Jasper Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 It seems immigration police raided VCK today and found 11 illegal workers, Vietnam, Lao, Myanmar there. vinapu 1 Quote
Boy69 Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 From time to time the immigration police are making spectacle raids for publicity purposes to justify their existence... Quote
hank75 Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 Reminds me of when Mekhin was arrestedĀ Quote
Guest reader Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 When reading about raids like this, I'm inclined to ask: who benefits? Quote
DivineMadman Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 I think the raid might have been yesterday and the police press conference was this morning? Still, Iāve received messages this afternoon from Chakran Sauna that they are open as usual for the big party weekend and Iāve received a Line blast this afternoon with the guys working at the massage shop āĀ presumably only Thai guys. vinapu and Jasper 2 Quote
Jasper Posted December 27, 2019 Author Posted December 27, 2019 Interesting information concerning the police raid is that Vietnamese ex model masseur called Mr Bobby who is āwell known among gay touristsāĀ and charges 5000 baht per hour. I wonder what he looked like. lol Ā Google translation*** While arrested Ā The officers met Mr Bobby, a famous Vietnamese model. Ā Who transformed into a career like this in Thailand Ā Which will have an income of 5,000 baht per hour, which will have a share of Mr. Bobby 3,500 baht, 1,500 baht to the store, and a maximum of 50,000 baht per day Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Bobby is well-known among gay tourists. Ā And must be booked only Ā With high-class gay people in Thailand to use the service as well Ā Which people who use the service must be members only Ā And customers are mostly foreigners with high society Thais Ā ąøąøąø°ą¹ąøą¹ąø²ąøąø±ąøąøąøøąø” ą¹ąøą¹ąø²ąø«ąøą¹ąø²ąøąøµą¹ąøąø ąøąø²ąø¢ąøą¹ąøąøąøąøµą¹ ąøąø¶ą¹ąøą¹ąøą¹ąøąøąø²ąø¢ą¹ąøąøąøąø·ą¹ąøąøąø±ąøąøąø²ąø§ą¹ąø§ąøµąø¢ąøąøąø²ąø” ąøąøµą¹ąøąø±ąøąøąø±ąø§ą¹ąøą¹ąø²ąø”ąø²ąøąø³ąøąø²ąøąøµąøą¹ąøąøąøąøµą¹ą¹ąøą¹ąø”ąø·ąøąøą¹ąøąø¢ ą¹ąøąø¢ąøąø°ąø”ąøµąø£ąø²ąø¢ą¹ąøą¹ąøąø±ą¹ąø§ą¹ąø”ąøąø„ąø° 5,000 ąøąø²ąø ąøąø¶ą¹ąøąøąø°ąø”ąøµąøŖą¹ąø§ąøą¹ąøą¹ąøą¹ąøą¹ąø²ąøąø¶ąøąøąø±ąø§ąøąø²ąø¢ąøą¹ąøąøąøąøµą¹ 3,500 ąøąø²ąø ą¹ąøą¹ąøą¹ąø«ą¹ąøąøµą¹ąø£ą¹ąø²ąø 1,500 ąøąø²ąø ą¹ąø„ąø°ąø”ąøµąø£ąø²ąø¢ą¹ąøą¹ąøŖąø¹ąøąøŖąøøąøąøąø¶ąø 50,000 ąøąø²ąøąøą¹ąøąø§ąø±ąø Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā ąøąø±ą¹ąøąøąøµą¹ ąøąø²ąø¢ąøą¹ąøąøąøąøµą¹ą¹ąøą¹ąøąøąøµą¹ąø£ąø¹ą¹ąøąø±ąøą¹ąøąø«ąø”ąø¹ą¹ąøąø±ąøąøą¹ąøąøą¹ąøąøµą¹ąø¢ąø§ąøąø²ąø§ą¹ąøąø¢ą¹ ą¹ąø„ąø°ąøą¹ąøąøąøąøąøą¹ąøą¹ąø²ąøąø±ą¹ąø ą¹ąøąø¢ąøąø°ąø”ąøµą¹ąø®ą¹ąøąøąø²ąø§ą¹ąøąø¢ą¹ąøąøą¹ąøąø¢ąø”ąø²ą¹ąøą¹ąøąø£ąø“ąøąø²ąø£ąøą¹ąø§ąø¢ ąøąø¶ą¹ąøąøąøąøąøµą¹ąø”ąø²ą¹ąøą¹ąøąø£ąø“ąøąø²ąø£ąøą¹ąøąøą¹ąøą¹ąøąøŖąø”ąø²ąøąø“ąøą¹ąøą¹ąø²ąøąø±ą¹ąø ą¹ąø„ąø°ąø„ąø¹ąøąøą¹ąø²ąøąø°ą¹ąøą¹ąøąøąø²ąø§ąøą¹ąø²ąøąøąø²ąøąø“ąøąø±ąøą¹ąø®ą¹ąøąøąøą¹ąøąø¢ą¹ąøŖąøµąø¢ąøŖą¹ąø§ąøą¹ąø«ąøą¹ Quote
vinapu Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Boy69 said: From time to time the immigration police are making spectacle raids for publicity purposes to justify their existence... I still feel sorry for those 11 guys who were found and presumably are in trouble now. Even from blurry pictures in the backgroundĀ it seems that VCK's reputation for being den of hunks is justified floridarob and DrimVoiz 2 Quote
vinapu Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jasper said: Ā Ā Google translation*** While arrested Ā The officers met Mr Bobby, a famous Vietnamese model. Ā Who transformed into a career like this in Thailand Ā Which will have an income of 5,000 baht per hour, which will have a share of Mr. Bobby 3,500 baht, 1,500 baht to the store, and a maximum of 50,000 baht per day Ā Ā 50000 baht a day , this is how legends are created Boy69 and Jasper 2 Quote
Jasper Posted December 27, 2019 Author Posted December 27, 2019 an another video on the raid Ā Ā vinapu 1 Quote
Guest reader Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 Although I can't date it exactly (probably circa 2003 or thereabouts), Thaksin's so-called "social order" campaign conducted a well orchestrated raid on Babylon with the media in tow. I was in town at the time and missed it by hours. This was at at period when the sauna was enjoying the height of its popularity with a cross section of locals and visitors. This extravaganza bears all the same trappings. Ā Quote
DrimVoiz Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 2 hours ago, reader said: Although I can't date it exactly (probably circa 2003 or thereabouts), Thaksin's so-called "social order" campaign conducted a well orchestrated raid on Babylon with the media in tow. I was in town at the time and missed it by hours. This was at at period when the sauna was enjoying the height of its popularity with a cross section of locals and visitors. This extravaganza bears all the same trappings. Ā I'm lucky Babylon was not raided when I was there... Quote
DrimVoiz Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 3 hours ago, vinapu said: I still feel sorry for those 11 guys who were found and presumably are in trouble now. Even from blurry pictures in the backgroundĀ it seems that VCK's reputation for being den of hunks is justified Oh no, that's so sad... But I really want 2 go 2 VCK though...but boys in Silom keeps me busy in every trip, lol Quote
ggobkk Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 And the eternal Thai wonderment - who benefits? Quote
starbum Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 Was the Prince raided too? Saw the logo in the news. Quote
DivineMadman Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, starbum said: Was the Prince raided too? Saw the logo in the news. Prince was raided earlier. Ā The Immigration Police āstoryā is that after they discovered what was going on at Prince - āshocked, shocked I sayā - they followed up and it led them to VCK. Ā Quote
mgb Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 That totally nightmare for tourists. Fun night turned to very bad experience. I gave up such touristy saunas like this. 4 years ago, my friends and i visited Singapore and the sauna we visited on the first night in Sing got raided by police. We're all handcuffed and roughly pushedĀ Ā on police cars (even they could not find drugs among 50 p customers in there). At the police station, they did urineĀ test on us, took pictures and asked several questions. We were only removed out of there at 04:00 AM. and we had to spend the rest of that night OUTSIDE of police office. One of my friends got so shocked as it was his first overseas tripĀ We all cancelled 5-day tripĀ right then (cancelled hotels and visit trip to Universal Studio Sing)Ā Ā and flew back home. Then we all never visit Singapore again. Bye Sing forever. It seems to happen here, in Thailand P/S: should we do like in Manila to visit sauna: men must wear shirt and underwear entering in sauna? Does costume like this help in case of police raid? Quote
hank75 Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 Was it really necessary to put them all in bright orange shirts (obviously pre planned) and parade them past the TV cameras? Their faces are covered but those with body tattoos are easily identified. Feel very sorry for these boys. Nothing but police posturing.Ā Is it true Jupiter never gets raided because ownerās husband is a top police officer? vinapu 1 Quote
vinapu Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, ggobkk said: And the eternal Thai wonderment - who benefits? immigration police brass, one more star and a bonus for keeping Thailand free of illegal labor without building a wall ( for a week or twoĀ Ā I guess ) Quote
mgb Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 31 minutes ago, DivineMadman said: Prince was raided earlier. Ā The Immigration Police āstoryā is that after they discovered what was going on at Prince - āshocked, shocked I sayā - they followed up and it led them to VCK. Ā What exactlyĀ got them shocked? Hot men in underwear or they did not sell Chang beer? Boy69 1 Quote
macaroni21 Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 Thanks, Jasper for the videos and the translation. I think some perspective is in order. It does look like a pure immigration raid, not any kind of clampdown against gay activities, even if the media reporting (not always within the police's control) goes tabloidy and speaks breathlessly about 50,000 baht a day for the top performer. That said this tidbit must have come from the police who might have been spinning a more "shocked!" story at their news conference. The thing worth noting from about 1 minute 45 seconds of Jasper's second video is that all the guys being led to the police van wereĀ in similar black shorts, orange T-shirts,Ā facemasks and black baseball caps. This indicates that the police brought these items so that the arrestees could conceal their identities (save those with exposed tattoos as hank75 pointed out). The media were either directed to, orĀ themselves decided to blur and pixelate the other scenes, particularly those showing other masseurs not arrested. We should at least note this degree of consideration. If they had really wanted to make a homophobic case out of the incident, they needn'tĀ have taken all this trouble, and exposed everyone concerned, including Thai masseurs and their customers. So, at a policy level, it suggests that this was a pure immigration operation with no intention of any anti-gay campaign, but at the operational level, the police in charge perhaps couldn't resist injecting their own moralising. For more perspective, what we need to know is whether similar immigration raids are conducted at girlie joints. Perhaps those following other forums like Thaivisa might tell us? If immigration raids are only targetted at gay establishments, that tells us a different story. Some more factoids: Of the 11 foreigners arrested, there was 1 Cambodian, 2 Vietnamese, 4 Lao and 4 Burmese. PeterRS, vinapu and Boy69 2 1 Quote
GWMinUS Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 14 hours ago, hank75 said: Reminds me of when Mekhin was arrestedĀ OH? Tell us that Story... Quote
paulsf Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 Raids are carried out at male and female establishments. Ā Also restaurants. Ā Itās immigration police. Itās foreign workers they are after..Ā these are the kind of businesses that attract these workers. Ā Ā I think they hope big production raids will act as a warning . Ā That never works. Ā Unless the business gets closed there will always be workers to fill the jobs. Ā Ā There was a time back in Twilight a couple of the gogoās would only hire a Thai guys to avoid problems when police decided to check in. Ā Ā Biggest week of the high season. Ā Good time for high profile raids to show off for the big boss. Ā Ā TotallyOz 1 Quote
DivineMadman Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, macaroni21 said: For more perspective, what we need to know is whether similar immigration raids are conducted at girlie joints. The answer is yes they are all the time. Ā Invariably the raids that get the press attention are the ones where there are underage victims of human trafficking found. Ā Once again just worth noting that it's black to business as usual at VCK and Prince - except of course for the time being with only Thai masseurs. Ā I don't think that this is part of an anti-gay anything. Ā (Personally, I think Big Oud is a bigger press whore than Big Joke was and Big OudĀ finds these particular raids get the extra press attention he so craves. Ā Also I think Prince might be about real estate, but that's pure speculation on my part.) Technically, massage is a licensed profession in Thailand. Ā That was tool reportedly used to put Prince on a time out after two raids earlier this year.Ā Quote
