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No problem. I always get blasted when I talk about this again but hell, it has been a long weekend anyway. Other than a few escorts, I spent more time with the Hooboy than anyone on these message boards. We spent time together on 4 different continents and in a variety of places. We had a blast together. Hooboy ran the Male4Male Escort Review site which split off into this site and Daddy's site after his death. During its peak, Hooboy was making a great deal of money from many sources. When I owned an escort agency in NYC, I paid handsomely for banners on his site but so did many others. When he convinced me to retire and start traveling more, we spent a great deal of time with finances and he was making well over 20k per month from one vendor alone. That was the reason when he died that so many people were so interested in trying to take his site away from his estate without the knowledge of the family. It would have been easy to do had I not interfered and offered a tremendous amount of money to the executor of his estate. I offered it as I knew I would get a good return on my investment. Daddy and I both started sites after Hoo died but neither have been the same as the original site. Hoo's was the best and made the most amount of money. But, even during its heyday, Hoo would ask for donations. I am not sure why he did that but it was something that many people wanted to do. Once they found out they had been duped all those years, many left with a very bad taste in their mouth for donations to any site. Understandably. I do not know how much Daddy makes. It is not my business and I do not care. But, many of the old timers know what these donations are often used for and prefer not to give. However, I have the opposite advice. If you get value from his site and you wish to pay him for his services, please help him. I think it is good use of money. Do not consider it a donation as much as a present. If you look at it that way, you will not be upset in the end. For many on these sites, money is no issue and they do not mind helping out the owner of the site. That is very thoughtful and should not make anyone feel bad for donating. Please give to him if you have the ability and want his site to continue but don't think it is a donation to a charity case as much of a gift for someone to live a live they enjoy. While you are at it, I am really in need as well. I saw Justin Beiber and Orlando Bloom were in Ibizia. I'd love to go there but the ticket is 9,000 (business of course) and my hotel is 1k per night. 12 nights would be sufficient for me to have a good time and recuperate from my surgery this week. (yes I had surgery and can provide proof of that for any party interested in making a donation) However, I can't provide receipts of the 21k as I might spend a bit of that on a few escorts being the whore that I am. Please send this money to $#%^@#$^$#@mac.com Western Union OK. Paypal OK. CC OK. Cash better. USD or Euro only.

Are you fucking insane?

Holy shit. Not this conversation again?

Why do I pay 5 USD for a Starbucks Coffee everyday when I know it is way overpriced?

I learned that although I have vision problems, my eyesight is much better than a teenage girl driving her parents car for the first time. One lane. Two lanes. Three lands. Four lanes. They are all the same to her!

Totally agree and loved the ending. Very appropriate. I did think the show was a bit dark at times but wow, the actors did a great job and the story was excellent. This season did not disappoint.

I could not agree more! I know he cares.

You are welcome! I am always happy to help when I can.

cory, the big difference between what you said and actual reality is that this board is moderated and when people violate the rules to a level we feel meets the standard of being booted off, they are. It has been done time and time again over the years. However, that does not mean that you with 11 posts gets to determine where that line is drawn. Moderation is always to be done in a cool temper and even handed. We do that here. Perhaps you are use to something more heavy handed and that is fine. But, often times when someone tries to get a moderator to boot someone out, they try to bully the moderator into bending to THEIR will. In other words, they bully the mod to get the bully out. Insane right? So, here at boytoy, we have a procedure in place for members who participate to boot out any member they don't want here. I guess the fact that it is not used to boot out who you personally want to get booted out or can bully to get your way means that it is a flawed system. On the contrary, that makes the system work well. Read the thread in this forum called: Community Comity Commission (CCC). But, in order for that to work, that means you will need a majority of active posters to agree with you. I do not believe you have those numbers.

Yes, and it is a shame that with such a great party that you let one or two guys stop you from having a good time.

Several years back, I lived in Thailand in a beautiful 5 bedroom house with a huge swimming pool next door to the ocean. I love it and I filled each of the 5 room with beautiful Thai boys who were there with me day and night. It was a very fun year and I am still friends with those boys and 2 of them are still living with me now many years later. I wanted to throw parties and have fun and I did. I threw the most amazing parties with tons of booze, good music and great food. My parties were famous for being the gay events to attend. There were a few groups of people in the city that I was friends with. One group hated some other gay men in the area. As I am the friendly sort, I was able to be friends with both groups. At a party I was having to celebrate the King's Birthday in Thailand and no bars are open and no liquor can be sold in the stores that day, my pantry was full and the party was going to be filled with over 70 of the hottest gogo boys you could imagine as many were friends of the boys living in my humble abode. The party quickly grew in gossip and everyone wanted to attend. I invited them all as I really wanted everyone to have a great time that night. Finally, my best friend in the city said that he hated one guy so much that he would not be going to the party unless he knew that the guy was not invited. Now, that guy he hated was hard to take, very boisterous and pretty damn controversial in the city. He even pissed me off from time to time on the message boards by spreading gossip. But, I loved hanging out with him. He was great fun and all my boys loved him as he treated them with kindness and they loved his goofy demeanor. My best friend threw down the gauntlet and demanded that I now cater to his need to have this guy uninvited. I thought about it and finally I decided it was not a road I was willing to take. I told my best friend that I care about him but I was not going to play games with inviting and uninviting people to the party. He said that he would not be there and that his friends would not come either. I said OK and that was no problem for me. The party was really for the Thai boys to have fun and they did. The foreigners that did come had a blast and to this day tell me when I see them about the amazing parties they have in their memory. My best friend, well we are no longer friends. He did not like that I "chose" someone else over him and I did not like being put into an uncomfortable position. Parties are supposed to be great events. My house was huge and would have been very easy to avoid one guy when over 200 were in attendance and more than 80 percent were hot sexy boys. But, my mother always told me something good when I was a kid and we were having a small party for family and friends. A similar situation arose. She said to my cousin, "don't ask me to choose between you and someone else. As much as I love you, I'd always end up choosing the person who didn't ask me to do that." That has stuck in my memory all these years and perhaps that is the main reason I love to have parties and invite many and let them all decide if they wish to attend the party. For those that don't want to attend, I am saddened but life goes on. For those that wish to attend, I can promise a good time and good conversation and good food.

And, a very interesting and old interview with the master himself.

I have also finished the 6 episodes. I enjoyed it.

I think that lady needs a fuck more than anyone I have ever seen!

Amsterdam is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. I love it there! And, their gay pride is like no other. Have fun and enjoy if you are there. I'd love some photos you take if you have time.

The Killing was cancelled and then brought back to wrap up the series for 6 episodes. I just started watching this. So far, as usual, it is great acting and very dark characters. But, a real treat to see.

No Steven, this is not manipulating anyone's opinion. There is a reason that you have gone off so oddly in the 2 threads in question. I do not know your reason. Only you do. But, it isn't fair to say that I tried to manipulate anything as I have not done so. By leaving this and other threads in tact, the record shows the history of the threads and intelligent readers can then determine what they think the intent is or was behind each post. They may decide that you were insane or that I was being a manipulating dickwad. But, that is up for them to determine based on the posts in question. I do not see evil in everything you post. In the two threads in question, I do see an agenda. Whether or not that agenda got what you wished or not, is only for you to determine. I found it all very odd myself. Hopefully, both threads will die down but it won't be because I stiffed the discussion. I am always happy to discuss anything in private with you. That being said. When I discuss things in private, I expect them to stay in private as opposed to bits and tidbits being posted on a message board and then saying I can't discuss them further as it was private. In other words, you saying that 2 posters left the site based on a discussion and then saying oh, I can't discuss that was that would violate privacy. I am not sure where you draw a privacy line but I would say the first mention of it crossed the line. Thus, why some conversations are often better kept in the public forum for others to see.

Actually Steven, you bring the discussion that was happening into another thread over to this one was the reason this thread was started. Let me explain the software. There is a button on Invision Forum (what this forum uses as code) that allows mods to split or delete topics or even move posts and threads to other forums. As you had gone off the original topic, it was decided that the best way to keep the posts that were off topic was to move all the ones that were not related to the original topic. When this was done, I think it was about 40 or so posts that were moved. Your post was the first post that went off topic. When a new thread was started with all of the off topic posts, a new title had to be named. Instead of calling it, Steven Draker Goes Off Topic to Reek Havoc, it was named venom and poop based on the contents in the thread. This gives reasonable people the ability to decide if they wish to wade through the shit inside the thread, many of which you and I piled on. While I realize that someone who has an agenda would not want his posts moved to a new thread. The fact is your posts were not deleted or manipulated in any way. They were left in tack for others to see and discuss. Isn't that a good thing? Perhaps, you would prefer the threads to be closed? Ain't going to happen no matter how much you or someone else hits throws up the red flag. At some point, they made be closed but the record will stay in tack. Why? We don't willy nilly go about closing and deleting posters content on this site. Even if that was the intent of the person who started a thread or the person who keeps trying to push things over the top to get them closed. Intentions are often wasted when adults are allowed to openly discuss things. I find the discussion childish. But, that is not a reason to close it or delete it. Be a child as much as you want. I find that even I got into the dirt box to play with you from time to time. It is because I like you and I want everyone to know that even when someone bullies and pushes and protests, they don't get what they want all the time. Keep going in this thread or don't. But, don't for one second think I manipulated anything. It was you who was trying to manipulate something. It failed and now you want to whine and cry about it.

I heard that Leo cheered Bloom for taking a swing. IMHO, that is two divas ganging up on a wanna be gansta. That is not fair IMHO. And, what the fuck were all these guys doing in Ibizia?

Threads need to stay on topic. This one was about the record. The majority of posts were unrelated and moved. All posts were moved. None were deleted. None were edited. They were moved into a separate thread. Have at it there.

Wow. Over 400 views on this thread. That is wonderful! Keep up the great work guys! I bet you all came here as you saw hitoalluse and thought he posted a pic of some amazing fashion?

As this thread seems to have taken on a life of its own, we have moved it to a new thread. It maybe should have been combined with the other Daddy thread but that would have been pretty confusing to all. Open to thread title name changes. Let me know your thoughts. Venon and poop was decided as Steven's first post said venon and poop photos were in abundance.

Your bullshit is totally over the top. You state the 2 posters have left because of a thread. When questioned about it, you say that you can't reveal private information. Are you so far lost that you don't see that you did reveal that info in the thread you posted about the 2 people? Or, you just made it up and have decided to stick to the story you created in your mind? Bill Clinton: I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Repeat it over and over and some will believe you. But, only those that are stupid will and do you really want those to believe you anyway?

Look, every time there is a meltdown on the other site, one escort or poster comes over here to decry how horrible we are to not be more supportive and to stir the pot. The first time this happened was when the site started. The escort in question revealed things on the site that he got from admins of another site. It may have just been coincidence that he decided to post them here but the ending result was new posters would see the passion that many on the site have about both sites. The same thing happened during the great meltdown. The same thing is happening now with one poster trying this darnedest to stir the pot and constantly keep bring up things so that the threads progress in a negative way. I'll call this the Karl Rove of the escort boards. Why? The playbook is always the same. The results are always the same. Maybe I am over reading things. But, when a duck walks like a duck and has web feet and a bill, I often think it is a duck.

You don't address them but you start the rumors about them? I see. That does explain a lot right there doesn't it?