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Nowadays, I only choose masseurs who sit outside, when I walk past on errands or on my way elsewhere. But I had cases before where I just made an excuse and walked out: V-Club (near Chakran sauna, they didn't pay much attention to me anyway), Hero (where I just had a drink to check out why others wax lyrical about Hero), Fan Club (that was a bit awkward, everyone got up, I chose one boy who was bordercase my type, but when they showed me the menu, and I read the prices, I made an excuse - there was nobody even remotely worth these prices).

Xian and bkk..., where these moneyboys you offed from bars? I asked because anyone can off as many boys as he likes and have an orgy with them (provided he has the money and they boys work well together), so this is not exciting or inspiring to me. Being at the right time at the right place however, is. I had an encounter 3 years ago in Laos, with a gay who fancied me and a straight boy who was cute. We drove to my gay friend's house, the rooms showed significant signs of neglect (when he is on drugs, he can't be bothered to clean up). The cute gay boy got sick from smoking (whatever, not tobacco), the whole experience was so-so. Details in my Lao trip report 2011. I recently (Monday) had my first outdoor sex (in Pattaya, on Pratamnak hill). It was so-so, rather go to room next time.

39 underground in Saphan Kwai is not underground, and I wonder if d.blu is.

I have some sauna stories in my blog: http://christianpfc.blogspot.com/

Please report about X-Boys (time you enter, number of boys), I wanted to go a few times, but number of boys is very erratic (I spied a stage full around 8:30, but when I wanted to enter around 9:30 there were only 3, I suspect they shift their boys between X-Boys and X-Boys Land). I would like current off-fee and expected short time tip as well. There are/were two boys who are on my wishlist.

On average I spend 30 minutes in bar. If I am indecisive, it might be 1 to 2 hours. I am not interested in show, so I try to arrive 30 minutes before show, if I am indecisive there is at least the show to look at in case I stay longer. But I do not go to bars for shows or enter during showtime. Less than 10 boys on stage, I don't enter at all unless one of them appeals to me. More than 10 boys, I need more time than looking through the door, so I order a drink. By the time the drink arrives, I have checked all boys out and could technically leave (with or without boy), but now that I've paid for the drink I can as well drink it and see if there are hidden gems. In my experience, for 2 boys on stage there is one more somewhere else inside or outside the bar who will appear later, e.g. if there are 10 boys on stage there are 5 more somewhere around. I use ear plugs to protect my ears from loud music, sometimes ask staff to lower the music. There is not much I can do about smoking. Sometimes I use loud music or smoking as an excuse to leave (without ordering a drink; the real reason is low number of boys).

La Tana Silom Soi 6, have walked past many times over the years, and a few months ago decided to go with a Farang friend. Have been back with Farang friends several times, all of us liked their pizza. Some items on the menu are on the expensive side (pizza 400 Baht, other meals 600 Baht), but they have pizza specials for 140 and 190 Baht. Their menu is the most confusing I have ever seen. Pictures separate from names, pizza after dessert. Madrid restaurant in Patpong (coming from Silom Soi 4, the first Patpong soi, on the left side, about 50 meters from Silom). Have been twice with a friend, and good pizza every time. Available in size S, M, L, thin crust. Competitive price (M size about 250 to 300 Baht). The most unusual place for a restaurant, I learnt about it on stickmanweekly.

I was in Golden Cock a few months ago, don't remember problems with furniture. "Open in the afternoon" means nothing more that a few boys stay in the premises, and mamasan will wake them from their slumber if a customer walks past/in. I walked past Super A recently on an afternoon, tried to look through the glass door, whereupon a boy opened and I saw a few sleeping in the bar.

Some of these nicknames are real English words, written in Thai letters. You can easily recognize them in Thai language, as they often have Garan to mute a letter and Mai Tri tone mark (both of which is rare in Thai words). One would have to look at recordings for nick names over the years, which one appeared parallel with influx of English speaking foreigners into Thailand (Vietnam war and tourism after that).

Did you learn to write in full sentences at school?

Why don't they just settle down for a threesome? (Sorry to make jokes when others are in hospital.) "Stabber and stabbee" I like this way the English language can say "the person who is subjected to an action" by just adding -ee, in German we need a full subordinate clause.

My comments on offing a boy: I usually do not involve staff for calling a boy over or talking with a boy, even if I ask staff to call a boy over, I do not tip (it's their job, their employer pays them already for being there and doing their duty). Quite often, a boy agrees to long time in the bar and then gets a phone call and has to leave after short time, in which case I tip only for short time.

I have read information to the contrary on the internet: prostitutes prefer old and fat customers because they are less demanding and easily satisfied. Furthermore, from some observations in saunas there is an inverse relationship between dick size and body size: fat people have small dicks and sometimes it's geometrically impossible to fuck (like these T-shirts they sell in Silom "Mission Impossible" with drawing of fat man and fat woman unable to perform a sexual act).

Highly questionable behavior. I wouldn't mind if someone gave his phone number to a Thai money boy who is with me, but how can he know if it's a money boy or a friend? If I were in such a situation, I would wait until one of them leaves (and ask the Farang where and how he met the Thai or ask the Thai where and how he met the Farang), ask wait staff if they know them and if they could pass my phone number or ask if I can join their table/conversation or most probably just leave it at drooling.

Does he say "Ice cream ka" or "I scream ka"?

For all those group sex questions, try a darkroom in a sauna first (not my style, but always busy). However, you can't choose your sexual partners there (like in a bar), you can't even see them! But there are areas in saunas with group action with some light, check these out, it will give you an idea. d) I pay the boy to make me cum, if he cums is not that important to me, so I leave it to them. About half of them cum. g) Straight boy and girl has been a fantasy of mine. Hiring two prostitutes would double the cost, this is not the way to go for me (straight bars have different pricing). The only way I can fulfill this fantasy is on the local market (500 Baht each) or the boy fucks his girlfriend/wife and I pay just for him.

I walk past Prime regularly, but never went in. It's not my style to choose a boy from pictures or from boys gathered inside in semi-darkness, I choose boy from those who are sitting outside, when I walk past. And there are places where you don't get to choose, but as I usually want a happy ending after massage I want to choose.

www.christianpfc.blogspot.com I had a look at the VIP room, it is bigger than the standard rooms, has a massage table (same as the standard rooms) and a bathtub. Now I don't care about a bigger room and can't imagine any activity in a bathtub that would justify such a premium price (anyway, the 1800 is just for the room, tip not included!), so either someone comes up with 1800 Baht or we all die ignorant.

Good news: neither of us is a retard. I found the sign "Silom 64" hidden amongst the many other signs on that building. And I was aware of people handing out flyers, but didn't pay attention to what exactly they are handing out. With the shop hidden somewhere in the back, and the masseurs stretched out along the front, I didn't draw a conclusion that they work there. Yesterday, I noticed they wear T-shirts with "Relax Massage" and saw one who is cute, so I might give it a try some day.

I will go to Pattaya today and plan to go to the Dongtan gay beach on Monday (tomorrow, 17.02.2014) or Tuesday afternoon. If you are interested in meeting, let's exchange details (phone number?) in PM.

Can you elaborate on this? For me, it's rather an abrupt change from standard massage to happy ending (bases on a few cases). But now that I found two boys in Silom area who are cute and up for more, I might be able to train them (maybe I should get it written down in Thai?). The massage would start with him dressed in boxers over underwear (both of a style I like, maybe I have to bring some for him to wear), and when I turn around take these off slowly. The last massage I had, the masseurs was massaging my back and kneeing over me on the table, but he was wearing long trousers so our skin didn't touch, the fabric was in between. Skin contact would have been nice. And he was pouring the oil on my body (I read in shamelessmack that a good masseur pours the oil on his hands, and then applies it to the client).

By my standards, spending more than 1000 Baht on a hotel room per night anywhere in Thailand is luxury, and in the last three years I never spent more than 800 Baht per night on room. My current rent is 3000 Baht per MONTH, and apart from hot shower (I should have installed a water heater when I moved in!) I don't miss anything.

Ladprao/Chatuchak/Mor Chit has been clear for days and Victory Monument is clear as well (both where occupied when I left on Jan 31 and free when I was back on Feb 10).

I didn't look at the forums during my trip (31.01.-10.02.2014). I will post on my blog. I had the same (1 h oil 450 Baht in Playboy), but the boy pointed out (while I was looking at their menu) that hey have body-to-body massage. I was happy with massage and happy ending, so I tipped 1000 and am looking forward for a repeat. After the oil massage I asked, 1800 Baht is just for the shop, tip not included.

Thanks for your report. Regarding massage with happy ending (usually I want massage 1 hour oil with happy ending, but at about one massage per months this is not my area of expertise), just a handjob would not be enough, I want to watch and touch, and the masseur has to get fully naked for playing around. I had three experiences in Lomchoey Ngamduplee (details in my blog), no tip discussed in advance, gave 1000 and whenever I walk past they try to get me in (unfortunately, none of them really my type, despite good massage and very skilfull happy ending no repeats). In Silom (Thai Best and Playboy), I was asked during the massage if I want special massage and how much I would tip. I said 1000, which was immediately accepted. Both are my type, so I will be back.