Fitting or poetic death?

[PeterRS]

6 hours ago, a-447 said:

And to say that the death of innocent people, including school children, is the price to pay for the amendment is strange indeed, coming from a so-called Christian. I would have thought 'Thou shalt not kill' would take precedence.

To suggest it is "strange indeed" is putting it far too mildly. In this day and age to suggest that a law passed centuries ago by a new country should remain unchanged given massive changes in society is an outright abomination.

[KeepItReal]

I keep thinking of that old expression: live by the sword, die by the sword. 🤷‍♂️

[Mavica]

1 hour ago, PeterRS said:

To suggest it is "strange indeed" is putting it far too mildly. In this day and age to suggest that a law passed centuries ago by a new country should remain unchanged given massive changes in society is an outright abomination.

The law didn't change.  The interpretation by the U.S. Supreme Court has.  

[Travelingguy]

2 hours ago, Mavica said:

The law didn't change.  The interpretation by the U.S. Supreme Court has.  

For more than 200 years the US Supreme Court has held that the Second Amendment applied to State Militias.  They literally scoffed at the idea that it applied to individuals.  Then Scalia and his pals completely changed the interpretation in line with decades of lobbying by the NRA.

I find it strange that the amendment calls for a well regulated militia, but Scalia and Co think that no such regulations should be applied to any individual who wants to go around using a weapon of war.

[unicorn]

6 hours ago, KeepItReal said:

I keep thinking of that old expression: live by the sword, die by the sword. 🤷‍♂️

It gets even more poignant. Charlie Kirk believed not only that executions should be public, but that children should watch them. One certainly cannot in any way condone assassinations (they're more likely to be counter-productive in any case, since they make martyrs out of the victims). However, at least he had his final wish.

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-death-penalty-public-executions-1873073

"Charlie Kirk, founder and president of the conservative organization Turning Point USA, suggested in a recent episode of The Charlie Kirk Show that children should watch public executions... 

On his weekly panel discussion, "ThoughtCrime," Kirk was discussing death penalties of those convicted of crimes, adding that not only does he believe there should be public executions, but that children should watch them. "Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation...What age should you start to see public executions?" Kirk asked. Kirk, along with his co-hosts Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer and Blake Neff, continued to discuss at what age should children watch the public executions, with one co-host pointing out as young as 12 years old...".

[joizy]

On 9/11/2025 at 8:11 AM, floridarob said:

You want me to “be specific and substantiate my claims”? Cute. It’s almost like you slept through the last 4 years.... or are you trying to play, and be like @Olddaddy?

Undermining elections: Trump pressured Georgia’s Secretary of State to “find 11,780 votes”, pushed fake electors, and tried to strong-arm Pence into tossing out certified results. That’s not democracy — that’s an attempted coup.

Stripping rights: He rolled back LGBTQ protections (trans military ban, healthcare), chipped away at voting rights through DOJ positions and gerrymander-friendly courts, and stacked the deck against reproductive rights.

Packing courts: Sure, presidents nominate judges — but Trump and McConnell rammed through lifetime appointments at record speed, including judges rated unqualified by the ABA, after stonewalling Obama’s nominees (remember Garland?). That’s not normal, it’s stacking the judiciary for minority rule.

 the 2nd Amendment as a “firewall against tyranny,”??

When Trump literally tried to overthrow an election, all those “patriots” with their arsenals didn’t fight tyranny — they enabled it.

Such a joke when they ask you to be specific. As if they are unaware of January 6, the “perfect phone call” to Zelenzky, the call to Raffensburger, sending troops into US cities to round up and intimidate American citizens. I don’t even bother responding to them because they are so unserious.