[When it rains - it pours. Relegating my sore throat to 2nd place, yesterday I suffered from a night of violent vomit and diarriah (although not eating local or street food).

Am now confined to my room, drinking Evian water with electrolyte solution (per Raposa's suggestion), and eating bananas.
Were it not for that, this massage report would have been posted yesterday.]

 

At about 3:15 pm I entered Senso's fancy lounge (see foto). Present were the papasan, one patron waiting reading and one masseur. The papasan kind of made a big thing of showing me on his tablet 2 options: 60 minutes - 2800; 90 minutes - 3300.

When I ruled out the only masseur there, he called down 2 more. All 3 were unappealing; more important - none exhibited any motivational gesture.

I asked if I could see on his tablet photos of others; no.
Asked if there is any website or digital platforms for viewing; no. 
I asked when may I come to see more masseurs; "dont know, have 12 now working upstairs, maybe 1 hour."

 

I decided to walk 16 minutes south to Prince. Whom do I see sitting outside the front door? James, the guy I tipped the night before at Atlas.

He was again full of smiles and energy. As we walked in (see foto) he tried to convince me to go with him, but I very politely refused.

On the left there's a glass enclosed large room, where James joined 15 other guys who all sprang to their feet.

The papasan invited me to seat, and showed me an elaborate chart of prices according to time and types of massage & room (see foto). I opted for the basic.

I asked him if any of the boys speak English; he said all of them, which means none.

I asked who has big dick. He pointed out with his laser beam 4 guys, all of them unappealing AND flagmatic. In fact, only 4-5 guys were doing something to catch my attention.

After a minute or two I chose.....James. 1100 paid for the room; 1500 to be paid to the masseur.

 

He led me to a room (see foto), one of 16. Everything there is squeaky clean. We showered together VERY interactively, James chatting and kissing away.

At the massage he said "tell me what you like", which I promptly did. Ever since a genious masseur in Laos showed me that a massage CAN be sexual and therapeutic simultaneously throughout the session (instead of divided in two), I think it SHOULD be.

At first James didn't get the concept, so as he was working on my left foot - I took one of his hands and put it where it counts. From that point we sailed on to a sensual 40 minutes culminating in an oral HE.

 

In the after chat, he told the usual things:

30 y/o, claiming most guys were almost his age.

From a farm near Chiang Mai.

Working 2 years.

Lives in a room alone, because other guys "make noise and drink". Monthly rent is 8000 baht.

Sometimes he gets 1 client a day; 2 is very lucky. Sometimes - no client.

Mainland Chinese clients don't give tips.

 

We showered again. I paid him, adding a 300 tip; in return he surprised me with his calling card (see foto). I'm sorry I didn't ask to take his photo for you guys.

 

 

Mainland China customers only pay shop? But surely the manager has told them about tips to massage guy?

No

He wasn't refering to formal payments, but to tips at bars and tips beyond the obligatory at parlors.

Thanks for the report. I leave for Thailand in a week. I’ll probably have time for only one massage in Bangkok and was planning to start with Senso. Now I’m thinking Prince. Maybe I’ll look for James. 

1 hour ago, 12is12 said:

No

He wasn't refering to formal payments, but to tips at bars and tips beyond the obligatory at parlors.

they should do some research before travelling but partially I understand that, specially if they are first timers as they come from non-tipping culture.

All is needed is patient customer education. 

Before  somebody jumps on me , please consider that for people from tipping places idea of  skipping on tip is as strange as idea of tipping  for people coming from  price includes all culture. How do I know ? I grew up in the second and mid-life moved to the first so I have  first hand experience

James specifically emphsized mainland china, and said there's no such prnlm with chinese from singapore, taiwan, hongkong.

3 hours ago, 12is12 said:

At about 3:15 pm I entered Senso's fancy lounge (see foto). Present were the papasan, one patron waiting reading and one masseur. The papasan kind of made a big thing of showing me on his tablet 2 options: 60 minutes - 2800; 90 minutes - 3300.

When I ruled out the only masseur there, he called down 2 more. All 3 were unappealing; more important - none exhibited any motivational gesture.

I asked if I could see on his tablet photos of others; no.
Asked if there is any website or digital platforms for viewing; no. 
I asked when may I come to see more masseurs; "dont know, have 12 now working upstairs, maybe 1 hour."

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The papasan invited me to seat, and showed me an elaborate chart of prices according to time and types of massage & room (see foto)

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. In fact, only 4-5 guys were doing something to catch my attention.

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in return he surprised me with his calling card (see foto). 

 

 

at least with that all inclusive price it looks that Senso is maintaining price level, give or take. Last time I was there it was 1500 for 1.5 hr session and min tip the same .

I'm surprised by indifference mamasan showed and rightly was 'rewarded' by you leaving shop. Even if in fact he had almost all boys occupied at the moment such harvests don't last forever but memories of poorly treated customers linger for long

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with their price levels at Prince one looks more favorably at deemed  extortionate tips requested by some boys , Chepest 2 hr course 4900, cheapest 3 hr 7200 and I was gasping for air when super hunk  suggested 10000 for overnight ? Not to mention budget friendly 8000 for the same apparently asked  for Jupiter guy I consider best looking there.

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that's correct approach and should not be discounted nor omitted - engage only guys who show any interest in you . Exceptions should be very rare and primed for disappointments.

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are you sure James would be happy you showed his phone number to all here ? Just asking as my experience is both ended, some guys asked to share with my friends who may be interested in custom, others sternly  asked to keep number just for myself.  You did not post his pick so all is Ok from ethics point of view.

 

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

James specifically emphsized mainland china, and said there's no such prnlm with chinese from singapore, taiwan, hongkong.

in general one can safely assume that guys from those three destinations, always open and world welcoming may be more worldly than mainlanders who may be more shielded from outside customs and as result of more nationalistic and inward schooling even less curios about foreign ways

I wouldnt have posted it without his permission

I hope you feel better soon, thanks for report. 

6 hours ago, 12is12 said:

I wouldnt have posted it without his permission

Seems like a nice guy. Will find him at Atlas when I visit this year.

6 hours ago, vinapu said:

in general one can safely assume that guys from those three destinations, always open and world welcoming may be more worldly than mainlanders who may be more shielded from outside customs and as result of more nationalistic and inward schooling even less curios about foreign ways

Don't forget the Chinese from Malaysia!

15 hours ago, vinapu said:

How do I know ? I grew up in the second and mid-life moved to the first so I have  first hand experience

And having been in your company many times I can attest that you are a kind and generous tipper.

In addition, you invented the patented "Vinapu tuck" which from many reports found in this forum many members have embraced this entertaining tipping tradition.

Bravo!!

9 hours ago, bkkmfj2648 said:

And having been in your company many times I can attest that you are a kind and generous tipper.

In addition, you invented the patented "Vinapu tuck" which from many reports found in this forum many members have embraced this entertaining tipping tradition.

 

sometimes I think perhaps too kind and too generous for mine and my wallet's  good, lol

as for vinapu tuck, , I like to take credit where is due but in this case  I did not invent , nor even named it. 

I saw somebody doing that in bar and like an idea so started practicing it everywhere,  l liked it and I had an impression so did boys. At one point I described doing it in one of my posts and somebody ( it could be even you ) named it 'vinapu tuck"  in his response, rest is just history.