PeterRS Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago One of Britain's fallouts from the Epstein scandal has been the sacking of a man who has been almost at the centre of much of British and European politics for almost 30 years, the British Ambassador to Washington Lord Peter Mandelson. There is now an enquiry as to whether he might have given away state secrets to Epstein. My own politics aside, I have always found Mandelson a somewhat creepy individual. It has nothing to do with his being gay. It is on the political influence he has exerted when he seemed to have little importance other than having been a key PR figure responsible for the election of Tony Blair to the PM's job in 1997. I found him creepy because I rarely believed what he said. To me, looking closely at his eyes gave his game away. When someone is trying to convince you of something and he knows that he has an ulterior motive, that person frequently cannot stare you straight in the eye. I found that with much of what Mandelson uttered over the years. I started looking more carefully at eye movements when a youngster and Harold Wilson was the Labour government's Prime Minister. Unless reading from a teleprompter, he could never keep his eyes straight ahead, always looking to the side momentarily, so much so that even I as a political neophyte then could tell he was lying. Once when the subject of a 'live' interview on the weekly news Panorama programme about the Vietnam War with the BBC's brilliant, knowledgable - and subsequently reveald as gay - reporter James Mossman, his words twisted and turned and his eyes darted about. Apart from his obvious discomfort, you could tell just from his eyes that he was lying. Spinning the truth - or outright lying - is now part and parcel of political life. Some like Trump have been lying for so many decades it has become second nature and his eyes give little away. But for lesser experienced public figures, even today I find their eyes often show it! vinapu, Ruthrieston and jimmie50 2 1 Quote
jimmie50 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, PeterRS said: Some like Trump have been lying for so many decades it has become second nature I honestly believe that trump has lied so much for such a long time that he actually believes his lies. They are his own reality. Weird. PeterRS, floridarob and Ruthrieston 3 Quote
floridarob Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, jimmie50 said: They are his own reality. Oh, he knows..... Quote
vinapu Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 9 hours ago, jimmie50 said: I honestly believe that trump has lied so much for such a long time that he actually believes his lies. They are his own reality. Weird. only 2 more years , if that much Quote
Members Suckrates Posted 3 hours ago Members Posted 3 hours ago 22 minutes ago, vinapu said: only 2 more years , if that much Quote
Keithambrose Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, vinapu said: only 2 more years , if that much Nearly 3! vinapu 1 Quote
vinapu Posted 44 minutes ago Posted 44 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Keithambrose said: Nearly 3! hopes are , he may be tempered after midterms Quote
floridarob Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago 1 minute ago, vinapu said: hopes are , he may be tempered after midterms most likely votes/voters will be tempered at midterms if they get their way... Quote