Ladyboy bars

[Olddaddy]

I'm thinking of opening up a bar in the next few years

im still planning it although it might lead to more a LadyBoy bar  than a boy bar 

Have you ever noticed the majority of Ladyboy bars are NOT in the gay areas but in the straight areas 

I'm thinking will a Ladyboy bar in the  Jomtien complex do any good ?

I'm thinking introducing Muay Thai🥊🥊 boxing ring and encouraging the crowd to fight the ladyboy boxers 

I will have to try to bring a different clientele into that area ,young British and Aussie guys already 🍷 🍻 coming into the complex ready for my Muay Thai ladyboy bar ready to have a good time ,groups of young British Aussie arab guys 

Will a Ladyboy bar survive in the Jomtien complex?

 

[Keithambrose]

1 hour ago, Olddaddy said:

I'm thinking of opening up a bar in the next few years

im still planning it although it might lead to more a LadyBoy bar  than a boy bar 

Have you ever noticed the majority of Ladyboy bars are NOT in the gay areas but in the straight areas 

I'm thinking will a Ladyboy bar in the  Jomtien complex do any good ?

I'm thinking introducing Muay Thai🥊🥊 boxing ring and encouraging the crowd to fight the ladyboy boxers 

I will have to try to bring a different clientele into that area ,young British and Aussie guys already 🍷 🍻 coming into the complex ready for my Muay Thai ladyboy bar ready to have a good time ,groups of young British Aussie arab guys 

Will a Ladyboy bar survive in the Jomtien complex?

 

What have you been smoking?

[Olddaddy]

🍷🍷🍷

[Department_Of_Agriculture]

5 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

What have you been smoking?

I think he sa-moke ladyboy...

 

 

[floridarob]

12 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

I'm thinking of opening up a bar in the next few years

Running out of new craziness to talk about , back to opening a bar again?

[Kiwi306]

I'm attracted to masculine men.

Lady boys do nothing for me 

[Olddaddy]

27 minutes ago, Kiwi306 said:

I'm attracted to masculine men.

Lady boys do nothing for me 

Oh you & me , although I'm more into 35yo  plus masculine guys

[Travellerdave]

Ladyboys mean nothing to me. Guys who fuck ladyboys think they are not gay !

[spoon]

9 hours ago, Travellerdave said:

Ladyboys mean nothing to me. Guys who fuck ladyboys think they are not gay !

How about gays who fuck transman? Are they gay or straight? 

[Travellerdave]

You have got me with that one spoon. I’m not clever enough to think it through. Perhaps I should try AI

[Olddaddy]

6 hours ago, spoon said:

How about gays who fuck transman? Are they gay or straight? 

Lol...  Good point 😂

[Londoner]

Two straight men I know- yes, I do mix outside my community- are obsessive about Thai ladyboys....at a distance I must emphasise.   

 I'm no expert but I have watched the two-way transition of P's cousin, whom I first met as a  twenty-three year old  in 2006. He was a good-looking, rather femme gay guy.   Over the next eight years I watched him slowly but inexorably become "a lady". Hair, jewellery, dresses, speech, behaviour... step by step he was transformed. 

 About thirteen years ago he became a mamasan in one of the "men for ladies" clubs in Third Road, even appearing on Thai TV. 

Then, when he reached forty, he started moving in the opposite direction and now dresses as a man, if a little eccentrically; and the cosmetics and the dresses are gone.

P tells me he still uses Khatoey Argot, of which I understand not a word, but this remains the last vestige of his rather odd gender-journey.

[Vessey]

There is a very fluid grey area between, Twinks, Femme-Boys and Ladyboys themselves.

Take, just for example, a very pretty twink boy from M Bar say in the Jomtien Complex (they have many!), grow their hair, take off their jeans and put them in a dress instead, add a little (more 😅) make-up, and lo and behold you are looking at a ladyboy.

Conversely, take a 'pre-op' ladyboy from, say 'Katoyes Are Us', put them in jeans, cut their hair, wipe off their make-up, and all of a sudden you are looking at a Twink.

Yes I know that it can be more complicated than that - personality traites etc. etc., but fundamentaly the difference is one of perception rather than physique? And here I am obvioulsy talkinging about pre-operation ladyboys without any 'bolt-ons' or the 'cut'. 

Somewhere inconveniently buried in the photo archive on  my hard-drive I have a number of 'just for fun', then and now pics, of boys from boy bars that I knew dressing-up as ladies for fun, for parties, or to just see what they looked like.

I don't think you would do well in Jomtien Complex with a Ladyboy Bar, there are too many prejudices amongst potential customers IMHO. But you could open (another) Twink bar and, say every month, put on a cross-dressing competition for your boys (with money prizes obviously)? I bet the reactions (boys and customers) would be interesting?

 

[BjornAgain]

9 hours ago, spoon said:

How about gays who fuck transman? Are they gay or straight? 

Better still @Olddaddy, setup a Tradies bar. The boys can be offed to partake any number of jobs, check your plumbing, wire you up, mow your bush, survey your area, cook up a treat or just scrub your carrot, put up shelves, plowing your land, vitamin D supplements, games of bashing the Bishop or bumping uglies, sweeping the chimney, the possibilities are endless!

Full Aussi Tradie attire as standard.

Redo the old Skyhooks classic,  "Thai Boys in Uniform".

[Olddaddy]

Women in uniform.. .🎶🎶🎶

[Londoner]

3 hours ago, Vessey said:

There is a very fluid grey area between, Twinks, Femme-Boys and Ladyboys themselves.

Take, just for example, a very pretty twink boy from M Bar say in the Jomtien Complex (they have many!), grow their hair, take off their jeans and put them in a dress instead, add a little (more 😅) make-up, and lo and behold you are looking at a ladyboy.

Conversely, take a 'pre-op' ladyboy from, say 'Katoyes Are Us', put them in jeans, cut their hair, wipe off their make-up, and all of a sudden you are looking at a Twink.

Yes I know that it can be more complicated than that - personality traites etc. etc., but fundamentaly the difference is one of perception rather than physique? And here I am obvioulsy talkinging about pre-operation ladyboys without any 'bolt-ons' or the 'cut'. 

Somewhere inconveniently buried in the photo archive on  my hard-drive I have a number of 'just for fun', then and now pics, of boys from boy bars that I knew dressing-up as ladies for fun, for parties, or to just see what they looked like.

I don't think you would do well in Jomtien Complex with a Ladyboy Bar, there are too many prejudices amongst potential customers IMHO. But you could open (another) Twink bar and, say every month, put on a cross-dressing competition for your boys (with money prizes obviously)? I bet the reactions (boys and customers) would be interesting?

 

 

[Londoner]

As Vessey says, it is not a question of physique. My friend began his journey as a "funny khatoey", that is participating in Thai-orientated khatoey shows.  I saw one in Pattaya; it presented not only the attractive but competitions for the ugly, for the over-thirties, for the overweight- "Ms Jumbo"- and for the comic. He won the "comic" prize.  

Another strange manifestation of this phenomenon  is in the rural area where P lives, where two very young boys- I mean pre-pubescent- are accepted by the community as prototypes for  ladyhood.  I was astonished also to hear  that the school he attended as teenager held a khatoey show. This was thirty plus years ago; I suspect that attitudes may have changed.  

[Keithambrose]

6 hours ago, Vessey said:

There is a very fluid grey area between, Twinks, Femme-Boys and Ladyboys themselves.

Take, just for example, a very pretty twink boy from M Bar say in the Jomtien Complex (they have many!), grow their hair, take off their jeans and put them in a dress instead, add a little (more 😅) make-up, and lo and behold you are looking at a ladyboy.

Conversely, take a 'pre-op' ladyboy from, say 'Katoyes Are Us', put them in jeans, cut their hair, wipe off their make-up, and all of a sudden you are looking at a Twink.

Yes I know that it can be more complicated than that - personality traites etc. etc., but fundamentaly the difference is one of perception rather than physique? And here I am obvioulsy talkinging about pre-operation ladyboys without any 'bolt-ons' or the 'cut'. 

Somewhere inconveniently buried in the photo archive on  my hard-drive I have a number of 'just for fun', then and now pics, of boys from boy bars that I knew dressing-up as ladies for fun, for parties, or to just see what they looked like.

I don't think you would do well in Jomtien Complex with a Ladyboy Bar, there are too many prejudices amongst potential customers IMHO. But you could open (another) Twink bar and, say every month, put on a cross-dressing competition for your boys (with money prizes obviously)? I bet the reactions (boys and customers) would be interesting?

 

It would be interesting  if you could find the then and now pics. I read somewhere that there is a successful ladyboy bar in Bangkok,  in Nana? Anyone know that bar?

[kram987]

4 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

It would be interesting  if you could find the then and now pics. I read somewhere that there is a successful ladyboy bar in Bangkok,  in Nana? Anyone know that bar?

 It’s been years but on my early trips to Thailand I stayed near Nana and saw lots of Khatoy around and entering Nana and saw several in the elevator with their dates….

Funny to me I remember an a tour there were three Australians 2 guys and a woman scandalizing the Indian family up front.  One of their stories was that two had taken the third to Nana where he got drunk and made out with a ladyboy and got beat up a bit for his response after reaching down….

Also I remember Bangkok Boi mentioning such clubs in Nana. I assume nothing has changed.

[mauRICE]

22 minutes ago, kram987 said:

I assume nothing has changed.

Well, that depends on whether they are transitioning or not.

[kram987]

To address the original idea. If you do it I think you will need to have a stage for dance numbers.  For a name I’m thinking OldMommy’s Golden Taps.

you do know haw tap, right?  If not you still have time to learn.

[mauRICE]

1 hour ago, kram987 said:

For a name I’m thinking OldMommy’s Golden Taps.

If the bar is to be in Jomtien Complex, may I humbly suggest the following names:

Tranny Pines

Prune Paradise

Pacemakers and Pumps

Swansongs

The Gramophone

Trans Hades or that old classic,

God's Waiting Room. 

Names inspired by snippets of the Venue and M2M shows and audience I caught on social media last night. 

[Olddaddy]

2 hours ago, kram987 said:

To address the original idea. If you do it I think you will need to have a stage for dance numbers.  For a name I’m thinking OldMommy’s Golden Taps.

you do know haw tap, right?  If not you still have time to learn.

Or Gold Faucets ! 

[Olddaddy]

1 hour ago, mauRICE said:

If the bar is to be in Jomtien Complex, may I humbly suggest the following names:

Tranny Pines

Prune Paradise

Pacemakers and Pumps

Swansongs

The Gramophone

Trans Hades or that old classic,

God's Waiting Room. 

Names inspired by snippets of the Venue and M2M shows and audience I caught on social media last night. 

Last one is good 😊 

[kram987]

7 minutes ago, Olddaddy said:

Or Gold Faucets ! 

Golden taps works better for tap dancing lady boys