PeterRS Posted October 28 Posted October 28 In Kuala Lumpur this week, Trump co-signed what he termed "another peace deal", this time to solve the Thailand Cambodia border hostilities. Naturally Trump called it "a momemtous occasion" and claimed credit for having stopped the hostillities. Only, as the BBC correspondent notes, the deal does not solve the root of the century-old problem. It merely pushes a solution further down the road. As Thailand's Foreign Minister told the BBC, it is not a peace deal but "a pathway for peace." What the deal states is that both parties will withdraw their heavy armaments and permit an ASEAN observer team at the border. As importantly they agreed to coordinate in removing land mines from the vicinity. At least the Malaysian Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahmin, in the late 1990s the chosen successor to then PM Dr. Mahathir Mohamad before Mahathir turned on him and had him sent for a lengthy jail term for sodomy - charges most Malaysians believe were totally trumped up due to Mahathr's anger with the way Anwar was dealing with the effects of the Asian Economic Crisis. Anwar's wife and six children finally succeeded in their effort to mobilise the government and the country for his release. As Anwar's reputation increased, he was sen to jail for a further 5-year jail term in 2015. Both convictions were finally overturned. When meeting Trump with cameras rolling, Anwar joked with his visitor, "I was in prison but you amost got there!" https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cy40n3ykx93o Quote
PeterRS Posted October 28 Author Posted October 28 Apologies - this was duplicated in a slightly later post. Quote
PeterRS Posted Monday at 11:31 AM Author Posted Monday at 11:31 AM Certainly he hasn't. The hostitilites have started again. A Thai soldier and 4 Cambodian civilians have been killed. Thailand has launched air strkes and it is estimated several thousand have fled the border area. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c4g5e1p585qt vinapu, TMax and Ruthrieston 3 Quote
Members unicorn Posted yesterday at 12:30 AM Members Posted yesterday at 12:30 AM Forgive my naïveté, but why can't the International Court of Justice decide on the matter? Isn't that what it's for? Either accept the court's authority, or be prepared for international hellfire.... Quote
vinapu Posted yesterday at 02:44 AM Posted yesterday at 02:44 AM 2 hours ago, unicorn said: Forgive my naïveté, but why can't the International Court of Justice decide on the matter? Isn't that what it's for? Either accept the court's authority, or be prepared for international hellfire.... it did long time ago, at least when comes to Preah Vihar temple Quote
Keithambrose Posted yesterday at 08:01 AM Posted yesterday at 08:01 AM 7 hours ago, unicorn said: Forgive my naïveté, but why can't the International Court of Justice decide on the matter? Isn't that what it's for? Either accept the court's authority, or be prepared for international hellfire.... Thailand does not accept the decisions of the ICJ. Quote
PeterRS Posted yesterday at 09:56 AM Author Posted yesterday at 09:56 AM 1 hour ago, Keithambrose said: Thailand does not accept the decisions of the ICJ. And the United States sits very firmly on the fence. Although a member, in 1986 it withdrew from its compulsory jurisdiction. Judge Joan E. Donoghue, the US member of the Court. said, 'There's always been a bit of a love-hate relationship" between the USA and the ICJ. In other words, it will accept the Court's jurisdiction - but only if it approves of the judgement. Ruthrieston and unicorn 1 1 Quote
Members unicorn Posted yesterday at 01:58 PM Members Posted yesterday at 01:58 PM 5 hours ago, Keithambrose said: Thailand does not accept the decisions of the ICJ. Too bad. I'd say let the ICJ decide on the matter. Whichever country doesn't accept the verdict should be open to foreign intervention. Invade the intransigent country, take their king and prime minister, and hold them in The Hague until they apologize to the international community and agree to abide by the ICJ's judgment. This BS has gone on long enough. Quote
Keithambrose Posted yesterday at 02:03 PM Posted yesterday at 02:03 PM 3 minutes ago, unicorn said: Too bad. I'd say let the ICJ decide on the matter. Whichever country doesn't accept the verdict should be open to foreign intervention. Invade the intransigent country, take their king and prime minister, and hold them in The Hague until they apologize to the international community and agree to abide by the ICJ's judgment. This BS has gone on long enough. I'm sure another war would be helpful. Just what we need! khaolakguy 1 Quote
PeterRS Posted 18 hours ago Author Posted 18 hours ago Trump is now claiming that he has got both sides once again to suspend hostilities. Maybe for two weeks, I guess. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0kkyx3vvxo Quote
Ruthrieston Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Nothing that comes out of Orange Face's mouth bares any relation to truth or reality. This sad escalation of violence on the Thai/Cambodian border is awful, and I hope they can calm things down soon, assistance from Malaysia would be more likely to help. vinapu, unicorn and splinter1949 3 Quote
jimmie50 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Ruthrieston said: Nothing that comes out of Orange Face's mouth bares any relation to truth or reality. Truer words have never been written. Sad state of affairs we find ourselves in these days. Depressing. Quote
PeterRS Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago 7 hours ago, PeterRS said: Trump is now claiming that he has got both sides once again to suspend hostilities. Maybe for two weeks, I guess. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0kkyx3vvxo I was too hasty. Fighting has once again restarted. Quote
Members unicorn Posted 9 hours ago Members Posted 9 hours ago 21 hours ago, Keithambrose said: I'm sure another war would be helpful. Just what we need! Well, there is a war. The question is how to stop it. From what I'm gathering, Thailand won't abide by the ICJ, because presumably they have the stronger army, and they believe might makes right. However, if it were the entire world against Thailand, I suppose Thailand would have to accept the verdict of the international community. Quote
jimmie50 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 hours ago, PeterRS said: I was too hasty. Fighting has once again restarted. According to news reports this morning in US, Thailand clearly stated trump doesn't know what he is talking about and there is no agreement for ceasefire. Typical trump claiming credit for something that doesn't even exist. As was already stated, nothing that comes out of his mouth can be considered truth or reality. unicorn 1 Quote
macaroni21 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago BBC headline: Cambodia shuts border crossings with Thailand as fighting continues https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0kkyx3vvxo Cambodia has shut its border crossings with Thailand, as fighting continues between the two forces on Saturday despite US President Donald Trump earlier saying they had agreed to a ceasefire. The crossings will be closed until further notice, according to Cambodia's interior ministry. Earlier, Thai Prime Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said he told Trump a ceasefire would only be possible after Cambodia had withdrawn all its forces and removed landmines. Thai officials said four soldiers were killed on Saturday, as both sides reported continued bombing and artillery exchanges. Cambodia has not been updating its military casualty figure. Cambodia's defence ministry said that Thai fighter jets bombed hotel buildings and a bridge, while Thailand reported several civilians were injured in a Cambodian rocket attack. The four deaths on Saturday bring Thailand's total military death toll since Monday to 15, with 270 others injured. It added that six civilians had also been injured. On Friday, Cambodia said at least 11 civilians had been killed and 59 others injured. At least 700,000 people have been evacuated on both sides of the border. [Story continues with mention of Trump but I don't want to give him any attention.] --- I think most Cambodians had left Thailand earlier in the year when the border dispute first surfaced, if I remember threads from earlier. So, closing the border may not make much difference anymore to the bars and massage parlours in terms of staffing. Quote
