Disrupting the supply lines to Ukraine

[khaolakguy]

Now who could possibly benefit from blowing up one of the major supply lines to Ukraine? Answers on a post card........

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp85g86x0zgo

[Keithambrose]

8 hours ago, khaolakguy said:

Now who could possibly benefit from blowing up one of the major supply lines to Ukraine? Answers on a post card........

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp85g86x0zgo

San Marino?

[unicorn]

So stupid. Instead of intimidating Poland, the bald-headed dumbo is just pissing them off. One of these days some Russian or Belarussian plane will stray into Polish airspace on its way to Kaliningrad, and I hope the Poles shoot the plane down, just like the Turks did. He's already pissed off Lithuania. Now, the smooth-headed idiot pissed off the other country Kaliningrad borders.

 

[Moses]

2 hours ago, unicorn said:

So stupid.

Agree. It is stupid to accuse Russia by British habit "highly likely" without any proof.

Two months ago, Western propaganda media were already screaming at the top of their lungs about 19 "Russian drones." In the end, the only damage that occurred was caused by a NATO aircraft, and not a shred of evidence was found that these were Russian drones or a Ukrainian provocation.

Now,

• when the Minditchgate scandal is raging in Ukraine, when Zelenskyy's friend and closest ally fled Ukraine for Israel to avoid arrest for stealing hundreds of millions of dollars in Western aid,
• when Ukrainian National Security Council Secretary Umerov, also the former Minister of Defense of Ukraine, has been "traveling on business trips" in the Middle East and Europe for two weeks now, avoiding returning to Ukraine where he faces charges of embezzling hundreds of millions of dollars through cashbacks while placing weapons orders,

zelenskiy and Ursula personally desperately need some distracting news.

And the bottom line is that we will once again be left with British "highly likely" and without a single piece of evidence.

[Moses]

Polish PM Tusk: 2 citizens of Ukraine made these diversions on railroad.

https://www.rmf24.pl/polityka/news-tusk-dwaj-ukraincy-odpowiedzialni-za-dywersje-na-kolei,nId,8041661

[Keithambrose]

48 minutes ago, Moses said:

Polish PM Tusk: 2 citizens of Ukraine made these diversions on railroad.

https://www.rmf24.pl/polityka/news-tusk-dwaj-ukraincy-odpowiedzialni-za-dywersje-na-kolei,nId,8041661

Interesting  fake news. The official Polish spokesman has specifically  blamed Russian Special services. 

[Moses]

8 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

Interesting  fake news.

Dear, while page is in Polish, there is video and audio of Tusk speaking ... And rmf24 is one of top Polish radio stations.

[khaolakguy]

Two Ukrainian citizens who have long worked for Russian intelligence have been identified as the suspects behind two acts of sabotage on Poland's rail network, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has said.

One of the suspects had already been convicted in absentia of acts of sabotage in Ukraine, Tusk told Poland's parliament.

From the BBC and other sources reporting what Donald Tusk actually said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gknv8nxlzo

[Keithambrose]

12 minutes ago, khaolakguy said:

Two Ukrainian citizens who have long worked for Russian intelligence have been identified as the suspects behind two acts of sabotage on Poland's rail network, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has said.

One of the suspects had already been convicted in absentia of acts of sabotage in Ukraine, Tusk told Poland's parliament.

From the BBC and other sources reporting what Donald Tusk actually said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gknv8nxlzo

Thanks, just seen that. Moses omitted the part about working for Russian intelligence.

[Moses]

Finally. That exactly I wrote: "two citizens of Ukraine".

[Moses]

8 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

Moses omitted the part about working for Russian intelligence.

Because there is no proof of that... For now they knows only names.

By the way: today  "A huge corruption scandal threatens Ukraine’s government"
https://www.economist.com/europe/2025/11/17/a-huge-corruption-scandal-threatens-ukraines-government

All parties besides party of Zelensky today blocked work of parliament and demand resignation of government. Also resignation of "right hand" of Zelensky - Yermak, head of Zelensky's administration. 

If they will get it, then days of Zelensky as a president of Ukraine will be counted.

 

[khaolakguy]

59 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

Thanks, just seen that. Moses omitted the part about working for Russian intelligence.

Funny that!

He also omitted the fact that Tusk said that one of the men had previously been convicted of sabotage.

[unicorn]

5 hours ago, Moses said:

Polish PM Tusk: 2 citizens of Ukraine made these diversions on railroad.

https://www.rmf24.pl/polityka/news-tusk-dwaj-ukraincy-odpowiedzialni-za-dywersje-na-kolei,nId,8041661

You're so predictable. You imply that Ukraine was behind this, when your own reference states the exact opposite. This is a direct translation of the Polish article (for some reason, you foolishly believed none of the readers had the technology to translate Polish??):

"Two Ukrainian citizens collaborating with Russian intelligence are responsible for the recent acts of sabotage on the railway, Prime Minister Donald Tusk told the Sejm. He added that the men fled Poland through the border crossing in Terespol... Donald Tusk announced that both Ukrainians identified as saboteurs reached Poland from Belarus. One of them was convicted by a court in Lviv in May  for acts of sabotage in Ukraine. The other, a native of Donbas, previously worked in the prosecutor's office... Referring to the details of the acts of sabotage, the Prime Minister said that a steel clamp attached to the tracks near the Puławy station was intended to cause the train to derail... The driver did not even notice the incident while passing through the place , he said... The Prime Minister emphasized that the Russians are interested in fueling chaos, panic, and speculation...".

Incidentally, by calling those from Donbas Ukrainians (which they are), you're agreeing that Russian claims to sovereignty in that region are bogus (though presumably those from Donbas speak Russian rather than Ukrainian). It wouldn't surprise me if Poland's next step will be to fully close the border between Poland and Belarus.

[Moses]

3 hours ago, unicorn said:

Incidentally, by calling those from Donbas Ukrainians (which they are)

Can you read? Or you can only write? Please quote me with "Ukrainians":

8 hours ago, Moses said:

2 citizens of Ukraine

 

[unicorn]

Dude, in English, a citizen of Ukraine is called a Ukrainian. If you're a citizen of Russia, you're Russian--even if you have dual citizenship.

[Moses]

Dude, that's your problem. English is poor for nuances. While you visiting Ukraine, be careful with that. If you will call "Ukrainian" (in means of ethnicity) Tatar, Russian or Moldovan with Ukrainian passport, you will get huge problem.

[PeterRS]

1 hour ago, Moses said:

Dude, that's your problem. English is poor for nuances. While you visiting Ukraine, be careful with that. If you will call "Ukrainian" (in means of ethnicity) Tatar, Russian or Moldovan with Ukrainian passport, you will get huge problem.

Oh really? The same sort of problem an Englishman, Scotsman, Welshman and Northern Irishman experience in the United Kingdom? As a Scot, I do not like being called an Englishman, but I am perfectly happy being called a citizen of the United Kingdom.

[kokopelli3]

1 hour ago, PeterRS said:

Oh really? The same sort of problem an Englishman, Scotsman, Welshman and Northern Irishman experience in the United Kingdom? As a Scot, I do not like being called an Englishman, but I am perfectly happy being called a citizen of the United Kingdom.

A serious question, does the word "Brit" refer to  Englishman, Scotsman, Welshman and Northern Ireland? And if so, would you or others take any offense to someone calling you a Brit? I always wondered about the meaning of Brit and how to properly use it.

[Keithambrose]

2 hours ago, kokopelli3 said:

A serious question, does the word "Brit" refer to  Englishman, Scotsman, Welshman and Northern Ireland? And if so, would you or others take any offense to someone calling you a Brit? I always wondered about the meaning of Brit and how to properly use it.

Varies from person to person, I expect. The naming of the entire area is interesting. Constituent countries are England, Wales, Scotland  and Northern Ireland.  England and Wales have the same legal system. Scotland  has a separate legal system.  They were, after all, a separate Country. Also Northern  Ireland.  There is no such thing as British law.

 

England, Wales, and Scotland make up 'Great Britain'. The United Kingdom also includes Northern Ireland,  hence 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ', or the UK, for short. So, in theory, a Brit can come from England, Wales  or Scotland,  but not Northern Ireland!

[floridarob]

3 hours ago, kokopelli3 said:

A serious question, does the word "Brit" refer to  Englishman, Scotsman, Welshman and Northern Ireland? And if so, would you or others take any offense to someone calling you a Brit? I always wondered about the meaning of Brit and how to properly use it.

I just had this conversation with @BjornAgain last week.... I wish I remembered the explanation 🥺

[Moses]

Finally, information about high-level corruption scandal in Ukraine - "Mindich-gate" - translated to English https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/19/ukraine-energy-sector-corruption-crisis

Right now ongoing next one scandal - about corruption in Ukrainian ministry of defense with kickbacks for weaponry orders. You'll get it in 2-3 days as usual.

Meanwhile Ukrainian parliament is blocked by parties other than Zelenskiy's party. They demand resignation of govt and many call for resignation of Zelenskiy and for forming "Government of National Salvation" without Zelenskiy and his party. 

4+ hours of parliament session (Ukrainian language)

[vinapu]

9 hours ago, Moses said:

Dude, that's your problem. English is poor for nuances. While you visiting Ukraine, be careful with that. If you will call "Ukrainian" (in means of ethnicity) Tatar, Russian or Moldovan with Ukrainian passport, you will get huge problem.

this time I agree with you . Perhpas won't get into problem but certainly one will be corrected

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

Varies from person to person, I expect. The naming of the entire area is interesting. Constituent countries are England, Wales, Scotland  and Northern Ireland.  England and Wales have the same legal system. Scotland  has a separate legal system.  They were, after all, a separate Country. Also Northern  Ireland.  There is no such thing as British law.

 

England, Wales, and Scotland make up 'Great Britain'. The United Kingdom also includes Northern Ireland,  hence 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ', or the UK, for short. So, in theory, a Brit can come from England, Wales  or Scotland,  but not Northern Ireland!

clear and concise , sorry I run out of 'likes' at the moment

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, Moses said:

Finally, information about high-level corruption scandal in Ukraine - "Mindich-gate" - translated to English https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/19/ukraine-energy-sector-corruption-crisis

 

 

that's the difference between Ukraine and Russia.

News from Ukraine are seeping in, in Russia culprit would quietly disappear in handy car or plane crash or got elevated to higher position and it would be just another ' vsio normal'no " day

[Moses]

7 minutes ago, vinapu said:

that's the difference between Ukraine and Russia.

it is installed by Western propaganda "urban legend" for to make Ukraine to look "democratic"... by fact Ukraine and Russia are the same...

Have you seen NABU (anticorruption burau) in the news? Zelenskiy made 2 efforts already for to dissolve it. Last time - in August'25: all detectives and prosecutors from NABU were arrested in August by Ukrainian secret service (I think at that time Zelenskiy got information who's voices are on NABU's tapes). Only fast intervention of EU stopped it - EU just immediately switched off all  money supply lines. And after 5 days NABU again has been restored. 

So, thisу current scandals are going not because UA is democratic country, but because EU forced current situation against Zelenskiy's will.