balig Posted Sunday at 12:54 AM Posted Sunday at 12:54 AM Hi I saw an advert for an escort in London, they do body to body massage, or sex, and it says escort is 18yo and does outcalls The website says age verified, and they've said in message that they are 18 They look like somebody could think they were 16. Is it safe to go ahead? Are there safe ways to go about it? I thought of meeting them giving them money to book a hotel. That then should ensure they are 18 and be more anonymous for me. What do you think? Thanks Quote
Keithambrose Posted Monday at 04:48 PM Posted Monday at 04:48 PM 1 hour ago, Riobard said: Which escort site? Some are more reliable than others. Quote
Members unicorn Posted Monday at 06:11 PM Members Posted Monday at 06:11 PM On 5/10/2025 at 5:54 PM, balig said: ...The website says age verified, and they've said in message that they are 18... At a minimum, I would ask the website how they verified the age. You might request a consultation from a criminal defense attorney (or barrister, or whatever it is they're called in the UK). That being said, the age of consent in London is 16 (though if money is involved, that makes matters a lot stickier). I'd take a pass on the risk (wouldn't be my type, anyway). However, if you feel confident, the fact that the website said they verified the age should provide some legal protection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_Europe#United_Kingdom_and_Crown_dependencies "The age of consent in England and Wales is 16 regardless of sexual orientation or gender, as specified by the Sexual Offences Act 2003... Because it can be difficult to tell whether a teenager is over 16 or not, for the child sex offences in sections 9–13, it is a defence to show that the defendant reasonably believed the other person was 16 or over (for example, they look mature enough that they could plausibly be 16 and tell the defendant that they are)... Under section 47 it is an offence to pay for or promise payment for sexual services of a person under 18 where the client does not reasonably believe that person is over 18, or in any event for a person under 13...". The only two countries in Europe which have an age of consent of 18 are Turkey and the Vatican. Quote
vinapu Posted Monday at 07:16 PM Posted Monday at 07:16 PM On 5/10/2025 at 8:54 PM, balig said: Hi I saw an advert for an escort in London, they do body to body massage, or sex, and it says escort is 18yo and does outcalls The website says age verified, and they've said in message that they are 18 They look like somebody could think they were 16. Is it safe to go ahead? Are there safe ways to go about it? I thought of meeting them giving them money to book a hotel. That then should ensure they are 18 and be more anonymous for me. What do you think? Thanks that's bordering on dangerous, find somebody you don't have any doubts about age as if he looks 16 to you may look the some to law enforcer or concerned citizen . All arguments about age of consent in such situation remind discussing how hot boiling water really is Quote
floridarob Posted Monday at 07:59 PM Posted Monday at 07:59 PM 1 hour ago, unicorn said: The only two countries in Europe which have an age of consent of 18 are Turkey and the Vatican. 😆 Quote
Members Thomas_88 Posted Tuesday at 02:56 PM Members Posted Tuesday at 02:56 PM Some years ago, a guy who just turned eighteen contacted me. He looked very young so one of the first things I asked was a pic of his identity card, I said he could cover all the info except month & year of birth and his pic. He replied with a pic. Quote
PeterRS Posted Tuesday at 03:18 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:18 PM 23 minutes ago, Thomas_88 said: Some years ago, a guy who just turned eighteen contacted me. He looked very young so one of the first things I asked was a pic of his identity card, I said he could cover all the info except month & year of birth and his pic. He replied with a pic. As far as i am aware the UK does not issue Identity Cards for citizens. You can try a driving licence but they are pretty easy to forge. As would be ID cards issued overseas unless you are a document expert. The only reliable proof is a photocopy of a passport - if he actually has a passport. As @vinapu rightly suggests, unless you are absolutely certain of age it could be dangerous for you. If you can inform readers of the agency's name, some may already have used it and be prepared to vouch for it. If he is working freelance, then the possible degree of danger is increased. Quote
Members Thomas_88 Posted Tuesday at 04:22 PM Members Posted Tuesday at 04:22 PM 1 hour ago, PeterRS said: As far as i am aware the UK does not issue Identity Cards for citizens. You can try a driving licence but they are pretty easy to forge. As would be ID cards issued overseas unless you are a document expert. The only reliable proof is a photocopy of a passport - if he actually has a passport. As @vinapu rightly suggests, unless you are absolutely certain of age it could be dangerous for you... Your're right, the UK doesn't issue identity cards. If he doesn't have a passport I would not hire him. unicorn 1 Quote
Keithambrose Posted Tuesday at 09:37 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:37 PM 6 hours ago, PeterRS said: As far as i am aware the UK does not issue Identity Cards for citizens. You can try a driving licence but they are pretty easy to forge. As would be ID cards issued overseas unless you are a document expert. The only reliable proof is a photocopy of a passport - if he actually has a passport. As @vinapu rightly suggests, unless you are absolutely certain of age it could be dangerous for you. If you can inform readers of the agency's name, some may already have used it and be prepared to vouch for it. If he is working freelance, then the possible degree of danger is increased. Indeed, the UK does not issue identity cards. However, why do you say a driving licence is easy to forge? The same technology is used for your passport as for your driving licence.The licence has most of the same details. Indeed, once, being a seasoned traveller,(!), I forgot my passport, and when I came into the UK, they let me in. They said that this was irregular, but the officer I saw said that so far as he was concerned, the details were good enough. My driving licence has been accepted many times in the US, in lieu of a passport. Quote
PeterRS Posted yesterday at 02:05 AM Posted yesterday at 02:05 AM 4 hours ago, Keithambrose said: why do you say a driving licence is easy to forge? I had assumed that the escort was not intending providing his actual "identity card". Why else would he have mentioned blocking out certain information? It would ony be a copy. I therefore assumed - I believe reasonably - that anyone reading my response would fully understand that by providing a driving licence that would also be a copy. It could hardly be the original as he could not block out details! More importantly, he would also have to see the prospective client in person when showing the original! I have been told that photocopies of driving licences are not that difficult to forge. Quote
