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I am done with this show. I'll never watch it again. (most likely)

How do you keep in touch with your boy special or boyfriend? How often do you do this? For me, he sends me email ever few days and we talked 2-3 times each week. I enjoy hearing his voice if it is only 15 minutes. He also catches me up on all the family and friends. He also sends me photos once a week or more as he knows I like seeing him when I am not in Thailand so he takes photos at his work or at his home. It makes me happy to see these and keeps him in my memory a bit better. I do use Skype to talk to him but not the video call as he is on a cell phone. How often to you chat with the BF when you are away from LOS?

Is this the same group that advertised on this site for a while? Or, are they 2 different massage places in same area with Candle in them?

I can't remember the name of this place, but I think it is one of the massage places around the area of the Marriott Executive Apartments. If so, I went there one time and had a great massage. I didn't go back as I was also very close to Soi Convent and one massage house on Convent has a larger selection of guys. One thing I will say about this area is it is full of male massage places. From what I remember, this place was quite nice and enjoyable but on my next trip, I'll be staying in this area again and will try to take a few photos of the building and the rooms and area.

How are they with older farangs? It is friendly? Do younger Thais go there or mostly older Thais?

When I was staying in Sathorn, I went there several times and always found some guys who gave good massages, good Happy Endings and I thought the place was clean and fine to use. It was much easier for me in this area to go to than Hero across town esp. during the early evening and that is often when I want a massage.

I have never used Agoda but I will try it as well. I grew up knowing one booking site for mass searches and that was Expedia. Old habits are hard to break. I have used it for as long as I can remember. I never really ventured into other sites for hotels, cars, etc. But, I am willing to try Agoda as I have heard great things about it.

Last week, 49ers safety Chris Culliver was lampooned for his disembodied apology after claiming his homophobic rant during a radio interview on Super Bowl media day had no connection to the values he holds in his heart. And yet, somehow an Alabama high school teacher and coach has made the same non-apology for another rant -- only this anti-gay diatribe was in front of students and included a disrespectful reference to the First Lady as "fat butt Michelle Obama." Bob Grisham, who is a psychology teacher and football coach Lauderdale County High School in Rogersville, Ala., has been suspended for 10 days without pay and must attend sensitivity training. He explained his one minute and 24 second rant by telling the local newspaper, "I misspoke in a debate-type situation. I have no hatred toward anyone or any group. People that know my heart, they know that." You have to admit, it was a far superior non-apology to the more transparent, "I'm sorry if anyone was offended." What puts Grisham's comments in a different universe from Culliver's? He expressed his venom in an educational setting, in the role of a teacher. So let's take a look at some of the values this coach is passing along. Forget showing respect for authority, or women, or women in positions of authority. The First Lady, an attorney by trade, has made nutrition her signature effort, and installed a vegetable garden at the White House. And yet she can be openly ridiculed because of her body. That's a horrible message to send to the girls assigned to Grisham's psychology class. And as a psychology teacher, Grisham should be aware that adolescent girls often wrestle with their body image. And, at its worst, that struggle can devolve into eating disorders. His remarks only reinforce the notion that, yes, you are being judged on your size young ladies. That would be bad enough. But Grisham is also sending the message to young men that it's fine to see women as a compilation of their parts and dismiss a woman's accomplishments because of ankles – a critique Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had to endure – or some other physical characteristic. Women in power are not there to be your eye candy, even if those dismissive comments are cloaked in the context of health. Students follow the lead of their teacher, just like one of the students did when he echoed Grisham's remarks on Obama by comparing her to an animal, which evokes America's ugly history of racial discrimination. Despite that, Grisham doesn't back away from his opinions in the tape, but tells the students he'd say the same to the principal. But Grisham, who led the football team to a 12-2 record this season, didn't just offend on the basis of race and gender, he also takes a swipe at sexual identity. Sometimes I hear young people talk about how difficult the decision was to tell friends and parents they are gay, and I think to myself it must be getting easier given the changing attitudes. Gays are now accepted in the military and legally allowed to marry in an increasing number of states. But if Grisham's opinions were expressed in front of a student who is having that internal dialog, it undermines that social progress. More seriously, the state of Alabama has often ranked near the bottom nationally when it comes to student performance. That number has gone up, but Grisham doesn't represent Alabama coaches and educators well. The school district made the right move when it removed him from his psychology position. The school district is still mulling further discipline against Grisham. But what is most troubling, perhaps, is had it not been for a student with a recording device on her cell phone, Grisham would be teaching and coaching those same values. And that matters more than any number of wins on the football field. http://espn.go.com/espnw/commentary/8927814/espnw-alabama-coach-needs-more-sensitivity-training

Great photo!

Stunning!

The old ones were in another forum here for years. The one on Adonis Men's Club was posted in 2010. It now has over 14,000 views but no replies other than the one by Scooby yesterday. The majority of views come from the City Guide areas on the site. I think the point of putting them in this forum was to get more input. As it didn't work for over 2 years, it seems that trying something different may not be a bad idea. I don't mind them at all. On the First Page of this forum, not even half the posts were these listings. IMHO, they are valuable. But, I like to learn about new places I don't know about and to hear what others think of the places I have been to or heard about. KoKo and others may know every place and not need more information. I, on the other hand, always need to stimulate my 94 IQ.

LOL Thanks for the chuckle. I wish my saunas in USA were such oral delights. The ones in Thailand are amazing!

Tim, Adam, Nicolas here!

We have been working hard trying to find a nice balance on the site that benefits profile members, forum members and management. We have changed directions a few times over the course of the past few years. We will continue to evolve the site in order to make it better and more functional as well as use more social media tools. We will be downsizing the flirt banners at the top of the pages. They will remain there but only one row of guys and smaller size of photos. We have initiated gaythailandlive.com (our site but managed by Flirt4Free) to replace these banners which will be the main source of revenue from the site. All members will receive an email from gaythailandlive.com. It is the same Flirt company as we currently use. The email will have an opt out option for gaythailandlive.com. Click the link to opt out if you do not wish to receive further emails from the gaythailandlive.com site and you will not receive any other emails from them. As new members register, they will also get a free credit email from them which they can continue to receive or opt out of. Other than these flirt guys, we are removing all of the porn video links on the site. We will also remove all other porn areas of the site. The forums do not currently have the porn video links but the other links are also being removed. We will be replacing the porn with 2 other affiliate programs. One is World Nomads Travel Insurance and the other is Agoda. Both will have links on all pages similar to the one right beneath the homepage flirt boys banner. They will be small text links on all pages of the site. In addition, we will have World Nomads banners at the bottom of the pages. Our goal is to make these as non intrusive as possible while still having them on the site. We will test this for a few months and see the result and modify them if they are not working for us. We plan to keep updating all Thailand related business establishments and try to be the best place for finding information related to gay Thailand. We were going to do this pretty fast but several people seem to be upset that we were using the forums for "advertisements." That is not the case. We are trying to make the most comprehensive listing of any site that deals with gay Thailand. As we don't want members to get upset, we have slowed this pace down a great deal. We want to say a special thank you to Fountainhall who has helped us with the collection of the listings for Gay Bangkok. It was a big undertaking and he has truly helped us in so many ways over the years but his research into this project has been indispensable. His gentle "nudges" to update the listings have not gone on deaf ears and we are working hard to get these totally up to date. We appreciate all our members and posters on the site and we want to say thank you for your loyalty over the years.

Can you forward me the name of that friend? I owe him a dinner!

If it was your private email, it was the one you used to register for the site. There is no other way it would have been sent to you. The unsubscribe will work.

Khun TW mentioned in another thread that there was no listing for Hero Massage. It is my personal favorite massage place. Here are a few other postings on this site. http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/8161-hero-massage-in-bangkok-is-the-uncontested-best-massage-house-for-men-in-bangkok/?hl=hero http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/7901-hero-massage-in-bangkok-back-to-normal/?hl=hero http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/6924-hero-massage-in-bangkok/?hl=hero http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/6788-hero-massage-in-bangkok/?hl=hero http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/6725-hero-massage-in-bangkok/?hl=hero http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/6563-hero-massage-in-bangkok/?hl=hero http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/5268-hero-massage-versus-silom-parlors/?hl=hero Hero 65 Sukhumvit Soi 11 Phone: (02) 251 1033

No, it should show the same as it does on Youtube. It is only a hyperlink. Do the videos on YouTube work for you?

I have been here 2 times and both times I had a great massage. I don't remember the rates but I think it was cheaper than Hero.

I have been to Fan Club several times when I stayed in that area and was always happy with the massage and happiness at the end.

Gay Shanghai Sometimes, as a traveling fag you want to hit cities where the gay scene is big, out and proud. You want to know that you can find established scenes where you can just lay back and soak in the gay. That's fine and dandy – and who can complain about that? But many of us are also explorers who like to discover a gay scene in its infancy. That way, you can see how the trends are evolving and help the scene grow into a healthy and horny homo heaven. If that's the kind of gay you are, then you might want to check out Shanghai, the gay capital of China. To say the scene is new is putting it mildly: Homosexuality was only made legal in 1997, and there have been a lot of fits and starts since then. Several gay pride parades have been organized; a couple have actually happened, while others have been shut down by the police. The website for this year's gay pride celebration was shut down by the government last month, so it's unclear if there will be on this year. That said, the government does turn a blind eye to gay bars, clubs, discos, and saunas. Their main deal seems to be to find ways to keep the gay behind closed doors and put out a utopian, traditional sexuality front in public. Yet they have relaxed the reigns in Shanghai, which is why this is the city where most of China's gay men live and party. And they are building up a very hot and sexy scene that tourists are more than welcome to be a part of. The Gay Vibe In Shanghai China is still an authoritarian country with traditional values on the outside. This means that under pressure from both the government and family members, nearly all gays are in heterosexual marriages. On the other hand, the gay population has found a way to work around this – in general, gay men marry lesbians, and vice versa. They spend the workweek together, and go out on their own on the weekend. What this means is that during the week the gay bars and clubs are nearly empty, while on the weekends they become packed to the brim with trim boy toys and big muscle studs. In fact, the lines to get in the best bars and clubs stretch out into the street on the weekends. During the week, however, it's easy to get into the gay watering holes – but most of the guys you see there will be what the Chinese call “money boys,” and what we call rent boys. They are very prevalent, but also very discreet because prostitution remains technically illegal in China, though in Shanghai it is only enforced if people make it obvious in public. So, just discreetly take your money boy off to a dark corner or back to your hotel room. The same can be said of the gay saunas, which are packed with married gays during the weekend and money boys during the week. The good news is that unlike Japan, the Shanghai saunas and clubs love Westerners and do not discriminate at all. In fact, the money boys would rather guys like us than their local talent. So, you should find it very easy to score here. You'll also find that the gay scene is mostly composed of younger gays who have grown up with more freedom than previous generations. That said, there are still some older gays who refer to themselves as “Panda Bears.” The Shanghai Gayborhood In order to find the heart of the gay scene, head over to the French Concession neighborhood. This is where you'll find all the gay bars, saunas, clubs and rent boys hanging out. It has become famous for being fagtabulous, and the police will leave you alone if you get your gay on here. When you are here, you'll notice signs in English describing it as the Gay Triangle. This should give you some sense of the fact that the authorities have accepted the gay lifestyle in this neighborhood. The Internet And Rent Boys It should be noted that the Internet is highly regulated and monitored by the government in China. This means that many sites you are used to using will be blocked. It also means that it is a very bad idea to try to set up a date with a male escort online. There is a strong chance that you and the money boy might get arrested. In fact, you should probably avoid discussing anything related to gay hook-ups at all while you are in China. This is the place to only visit websites your mother would approve of. General Shanghai Tourism Shanghai was built as a financial center and not a tourist attraction, so you won't find much in the way of traditional tourism. That said, observing the Chinese way of life is fascinating, so it's unlikely that you will ever be bored. Take the time to soak in how the Chinese live, sample their excellent cuisine, and just have a gay old time. If you need something you can write home about, check out the Shanghai Museum, which has a plethora of historical artifacts. You'll also want to head over to The Bund, where you will see one of the most spectacular skylines in the world. cc boytoy.com 2013

Sanctuarybya is a beautifully renovated massage parlor in Bangkok that was taken over by one of the top masseurs. The place is clean and very well decorated. Sanctuary by A had a great review by Out in Thailand Magazine: Sanctuary by A, which opened 2 months ago in December 2011, has already taken Bangkok by storm It’s a breath of “Fresh Air” in a very formulated industry! A total new look to men’s spa’s, Sanctuary by A brings to Bangkok a Spa for Men in line with international standards and design. The concept is based on the 5 Senses. Goodbye to the dark wooden rooms you really can’t see in! This Spa is all about Tomorrow – Sanctuary by A is a modern Art Gallery featuring Thai Artists working in the field of Flora & Fauna but toned to match the Spa’s colour theme. A special feature of the Spa is it’s rooms, each individually themed, featuring a very large private en-suite shower room and all with integral lighting to create the mood you want. This is not a Traditional Thai Spa (Check out the website Sanctuarybya.com in Thai, English, Traditional & Simplistic Chinese and soon in Russian, Arabic, Japanese and Korean) but Thailand tomorrow today with a totally personalised service aimed at both the Home Man and the International traveler either on vacation or Business. It’s definitely the new international destination in Bangkok. http://www.out-in-thailand.com/articles/a-sanctuary-in-bangkok/ http://sanctuarybya.com

The Prince has over 30 rooms available. It is very well decorated and furnished. The guys are sexy and they have a gallery on their website. The options range from a simple 1hr oil massage (800bt) to a 3hr luxury treatment in a VIP room with Jacuzzi and all the luxuries you would expect (7,000bt) The Prince - Men's Spa 253/4 Suanplu Soi 6,Sathorn Rd., Bangkok. 10120 (5 mins. from Silom Rd. and 300 meters from BTS Chongnonsri or MRT Lumpini) Open Time : 1 PM - 11 PM http://www.theprincebkk.com

Menfactory is the hottest men sauna on Silom road, Bangkok, which provide full facility, nice, and cozy. I got sauna, steam room, gym, internet, jacuzzi, relax room. Location Silom Soi 2/1, Silom Rd, Bangrak, Bangkok, Thailand 10500 Hours Mon - Sun: 4:00 pm - 6:00 am http://www.mfsauna.com/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Menfactory-Sauna/124835764279082

Homme Club, a boutique massage spa for men. We are conveniently located in Silom, in the center of Bangkok, just a few minutes walk from the Saladaeng skytrain station and the gay bars and restaurants of Silom Soi 2 and 4. Homme Club is in a tastefully renovated multistory house. All massage rooms are private and have their own shower. You will be welcomed by Win, Homme Club's friendly and knowledgeable captain, who will introduce you to our handsome masseurs while you enjoy a complimentary drink. Homme Club on Saladaeng Soi 1 is a few minutes walk from the Saladaeng skytrain (BTS) station (use exit 4) and Silom subway station. Look for the bright Homme Club sign on the right hand side of the soi. It's after the dentist and before Jim Thompson restaurant. 21/3 Saladaeng Soi 1, Silom, Bangkok http://www.hommeclubbangkok.com/