Dannyxxx Posted Sunday at 08:11 PM Posted Sunday at 08:11 PM Hey guys. I’m sorry if this post is not appropriate for this forum but I know you guys have a wealth of knowledge and expertise about Southeast Asia. I’ve been planning a trip for months now to Bangkok, Hanoi, Da Nang, and Hochiminh City. I keep hearing about potential jet fuel shortages in Southeast Asia and am trying to make the wisest decisions so I don’t end up stranded in Thailand or Vietnam. I’m arriving in Bangkok on March 31st. I already refunded my flights and hotels for Hanoi and Da Nang. I think I’ll be staying in Bangkok for 7 nights and then fly to Hochiminh city for five nights before flying to South Korea then back home to Florida from there. My biggest worry is that my Vietnam Airlines flight from SGN to ICN gets cancelled or delayed which would make me miss my connection in Seoul and Seattle. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I’m planning to hit up Freshboys and Goodboys. Also Wabi Sabi Massage and Kmanspa. Maybe I’ll try some other shops too since I’ll be on an extended stay. I plan to post live trip reports while there. I’m wondering if it’s best to reschedule my trip for later in the year or just go through with it. Thanks for any advice. Quote
Members daydreamer Posted yesterday at 12:01 AM Members Posted yesterday at 12:01 AM 3 hours ago, Dannyxxx said: My biggest worry is that my Vietnam Airlines flight from SGN to ICN gets cancelled or delayed which would make me miss my connection in Seoul and Seattle. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Your concern about possibly missing your connection in Incheon is certainly warranted, given the expected jet fuel shortage in Vietnam beginning next week. Some articles speak of impending jet fuel shortages, and others reference expected kerosene shortages in Vietnam, but both fuels are nearly identical. In fact, jet fuel is refined kerosene. Jet fuel A is what the commercial airlines and military aircraft use. It is ultra-clean kerosene, with an anti-freezing agent blended into it, to prevent any traces of water in the fuel from freezing at high altitude, and possibly blocking fuel lines. Water can form in fuel tanks from condensation, due to temperature variations. If your Vietnam segment can be cancelled with a refund, I would skip Saigon for this trip, and plan to stay the extra five nights in Thailand instead. Of course, that would be dependent on the availability of a flight from Bangkok to Incheon. Dannyxxx, mauRICE, floridarob and 1 other 3 1 Quote
Dannyxxx Posted yesterday at 12:42 AM Author Posted yesterday at 12:42 AM Thanks! Unfortunately i booked a really nice non refundable hotel room in Hochiminh City for three nights using 40k Chase points. I could cut my losses and skip the Vietnam segment of the trip. If i did that i would book a flight to Seoul using Air France miles on Shanghai airlines from BKK-ICN with a short layover in Shanghai. I’m leaning towards keeping the Viet part of the trip. My friend that is taking the trip with me is half Vietnamese and has always wanted to see Vietnam. I may make a last minute decision while in Bangkok. It seems like Thailand will not be as impacted by the jet fuel shortage as Vietnam will be. I plan to get plenty of massages while in Bangkok. My friend is fully hetero so he will likely find some sexy ladies to enjoy while i’m doing my thing😁 Quote
Members daydreamer Posted yesterday at 01:13 AM Members Posted yesterday at 01:13 AM I agree, it appears that several Asian countries are either curtailing fuel exports or banning them entirely. Thailand's jet fuel forecast doesn't look as dire as that of Vietnam, beginning next week. This article linked below says Vietnam imports more than 60% of their jet fuel from Thailand and China (until now). They also buy jet fuel from Singapore, but those shipments have been reduced. I don't see any country in that area that is willing to supply the amount of jet fuel Vietnam will be trying to purchase for Vietnam airlines to continue flights uninterrupted in April. I wish you luck If you decide to travel to Vietnam next month. https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/vietnam-braces-flight-cuts-april-after-china-thailand-ban-jet-fuel-exports-2026-03-16/ Dannyxxx 1 Quote
hank75 Posted yesterday at 01:42 AM Posted yesterday at 01:42 AM I believe the panic over jet fuel in Vietnam has subsided and there is government commitment to keeping state airlines running. Travel insurance is a must. That said I’m in agreement to cut your losses and do an extended Thailand trip. You’ve cancelled the two more enjoyable cities (Hanoi and Danang). HCM isn’t that enjoyable by comparison and five nights is a very long time for that city. You are also going right before Tet. Traffic is usually terrible and there may be some closures as people try to go back to their hometowns early due to fuel shortages. Look up Vietnam travel forums for more accurate news but I found this post (in reference to Tet 2026 but before the war started) Visiting HCMC right before Tet is definitely an interesting time, and your concern about shops closing down is valid. Many local, family-run businesses, especially smaller shops and street food vendors, will indeed start closing a few days before Tet to prepare for the holiday and travel back to their hometowns. This means that the vibrant street life you might expect for casual eating and shopping could be noticeably quieter in many areas. Major shopping malls and larger supermarkets will likely remain open longer, possibly with reduced hours as Tet approaches, but the atmosphere will be very focused on holiday preparations rather than regular commerce. Dining can also become a bit trickier, as many local eateries will be closed. However, there are still options, especially in tourist-focused areas or larger hotels, but you might need to be more intentional about where you go. If you're looking to still experience the food scene or find specific shopping experiences, sometimes looking into pre-arranged activities can be helpful during this period. You might find services that specifically cater to visitors during the Tet period, like food tours or private shopping experiences with local guides who know what's open. Platforms like Viator are often used to find and book various tours and activities, and they list operators with reviews, which can give you confidence in what you're booking, especially when many local businesses are winding down. It's really about managing expectations and being prepared for a different kind of HCMC experience. God bless. Unless you’re thoroughly bored of Thailand there are so many great cities to explore and if you don’t want to fly, Pattaya and Koh Samet are a great combination. Dannyxxx 1 Quote
vinapu Posted yesterday at 02:04 AM Posted yesterday at 02:04 AM while hank75 is right that Hanoi or/and Da Nang are preferable to Saigon, damage is already done. And because of that I'd follow your own advice and make last minute decision while in Bangkok, if only because your Vietnamese friend . I you were travelling alone I'd advise you to skip Vietnam part altogether if only to sleep better. I have feeling all will work well. As for Bangkok part, 7 days is enough to visit all bars , not just GoodBoys and Freshboys. Don't overdo planning and swim with the flow when comes to debaucheries. By the way 2026 Tet was on Feb 17 so you don't need to worry about that inconvenience PeterRS, jamiebee and Dannyxxx 2 1 Quote
hank75 Posted yesterday at 02:52 AM Posted yesterday at 02:52 AM 49 minutes ago, vinapu said: By the way 2026 Tet was on Feb 17 so you don't need to worry about that inconvenience You are right. I am ageing. Was typing while on a plane and skipped my morning coffee and somehow I managed to mix Songkran up with Tet. Applogies to OP. I still think an extended Thai holiday is more enjoyable than splitting off to HCM edit: just discovered it’s not possible to edit old posts, even to remove factual inaccuracies? I shall in the future desist from posting when I’m functioning on minimal sleep, no caffeine and bored in the airport Dannyxxx 1 Quote
PeterRS Posted yesterday at 03:21 AM Posted yesterday at 03:21 AM 1 hour ago, hank75 said: Travel insurance is a must. Totally agree, but the devil with travel insurance is often in the small print. If a flight is cancelled primarily due to fuel shortages, will that be covered since the reason for the shortage could be regarded as an act of war? Quote
vinapu Posted yesterday at 03:32 AM Posted yesterday at 03:32 AM 37 minutes ago, hank75 said: edit: just discovered it’s not possible to edit old posts, it is possible but only for about 1 hr from original posting. After that ' edit' feature disappears Patanawet and Dannyxxx 2 Quote
Members daydreamer Posted yesterday at 04:40 AM Members Posted yesterday at 04:40 AM @PeterRS is correct, a fuel shortage as a consequence of war is excluded from travel insurance coverage. I checked Google, and here is the AI response below. Since this is considered an act of war, travel insurance is useless if the Vietnam flight is cancelled. The article does say a "cancel for any reason" policy would pay, however the OP doesn't intend to cancel his trip, so this would be useless as well for the Vietnam flight. A "cancel for any reason" policy is used to cancel an entire trip, and often a trip must be cancelled at least 48 hours prior to departure for the insurance company to pay a claim. Dannyxxx 1 Quote
Members daydreamer Posted yesterday at 04:46 AM Members Posted yesterday at 04:46 AM 3 hours ago, hank75 said: I believe the panic over jet fuel in Vietnam has subsided and there is government commitment to keeping state airlines running. Have you seen something in the news that Vietnam has found a source of jet fuel to cover the anticipated shortage for April? Just wondering, I haven't read anything yet about that. Dannyxxx 1 Quote
jimmie50 Posted yesterday at 05:05 AM Posted yesterday at 05:05 AM Currently in Bangkok, and haven't heard or read anything specifically about jet fuel here other than concerns similar to other places in general. However, I do know from stopping on our way to Pattaya for gasoline that it is being rationed at almost all stations here. I think the current limit is THB 600 or approximately 18 Liters per person/vehicle. daydreamer and Dannyxxx 2 Quote
Dannyxxx Posted yesterday at 05:17 AM Author Posted yesterday at 05:17 AM I appreciate the comments. I’m now planning to stay in Thailand and make it Bangkok for 6 nights, Koh Samet and Pattaya for a few days and then fly to Seoul a few days earlier than previously planned. This will let us enjoy more of Thailand and even get to see Seoul for a few days. I’ll also still have that nice hotel booked for three nights in Saigon so theres a chance i could divert there at the last minute if the conditions make it plausible to go there without getting stranded. daydreamer 1 Quote
jimmie50 Posted yesterday at 07:22 AM Posted yesterday at 07:22 AM As @vinapu would say, we can thank the Orange Overlord for this mess. 😭 Enchanted_Elixir and PeterRS 2 Quote
vinapu Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 12 hours ago, jimmie50 said: As @vinapu would say, we can thank the Orange Overlord for this mess. 😭 and it's far from over Quote
jamiebee Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Even philippine carrier Cebu Pacific just announced earlier yesterday they are reducing and cancelling some flights to and from Bangkok, Hanoi, Melbourne, Sydney, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur routes citing crisis on global fuel prices. I'm a bit worried my MNL-BKK flight may get cancelled too. Well, even my DXB-MNL flight from here in Dubai where daily missiles and drone attacks are happening is not confirmed to fly. 😅😅😅 vinapu 1 Quote
Keithambrose Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, vinapu said: and it's far from over Yes, he's just been lying about peace talks. I think it's to get the stock market to go up and down, so his chums can make some more millions. vinapu, floridarob and mauRICE 3 Quote
vinapu Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, Keithambrose said: Yes, he's just been lying about peace talks. I think it's to get the stock market to go up and down, so his chums can make some more millions. honestly , this morning reading news I thought exactly the same Quote
Keithambrose Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 4 minutes ago, vinapu said: honestly , this morning reading news I thought exactly the same It's being suggested in the media, as well. Quote
Members daydreamer Posted 7 hours ago Members Posted 7 hours ago From what I have read, there have been peace talks between the Iranian Foreign Minister, Badr Abdelatty, and the US special envoy, Steve Witkoff in the past 36 hours. The denial of any talks is coming from Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, and possibly other top officials loyal to the Supreme Leader. Ghalibaf is the speaker of the Iranian parliament, and a staunch supporter of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. Ghalibaf is a mouthpiece for the IRGC. President Trump was on the US evening news just an hour ago saying they have been talking, and this agreement included in the talks would involve a change of the current Iranian government. So yes, both sides are correct. Talks are happening, just not with the Islamic regime's hardliners that remain alive. Tehran is officially denying any talks, because the few remaining top officials that are loyal to the Supreme Leader cannot perceive an Iranian government that does not include them. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/surprise-us-talks-with-irans-fractured-leadership-offer-uncertain-path-out-of-conflict https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/23/politics/trump-shift-iran-talks Quote
floridarob Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, daydreamer said: this agreement included in the talks would involve a change of the current Iranian government. They should make a deal, both governments change their leaders... Dannyxxx, vinapu and jamiebee 2 1 Quote
vinapu Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, floridarob said: They should make a deal, both governments change their leaders... +1 Quote
Blah Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, daydreamer said: From what I have read, there have been peace talks between the Iranian Foreign Minister, Badr Abdelatty, and the US special envoy, Steve Witkoff in the past 36 hours. The denial of any talks is coming from Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, and possibly other top officials loyal to the Supreme Leader. Ghalibaf is the speaker of the Iranian parliament, and a staunch supporter of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps. Ghalibaf is a mouthpiece for the IRGC. President Trump was on the US evening news just an hour ago saying they have been talking, and this agreement included in the talks would involve a change of the current Iranian government. So yes, both sides are correct. Talks are happening, just not with the Islamic regime's hardliners that remain alive. Tehran is officially denying any talks, because the few remaining top officials that are loyal to the Supreme Leader cannot perceive an Iranian government that does not include them. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/23/surprise-us-talks-with-irans-fractured-leadership-offer-uncertain-path-out-of-conflict https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/23/politics/trump-shift-iran-talks It is totally irrelevant what you read today - it's gonna change 7 ways to Friday and then back again, over the next 10 weeks, followed by several flip-flops! Quote