57 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

As you suggested some days ago, let's finally agree on this one to disagree.

very noble undertaking

38 minutes ago, vinapu said:

very noble undertaking

That's kind. But sorry to say @Enchanted_Elixir is still on some sort of silly crusade, so I have been forced to respond by opening a new thread in the hope that the whole matter is very soon at an end.

36 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

That's kind. 

I know

But I do hope this stupid controversy will now fade after going on for about a year.

4 hours ago, PeterRS said:

But I do hope this stupid controversy will now fade after going on for about a year.

But only if you have the last word, right?!

54 minutes ago, khaolakguy said:

But only if you have the last word, right?!

Of course not. It takes two to end a controversy - as you might wish to remind Trump.

52 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

It takes two to end a controversy...

Not necessarily. Often times silence is a reply and an end unto itself.

On 3/30/2026 at 11:46 AM, Enchanted_Elixir said:

Have you been this pompous in all your 15 years on the forum?

Sometimes  worse.

On 3/29/2026 at 11:23 PM, vinapu said:

Will not surprise me at all as it supports point I made earlier in the thread that locals  have their own sources of paid sex , haircuts  and other noble services inaccessible to occasional visitors and thus their pricing may be different.

I think the difference in pricing is sometimes overstated. If you disregard what the newbie tourist would pay. The difference in pricing reflects the market segment you’re operating in, as the opening poster was not clear about. You go out of CBD and you pay less, but you may sacrifice convenience and accessibility. Thais who go to zoo spa in Sukhumvit pay 3000 Baht in tip for a masseur with model like appearance and report the same low level of service and dissatisfaction. They go to Jey spa and pay the same and the reviews are glowing.

There might be a price difference in regards to women clients:

Here is an excerpt about straight men:

«Among workers in various types of sex venues, men working in host bars claim to receive more female clients than gay men. The fact that they attract more female clients than their colleagues engaged in other types of male sex work makes them proud and bolsters their masculine, heterosexual identities. Some of them claim to provide services to women for free, or at a lower rate than they charge gay male clients.”»

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14672715.2023.2221679#d1e137

9 hours ago, Enchanted_Elixir said:

I think the difference in pricing is sometimes overstated. If you disregard what the newbie tourist would pay. The difference in pricing reflects the market segment you’re operating in, as the opening poster was not clear about. You go out of CBD and you pay less, but you may sacrifice convenience and accessibility.

Excellent perceptive post.

13 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

Sometimes  worse.

Written by a poster whose posts are usually just one line agreements or disagreements. Funny he only started bashing me after we had met for a meal a couple of times and then he broke Board rules by publishing details of PMs. Fire away Mr. Lawyer. But you are not the judge!

10 hours ago, Enchanted_Elixir said:

They go to Jey spa and pay the same and the reviews are glowing.
 

I'm not surprised

30 minutes ago, PeterRS said:

only started bashing me after we had met for a meal a couple of times 

poor choice of restaurant perhpas ? Or horror of horrors , you drink red wine to white meat ?

1 minute ago, vinapu said:

poor choice of restaurant perhpas ? Or horror of horrors , you drink red wine to white meat ?

Much more simple! Pad Thai with a vodka tonic! LOL

5 hours ago, vinapu said:

poor choice of restaurant perhpas ? Or horror of horrors , you drink red wine to white meat ?

Red wine with fish!!

5 hours ago, Keithambrose said:

Red wine with fish!!

my favorite combination

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

my favorite combination

Philistine! See 'From Russia with Love', where Bond identified fake Engish guy,  on that basis! (I accept, however, that tastes have changed'.)

 

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

my favorite combination

Carp with red wine?

I go by Katherine Whitehorn's (author of Cooking in a Bedsitter) rule:

Red wine doesn't go with carpets.

Agree a full bodied red would overshadow the subtleties of fish, however a Beaujolais Nouveau being a versatile little number goes well with charcuterie, poached / cold smoked salmon and the classic pepperoni pizza.

As for carpets, the Wetherspoons experience is one to experience if you haven't already.