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I don't like the entire idea of making appointments with service providers and popular boys (a very short step to attitude and unreasonable expectations). I want to be the one in high demand and who is popular, and I will go to places where I am (Pattaya gogo bars, street trade). Daydreamer's report reminds me of my recent (Dec 2018) survey of Myanmar massage shops. No appointment, but I had name and address of a shop, but with unclear numbering I walked past twice, and there was no sign. Asked a local for help, and he called the number, and someone waved out of a window above us. So I went up, and still no sign, but door was open and I was asked to come in. The selection of massage boys was poor, so I made an excuse, said Thank You and left.

Has Good Boys closed permanently? On Friday I walked past, it was closed and I couldn't the see their sign.

AFAIK their data packages come at different maximum speeds. Maybe you are just in a slow package?

As you wrote: "once". Saphan Kwai is in decline as well, and here I assume it's not rising rents or lack of foreign customers. When you are looking for prostitution, gogo bars and massage shops provide that. For free encounters, gay saunas and discos could provide that, but my success rate is low. Online has everything: free and paid, and 90% of my free encounters are from online. There is just no brick-and-mortar place that could provide such a selection. Online, I can fish in entire Thailand. I'm just back from a nice encounter in Sakaew. I went there for sightseeing, and meeting a local boy at night was the icing on the cake.

I had a few video chats after which I decided not to meet the boy. Should do video chat more often.

I have been to both sport fields (there are supposed to be more, but the footage is fake or an artist's impression). One I passed recently, and it's a great example how something that was created with good intentions became a failure due to poor construction and lack of maintenance. About one year after construction, cracks appeared in the ground, and it turned into a giant dog toilet, and is now used as general storage area. The other one I have to check next time I'm in the area. Worth a full article with pictures on my blog some day. The one in picture above is/was real, but now looks like a garbage dump.

Cars are to blame for many evils, but not for this. There were as many cars and traffic jams 6 months ago, without such pollution levels. And you have to consider that there are 12 million people who belch, fart, vomit, smoke, piss and shit and prepare food over open fires. Those fumes from kitchens burn in the eyes when then the wind blows them into the area where customers sit. And incense in temples. (My mother does incense for Christmas, bordering on chemical warfare, but I haven't been in Europe in winter for years so it doesn't affect me.) The problem is the weather conditions that trap all the pollution in the city. But there is nothing we can do about the weather, only produce less pollutants.

I think the Ambiance cannot be accessed by car as Boystown is car-free (at night for sure, during day I don't remember cars there). And I had similar situations elsewhere, where the hotel was marked between two roads in google maps and it was not clear which road is the entrance to hotel. When I take a taxi, I know exactly where I'm going and can give directions. It happens that taxi driver does not know the place. But tourist who does not know directions and does not speak Thai has to rely on luck, that either google maps is correct or taxi driver knows the place. Jomtien vs Boystown. I'm not interested in beer bars, so I spend only little, if any, time in Jomtien. Boys in underwear on stage are more interesting than fully dressed boys sitting, from that alone there might be a bias in attraction. However, I saw a few cute boys in Jomtien, and my current and all time favorite works there.

Full of tourists (Chinese tour groups!!!) and a waste management problem? In Chonburi province there is Koh Si Chang (not to be confused with Koh Chang) and Bang Saen which I find interesting places.

There is one masseur No in former Lomchoey, now Zy massage in Soi Ngamduplee, who is my type but was only so-so when I had massage with him some years ago, who is on hornet with a profile mostly in Thai, but having "no sex" in English. It puzzles me why someone who works in gay massage would put "no sex" in his online dating profile. If I didn't know him, I would skip him for that reason.

Great reports! I still clearly remember when I was about 15 and my parents went with me to Scotland for holiday, the hotel was labyrinthine, but I forgot how many turns and steps up and down it took to get from my room to my parents'. Fake disco has a lot of steps, from stage going up to the wall, which might help to give everyone a view of stage, but has disadvantages when walking there drunk and without seeing the floor. (Before someone asks: I'm talking about my observation of others, not personal experience.) And the gogo bar in a side soi of Bua Khao in Pattaya that closed around 2013, there was a step of a few centimeter, invisible in low light and dark tiles, on the way to toilet, where I hurt my toe. And many more construction and interior design mishaps. Taxi at airport. The last years, I always took the ARL from airport to town, and in some cases took taxi from ARL station closest to my room. If I were ever to take a taxi from airport, I would do at departure level to save the 50 THB fee. They built turnstiles to prevent people from doing so, but the last time I did (2014?) the turnstiles could turn in both directions! I think that last time I took a taxi from there, despite agreeing on use of meter when I asked first, when we were on our way the driver asked for fixed fare, which I refused, so he sent me back to the same spot. That together with several other mishaps taxi from and even taxi to airport, was enough to give up. ARL is clearly cheaper, takes about the same time, I am strong enough to carry my luggage, and my departure and arrival times are when ARL operates, so I don't bother with all the taxi bullshit any more. Grab. All reports are positive, I might try some day. But I assume their maps are based on google maps, which has plenty of mistakes. If you have no local knowledge, and the location on google maps is wrong, you can't blame the driver. I just checked and Tuk-Com is correct on google maps, I have no idea why your trip went wrong. There is a multi story car park somewhere behind Tuk-Com which could be the place your driver took you. "Parking Garage Parking couvert Tuk Com" on google maps.

I logged in here once, and stay logged in without doing anything more. Firefox, and when I'm done reading I sometimes close the tab, sometimes leave it open, it does not make a difference. It was the same on gaythailand.

Poor pictures is a general problem. As is picture is not the profile owner. If in doubt, ask for more pictures. Or rather I send him a clear face picture of myself from recent sightseeing, hoping he gets the hint to send a clear face picture of himself. "Sensory overload" is the key word here. When I watch a movie in English with Thai subtitles, or in Thai with English subtitles, I cannot translate the Thai in real time and compare it with the English. A boy who is active on social networks cannot process all the data, and unless he is very horny or very in need of your money, once your chat falls behind, you are out of sight and out of mind. In 2013, I took a boy from Banana Bar Soi Twilight overnight for 2000 THB. About 2015, I still saw him working there and on the apps. I considered taking him again and asked to see his private pictures to refresh my memory. His reply was "You know already.". That was the end of our conversation. I wish more people posted on the gay online dating forum, so we can avoid the problem cases and reward the good ones with more business. And I find other people's experiences, matched with pictures or links to profiles, highly interesting and it's one of my favorite with to talk about with friends. Those who like this kind of conversation, we go through all the boys we had since we last met.

A few years ago, bought a second hand copy The Men of Thailand for 80 (THB, not EUR) in Thai4life (near Sunee Plaza, now closed). Interesting reading. On the subject of gay guidebooks, a friend brought a new Spartacus a few years ago, and the section on Thailand was obviously composed a year before printing, which means half of the entries were not correct any more, and a lot of new stuff was missing.

I generally don't like changes, and this is one of the changes I don't like. But I'm here and will continue.

Quite shapely as far as I can see! He can sleep in my room.

Camfrog used to be good 5 years ago, but now has the same problem as everywhere: people who do not show their face or body, but use someone else's pictures. Most Thai gay chat will be in Thai language.

Great report! All trains (two per day) from Aranyaprathet go all the way to Bangkok. You mean you stayed in Kabinburi for one night? But why? I once had boy business there, so I spent one night in Kabinburi. But there is a disadvantage: the railway station is a few km out of town.

In 2013, I used to stay in Jomtien and off boys from Sunee and Boystown and go back by songtheo. If the boy Talks about duration of short time, that is a very poor start. I don't like to rush things or have deadlines for enjoyable activities. So when a boy tells me in advance that he has only limited time, I reply "Never mind. We can meet another time. I will find someone else." In many cases, suddenly they have enough time. If everything goes well, I spend about one hour with a boy in bed. Add traveling and showering, and he is two hours out of the bar. Short time is over when I give the boy the money.

Thanks for your reports. I think there is no need for *, we have read it all before.

I had two negative experiences with Vietnamese boys, and on the forum negative reports outweigh positive reports. Hence I stay away from Vietnamese boys. Hank75 is to be congratulated to come to this conclusion after just one negative experience, whereas it took me two! Back to the OP. Sleeping and eating habits of myself and the boys vary a lot. I sleep midnight to 8, I had boys who get up 15. One of my recent overnighters got up around 10, but wasn't hungry and left 15. Whereas I had two meals when he left 15. Nowadays I do long time in my room only after positive short time, and only when I have no important plans for the following morning to early afternoon. When I'm staying in a hotel it's a different story. I tell the boy in advance what time I will leave, and if he is still sleeping I let him sleep (happened one time in Pattaya, a boy I picked up in the disco was still sleeping when I left, so I told hotel staff to let him sleep when I checked out).

I don't care if they are dancing or not. If you want to see dancing, go to a ballet! I'm here (gogo bars) looking for prostitutes.

Great report! I should try apps for taxi or other transport next time I'm abroad. Good points: no haggling and no confusion about destination when you can put starting point and destination in. Whenever I see a foreigner showing an address to a Thai taxi driver on his mobile phone, I cringe because that's just crying "OVERCHARGE ME!". But I'm not much better when abroad, I still remember that awful encounter in Vietnam in 2016, where I showed an address of a sauna on my mobile phone (the website was grey letters on black background), to a mocy taxi, and he couldn't read it or didn't know it, and had to pass my phone around all other mocy taxi drivers to find out the location, followed by negotiation of price. Now I write all addresses down on paper. The sauna scene in PP is good by my standards. Which apps did you use? On recent trips to Myanmar I found that blued is more than 10 times more popular than hornet there. The railway in Cambodia is expanding. A friend said there is now a train running between airport and railway station. With new rails having been laid, as there was no rail before. The railway station in Poipet and railway line are all new (visit in Sep 2018), and it looks like the connection to Thailand will open in the near future.

When I travel to Cambodia, I bring EUR and exchange them to USD there. Unless you get a better rate for GBP to USD in the UK, it doesn't make sense to change there, as you still would be carrying cash with danger of loss or theft.

Not much to do for me in Phnom Penh during day. Sights that are interesting to me can be covered in a few days. But I like the sauna scene in Phnom Penh, could easily spend a week! Siem Reap has various gay massage, bars and freelancers.