The Real Reason Donald Trump is Pushing Hard for a Cease Fire / Hamas Deal?

[Mavica]

We'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to have noticed that President Donald J. Trump has been actively campaigning for a Nobel Peace Prize.  It just dawned on me why the hard push on Israel and Hamas to announce a deal during the coming week.  In remarks today he said such a deal would be the most significant peace accord in the region in the past 3,000 years.  Not a word about the ongoing genocide or starvation of non-combatant Gaza residents. The President isn't known for exaggerating, is he?  Well, I just read a notice saying the Nobel Committee is scheduled to announce the 2025 Peace Price honoree - October 10th. Ok, a real deal, the type that has eluded the President all year (with any issue he's dealt with) will be spectacular.  But will the Nobel Committee take into consideration or overlook the President turning the US military on our own citizens and residents?  I certainly hope so, and that would, hopefully, be a disqualifying factor.

 

[vinapu]

fact that he ordered bombing Iran, country USA is not at war with should be enough to deny his claim. Otherwise it will make mockery out of Prize, not that it did not happen before. 

[PeterRS]

Donald Trump can think what he wants, but if he has it in his mind that he's in the running for a Nobel Peace Prize, he's even more out of his mind than we thought. The Prize has not been given to actual peace makers since 1994 when Itzhak Rabin, Shimon Peres and Yasser Arafat shared it. Since then it has more generally been awarded to activist organisations like the Campaign to Ban Land Mines, Medecines Sans Frontiers, the International Atomic Energy Commission and the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons. But when we look more closely, right in their midst can be found Al Gore for his fight on Climate Change, Jimmy Carter and Trump's evil pal Barack Obama. The presence of these three must quite literally infuriate him. But then wIth his negative stance on climate change, alone, he is screwed!

[khaolakguy]

6 hours ago, vinapu said:

fact that he ordered bombing Iran, country USA is not at war with should be enough to deny his claim. Otherwise it will make mockery out of Prize, not that it did not happen before. 

Kissinger being a glaring example.

[Keithambrose]

1 hour ago, khaolakguy said:

Kissinger being a glaring example.

I think it was Tom Lehrer who said, on hearing the news, 'irony is dead'.

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, khaolakguy said:

Kissinger being a glaring example.

or Abiy of Ethiopia who promptly launched assault against his domestic opponents

[PeterRS]

17 hours ago, khaolakguy said:

Kissinger being a glaring example.

Instead of a Peace prize, Kissinger should have been indicted for War Crimes. That man led the USA and its Presidents into many wars resulting in many millions of deaths - of others, very few Americans. I realise that in the USA Congress has to declare war, but more than one President Kissinger served got round that with lies and most of the wars did not affect American lives.  It is fact that Kissinger's interference and agreement resulted in a dreadful blood-stained legacy in more than eight non-USA countries.

We all know about Vietnam and Cambodia. We know little about the 1971 war in former East Pakistan from which emerged the state of Bangladesh. Following the result of a completely free and fair 1970 election in East Pakistan, the dictatorship in West Pakistan was furious. Kissinger quickly met with its military dictator and confirmed the US would give West Pakistan its full support if it went to war. The number of deaths cannot be accurately assessed but some analyses suggest up to 3 million lives were lost. However many, it was justifiably called the forgotten genocide. Between 16 and 17 million East Pakistanis were also displaced.

Before the full scale war developed, Nixon advised by Kissinger repeatedly ignored warnings from the US Consulate in Dhaka that there were massacres happening daily just in Dhaka alone and begging the US to give up its support for West Pakistan which was using US weaponry, much of it secretly supplied, to crush the Bengalis. This conflict has been called "one of the worst moments of blindness in US foreign policy." When it was over Kssinger worked hard to cover up this US involvement in the war and few now remember it. Yet it was unquestionably one of the most dreadful humanitarian crises of the 20th century.

Anyone wishing to know more, should definitely read the thrilling account in Pulitzer Prize-nominated Gary J. Bass's book Blood Telegram. (Arthur Blood was the US Consul in Dhaka). In Kissinger's New York Times obituary, the East Pakistan/Bangladesh genocide did not appear. The Huffington Post obituary named him "America's most notorious war criminal".  

[Moses]

On 10/6/2025 at 4:56 AM, vinapu said:

fact that he ordered bombing Iran, country USA is not at war with should be enough to deny his claim. Otherwise it will make mockery out of Prize, not that it did not happen before. 

Well. It is political thing. Obama got Nobel prize at time when US had running 2 wars. So, it is exactly "happen before".

[iendo]

2 hours ago, Moses said:

Well. It is political thing. Obama got Nobel prize at time when US had running 2 wars. So, it is exactly "happen before".

True, but a clear difference is that Obama's message was unity and Trump is only dividing. Everything he does is clearly transactional and he is being seen as a threat to world peace. Then let's add his interest in Canada, Panama and Greenland. 

In Norway, the committee members have been openly critical or skeptical of Trump’s policies and rhetoric.  And also, Trump has put sanctions on judges of the ICC on multiple occasions. 

And the list is of course much longer. To compare him with Obama is a bit much.

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The Committee wanted to signal a break from the Bush era and reward diplomacy and hope after years of war.

 The only thing the world is hoping for now is that we get through the next 3 years. 

Lastly, the nominations closed on January 31st. With that in mind, his changes are near 0%. 

[jimmie50]

4 hours ago, iendo said:

The only thing the world is hoping for now is that we get through the next 3 years.

At the rate things are going, I don't think we will last that long.  Sad state of affairs.  

[Suckrates]

4 hours ago, iendo said:

True, but a clear difference is that Obama's message was unity and Trump is only dividing. Everything he does is clearly transactional and he is being seen as a threat to world peace. Then let's add his interest in Canada, Panama and Greenland. 

In Norway, the committee members have been openly critical or skeptical of Trump’s policies and rhetoric.  And also, Trump has put sanctions on judges of the ICC on multiple occasions. 

And the list is of course much longer. To compare him with Obama is a bit much.

 The only thing the world is hoping for now is that we get through the next 3 years. 

Lastly, the nominations closed on January 31st. With that in mind, his changes are near 0%. 

If we endure Trump for 3 more years, America WILL BE LOST !  

[unicorn]

Trump's belief that he's in the running for a Nobel Prize only provides more evidence for his delusional state.

[PeterRS]

3 hours ago, unicorn said:

Trump's belief that he's in the running for a Nobel Prize only provides more evidence for his delusional state.

Trump is 79. Clearly showing some signs of cognitative decline.