Disrupting the supply lines to Ukraine

[iendo]

3 minutes ago, Moses said:

Personally, I think he was deeply disliked in the Council. And the personal relationships between the deputies resulted in this outcome.

If someone can receive seven years in prison because he is disliked by other council members, that actually proves my point about the system not being free. In a functioning legal system, personal relationships or office politics cannot send a person to prison. Only the law and the facts of the case should matter.

So if your explanation is that he was punished because colleagues disliked him, that makes the situation even worse, not better.

[Moses]

8 minutes ago, iendo said:

Maria Ponomarenko
Journalist from Barnaul

The same March'22

[Moses]

3 minutes ago, iendo said:

So if your explanation is that he was punished because colleagues disliked him, that makes the situation even worse, not better.

See above about McCarthyism. Nothing new for human civilization. 

I'm going to bed - 2AM here

[iendo]

3 minutes ago, Moses said:

See above about McCarthyism. Nothing new for human civilization. 

I'm going to bed - 2AM here

McCarthyism is also remembered as a period of political repression and fear, which is exactly why it is viewed negatively today. If the best comparison is another period of political persecution, then that only reinforces my point, not the opposite.

Sleep well.

[unicorn]

I would advise you to stop wasting your time, @iendo. The board's veteran liar will never admit (much less apologize) for his lies. He will come up with more lies, resort to whataboutism, or deflect to completely irrelevant discussions, such as whether or not Ukrainian citizens are Ukrainian. Apologize for falsely implying Ukraine was behind the sabotage in Poland? Don't make me laugh. There is no need to try to "convince" him, since he already knows he's lying. He's been caught lying red-handed multiple times, and always resorts to irrelevant deflections and/or more lies.

[Keithambrose]

13 hours ago, floridarob said:

I just had this conversation with @BjornAgain last week.... I wish I remembered the explanation 🥺

Another wrinkle is sport. For historical reasons, the 4 constituent countries all compete separately in international competitions in soccer, cricket (not Wales), and other sports.  For the Olympics,  it's one group, the United Kingdom. This causes issues with the soccer team,  since England is so dominant.  Just to confuse further, Rugby Union has England, Wales, Scotland,  and Ireland,  but in this case Ireland includes Northern Ireland  and the separate country of Eire, Southern Ireland.  Their regional championship includes 4 provinces, 3 from Eire, one from Northern  Ireland.  All international  matches are played in Dublin! For Old Daddys information,  Dublin is in Eire!

 

 

[vinapu]

4 hours ago, Moses said:

IAnd state don't need to suppress such individuals - public will do it instead.

shame  on the  public then. Those are descendants of public which cried after Stalin died even if they knew their relatives perished in Gulags. 

They are millions of decent people in Russia , they are just silenced, as always  , by their oppressive state

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, Moses said:

The Russian state isn't as cannibalistic as the Western media portrays it. The state does something much simpler and easier: it creates conditions in which such people prefer to leave Russia. Not because it's dangerous to live here, but because they can't make a living here. No one hires them here, and because of sanctions, the West can't support them here—it's impossible to transfer money here. So they leave,.....

 

this is exactly what makes Russia cannibalistic state - pushing own people out for thay can avoid being eaten alive by their own country