the crowd will be great but that it still 5 years away.

I went to the Babylon's foams party for Songran a few years ago. Really crowded. there was a line outside to get in. R3 also had foam parties during the same period and I would say they were equally good. The venue at R3 was smaller so there was not much space to move but that made touching guys way easier. Never been to Chakran. I'll be going to BKK next week and might want to check it out. Any day/time you recommend? How often do they their foam parties. If I remember correctly, Babylon's used to have a monthly cadence. Both people in this forum and the reviews I'm reading online say that's not really farang-friendly. What's your personal experience?

One hour is a bit too short of a timeframe. I forgot to add regarding Hutong sauna some people mentioning that before Covid they used to have something called doorless nights, where all the door's rooms couldn't be closed for 6PM to 9PM. Not sure if they have restarted having them now. their website doesn't mention it.

I'm not that familiar with bars that offer sex shows, but if you just want to see guys doing I would also suggest going to the R3 sauna during their O-party nights. the sauna hires a couple of performs who first put some kind of a sex show for around 20-25 minutes, albeit not that good imo, and then everybody goes up one floor in this big room and performs start doing it with the sauna customers. It's quite the show even if you just want to watch and you don't have to pay extra if any of the performers wants to have sex with you. So from a purely financial perspective, it's probably the best choice. Sauna Mania in Silom does kinda the same thing, as they are both owned by the same guy. However, they didn't put a show during Xmas/NYE but had a foam party instead which lasted almost two hours and the performers were messing around with customers and among themselves this whole time.

yeah, my bad. I used an incorrect term. I guess I wanted to say potato queen. Looks like you can't edit your post in here.

I'll be heading to Hong Kong in two weeks. Have only been there once in 2014, though I stayed for a good amount of time. Quite excited to go back as I really had a great in there. My first time I went to around 5 different saunas, though I remember the name of just three of them. Based on that experience and doing some research on different websites, I'm listing the names ana d a description of some of the numerous (probably one of the highest in Asia) gay saunas in Hong Kong: Central Escalator (HK island) - remembering reading so much about this sauna before heading to HK the first time. It was supposed to be the place where the young rice queens of HK would hang out. However, got pretty disappointed when I visited. It's quite small and it was almost all elder guys, both Westerns and locals. Remembering leaving after only 20-25 minutes. Still see positive reviews about it online but I think I'll skip it this time. Hutong (Kowloon) - this was described as the best sauna of HK where the young and beautiful would go on weekends and it really was. Had a blast both times I went there. The guys were young and hot and would get pretty wild in the dark corners. It had the reputation of refusing entrance to old or out-of-shape guys. However I read in a personal blog that from 2016 or so they stopped doing that as they actually wanted to maximize their profit. Having a more mixed crowd left some of the younger guys unhappy and they started heading to other saunas like Big Top (now closed and My Way Sauna which also offered big discount to younger guys. Looks like the competition made Hutong also match that discount as the price for guys U-27 is only 55HKD and for those U-33 only 99HKD. The reviews say that the crowd is still good on weekends, so I plan to go there at least once. they don't have any theme night. Chaps (HK island) - I remember it was a cute two-floors high sauna mostly frequented by young professionals, so mostly guys in their early 30s. Read that now it's just one floor and continues to attract the same crowd. I think I'll skip this time. My Way (HK Island) - seems to be the favorite sauna for young twinks as guys u-28 pay only 50HKD. They have theme nights every night and seems like naked Sundays are really popular. However, different sites agree that there is a big sticky rice vibe in there even though they don't refuse entrance to foreigners. Planning to go at least once, at least just for the eye candy, though I should be prepared for rejections. Gateway (HK Island) - the reviews praise the level of facilities and its cleanness a lot. Seems to have a very mixed crowd when it comes to age and foreigners are warmly welcomed. No theme nights. Plan to go at least once. Soda (HK Island) - this one has to have the most opposing reviews I have encountered. A lot say it has the biggest dark room in HK and it's clean, others say it's small and describe it as dirty (there were mentions of people getting beaten by bedbugs). Most agree that it attracts a large enough crowd, including young people. There are also a few strange reviews about the behavior of the owner towards white guys. Seems like he is a bit of a rice queen and kind hits on most of the white guys going to the saunas and gets quite unhappy when getting refused. He and his staff then gets quite towards the guy. Same behavior applies also to the Asian guys that meet the white guy and some say he even refuses entrance to locals he knows are into white guys. People say also there are security cameras in the cruising areas. Undecided for now if I will go once or not. Colony, Galaxy and QQ - three saunas that attract mostly older guys. Planning to skip. If anyone of you guys have been to these saunas or have heard about it, feel free to add your review. I plan to write a follow-up post after my trip. @PeterRS @Marc in Calif or others that have been there lately, what app do you recommend using from: Grindr, Blued, Jackd and Hornet?

Glad to hear you enjoyed your time in Taiwan @vaughnAs most of the people in these post said, it's truly an amazing place to visit. Most of the local people go to Soi13 between 6:30-7:30PM as that can get it for only 300NTD and yes Saturday is the busiest night. They apply the same discount from 12:00-1:00 AM, so probably the crowd might bet bigger late at night. Not sure if you have to pay again if you want to enter again later, my local friend said you can go out and get in.I never made it past 11:00PM in there. I get completely drained. I didn't go to the sauna in Taichung but kinda had the same experience as you in the Kaohsiung one. Went on Friday and there were only 15-20 people, mostly old but then on Saturday there were around 40-50 people with many young twinks. ended up messing with three different guys. I'll be in HK in two weeks so will create a post in the coming days about the different saunas in there that I know from my previous visit in there and from doing research online. HK has one of the highest numbers of gay saunas for a city not just in Asia, but probably in the whole word so picking which one to go to can be tricky. I would still encourage you to consider visiting Taipei again during pride. If you thought Soi13 was busy on a normal weekend you would be in awe during that period. There are at least #X more people. It's really incredible. Plus you can treat yourself to so much eye candy just by strolling the streets of Ximen and other areas of Taipei.

I talked to this African guy last year: https://twitter.com/top_stallion?s=20. I asked him if he wanted to join me and one of my Thai fwb in action. I was a bit surprised when he told me he was a mb. I like the videos on his Twitter profile, though I don't think the bottoms are his actual customers, as they are all young twinks who I would say don't have the need to pay. Didn't ask about rates, as I don't really do transactional sex, but if he is your type shoot him a message on line. He replied pretty fast.

Marc, did you also go to any sauna in HK while there? Not sure if they were opened in 2022.

Well, I've only went one night at white party this year and there was no action pretty much. Trying again with the XXO party in May. It's a combination of a circuit party/gay cruise but defintely I'm expecting the same level of public lewdness as in in Atlantis cruise😁

What does GP means? gay saunas? You can find a list here https://www.travelgay.com/gay-saunas-and-cruise-clubs/, though I would say the list is not exhaustive.

you are right. I just saw the copyright and it says 1991. The chapter about Bangkok opened up with a description of Babylon, so I thought it was more recent than that. It definitely has a great historical value as probably describes attitudes, places and customs that are much different from today. I'm sure the book would have felt so exotic in the eyes of the readers of the early 90s when there was no internet and it was difficult to find information about gay life and venues even in a city nearby, let alone around the world.

and that's just the version of Line avaiable outside Asia, but in certain is much more than simple messaging app. It's what is called a SuperApp, similar to WeChat in China. You can use Line to pay for things, to order things online, to watch TV, to play games, etc, etc.

You can add people in Line with just phone number if that's what you are looking for, though most people use the Line ID or the QR code. I definitely prefer Line over Whatsapp, even if just for their endless stickers. I go from time to time to their store in LA (there is always a large number of Asian twinks roaming that place) One thing to keep in mind if you are using Line. It stores the videos and photos other people send you just for two weeks, unless you explicitly save them. Lost a good number of videos from this hot Thai twink and his encounters with farangs in Bangkok, when I first started using Line.

Hopefully not too suddenly as to hurt the boy. These kind of interruptions are such a bone killer for me.

Has anyone read this book? There are two chapters dedicated Bangkok. It's was published more than 10 years ago, before the advent of apps, so the descriptions might sound outdated, but I wonder if it's worth reading it: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1766042.Out_in_the_World

I stayed at a small hotel near Glorietta last year. Some of the guys went through check-in and some didn't. I guess it depended on the hour. Not sure how is the situation at a bigger hotel. Maybe if you go pick them up at the entrance and pass through security together, they don't have to show their ID. In Puerto Princessa, i stayed at Hue Hotel and all the guys went straight to my room. Surprisingly though, none of the Filipino guys complained about. It's mostly in Vietnam where some guys were not happy I was staying at an hotel and that they had to go through reception.

Not really, though it's true that knowing Mandarin might lead sometimes to a higher success rate cause if you start a conversation in local language the guy might be less shy. Overall, It's mostly a game of glances and touches. If there is a match most guys know top or bottom, or you can just use hands to mimic 1(top) or 0(bottom) as these are the terms used in some Asian countries to refer to the sexual position. Sometimes guys starts speaking and explaining themselves in Mandarin when they don't want to go with you, so I guess knowing the language helps learning why you are getting refused 😄

Never had the issue with the guy having to show his ID at the reception in Thailand. I know it happens in some high end hotels like Mandarin Oriental but I have mostly encountered that in Vietnam when traveling to Asia. Airbnb offers more space for your money and usually more privacy though I like to stay in hotels popular with gays and watch sometimes who is bring up whom or just walk the halls and hear those unequivocable noises. The biggest drawback of most Airbnbs I would say is the lack of daily housekeeping. You definitely want new towels and bedsheets if you plan to average a high daily number of guys as the traces of your sluttiness starts becoming too evident.. The guys for sure will notice and tell you, even if at the end they will still end up having sex with you.

They are definitely not my cup of tea but kudos to Thais for dominating and almost monopolizing this type of gay entertainment in Asia. This event, the White party, the Circuit Festival and the XX) attract large paying crowds and have fans even in this forum. I was talking with a Taiwanese friend while visiting Sydney for pride and wondering why Taipei that hosts a nig gay pride, which is the perfect anchor for this type of events, lacks any major gay party.

In a lot of hotels, the guy can go straight up to your room. At the airbnbs I stayed in Bangkok, you had to go pick him up downstairs. Not the best, if you are trying to have a threesome or more, as you have to leave on waiting in your place while you go down to pick up the other.

When are you planning to go? I think I'm going there around mid-May. if you go before then, please drop a report in here about the saunas and apps in there. It definitely used to be. it had much more advanced functionalities when I first start using it around 2017, like you could video callings and live streaming, something Grindr is still missing. Didn't know about their partnership with Hornet. I know hornet was founded in HK, though I think now is based in the USA, if I'm not mistaken. anyway, the amounts of ads on a free account in Blued is too much to make it useful

Though there are guys that are only into younger or older, I think for most Taiwanese age is not the main factor. I would say that would be body shape. If you are tall, have muscles or a wide chest or are well-equipped down there in case you're a top, you will definitely get some attention. From what I have seen at Soi13, tall and in shape foreign guys between 45-55 score really high with the young local twinks. It's also true though that every time I go to soi 13 I see at least 2-3 old white guys (70s and older) and not particularly in shape. Not sure if they are in there just to gaze their eyes in that hot sea of flesh or they actually get to have some action, but you can definitely find them there every weekend.

Yes, I've been. I mention it to the creator of this post in my first reply. It's popular especially on Fridays and Sundays. It can definitely be fun with lost of touching, making out and you can even get serviced orally. Mixed crowd, with a good amount of twinks and muscular guys. However, the dark room is pretty small and it gets crowded really fast. For pride, if you go even after 10:30-11:00 you would have to wait in line for a good amount of time in order to enter and the place gets so packed you can barely move. Overall, my first choice is still Soi13 as I prefer to play on a bed but the Hunt for those nights when you just want to have some light fun. Fun fact: There is even a scene in this movie (the classical Chinese book retold with gay characters and with events taking part in modern Taipei) that takes part at the Hunt. The actual scene was on Youtube but looks like the video is private now.

I noticed a drop of users and engagement with Hornet. It used to be even busier than Grindr before Covid and not just in Taiwan, but also in Thailand and other Asian countries. I don't think it's even worth paying the premium version right now. Didn't try Blued, as that app has so many ads you would need to pay for premium to make really use of it. Was planning to checkout Jack'd after a 5-years break, but with guys from Grindr, the sauna and people I already know in Taipei, I got pretty busy. Glad to see its active. Will give a try when I'm there in May. Wonder if it's the same situation in HK, though I suspect Blued would be #1 in there.