Alizizou

Day 8
 
No need to look for breakfast place  as I had this included in the rate and it was served right in the lobby, regular stuff, eggs, toast , jam  tea or coffee, sufficient as far as I see but shame on them  - served on really dirty , long time ago white, tablecloth . How much it would take to wash it , dry and change , specially in the hotel  of this size ?
 
I wanted to check-in for my flight tomorrow and print boarding pass but my usual internet  place in Silom  was closed , it seems for good so I walked to MRT , took train to Lumpini, then motorsai for 20 baht to Malaysia hotel where in the lobby they have few computers  connected to  a printer. What was supposed to be few minutes , turned 2 hour session as pretty heavy storm with lots of rain arrived , locking me inside.  So I could , among others , catch up with this forum’s posts.
 
Then I felt hungry so went to their coffee shop for a lunch of , no prize for guessing , chicken with cashew nuts . All that rain cooled air considerably so I decided to walk to Babylon , if only to see where it is and how it looks from outside. Hard to believe and you have it here in writing- I never been there. Soi Nantha , around the corner  was half immersed  under  water but with plastic Birkenstocks this was no problem.
 
My curiosity satiated , I walked back. They must be doing good business as several motorsai drivers were waiting on street in front of Babylon  but as I said , air was nice and through Satrorn, Sala Daeng and Thaniya I walked all way to my hotel. Then , after some refreshment I went for a walk to Lumpini park where I was supposed to meet with my friend who helped me with my limited funds problem. No questions asked, this is what friends are for .
 
After circling park  twice we went each own way, him to Sukhumvit where he stays and me back to my room but walking toward Silom Guardian Angel just passed by to implant an idea to go and see if by any chance Art returned from Issan to his work in Nakarat massage. So I took    a bit circular way and last guy on the bench holding price card was not one other but familiar face and frame.
 
He recognized me even faster than I did him and it  took no words to climb stairs and order 1.5 hr massage for 650. After he mutilated me –strong  and fast strokes , still dressed in singlet and shorts I expressed an idea to see  a bit more of his flesh and he is muscular,  hunk guy of very athletic frame. Surely as always he asked me  ‘how much you give me? ‘ , ’same same before’ was the answer and a bit of fun started. And I mean it  literally.
 
And I blew it. Not long ago on this forum I dispensed an advice that if boy asks ‘where you stay’ that the time to offer visit in your room. But when he asked me “ where’s your hotel ? ” instead of following my own enlightened advice I , fixated on another Moonlight visit just answered  without further probing.
 
I did few stupid things this trip, forget my ATM card, booked two hotels for the same nights but that was by far most idiotic neglect. I had few fabulous encounters this short trip, Fiber, twice Nicky , Fluke , Oud, A, Kai but that 1 ½ hr at Nakarat was my best of them  all.  How I could be so stupid? I ‘m not sure he would even took my offer  but I will never know if I did not ask.
True to form, the same like in Jun,  when on street somebody passing by seeing my happy face said ‘ happy, happy”  and obviously happy I was.
 
Than to  Chula Besaj pharmacy on Rama 4 to buy some medicine which costs me there  less than half of home price and I calculated that  buying 2 year supply would save me enough for  air fare. They were actually closing and place was dark but when  I told them what I’m looking for,  business sense prevailed, for few hundreds they wouldn’t  re- open perhaps but for few thousand it was worth it .
 
Then to soi Twilight where 7 seconds after me anddy happened to arrive so we decided to seat at Hot Male 2 on soi level , ordered out drinks and immediately two Cambodian cuties joined us. Very clingy and kissy  but unfortunately I had other designs so all I could offer to one who joined me was drink and a tip. Particularly endearing was  his plead “ I go with you, I like old men”, LOL . Time to die I guess.
 
After while I paid my dues , tipped boy , good bye handshake  with anddy and moved to Maxi’s where paulsf  just  arrived.  Few recent news and another good bye and then crossed Suriwong to go to Moonlight for the last time. Show just started, few new numbers  with new , very shapely legged performer playing flying angel on the wheel.
 
No I did not watch show alone as Nicky spied me entering bar and joined me immediately. It did not take long before he asked me about going with me and only answer I could envision was ‘yes ‘  although I told him tip will not be as generous like week ago but he did not blink an eye.  All models  with exception of Tam were on the stage today and after their presentation  I could have last glimpse  of Fluke and #15 before dressed Nicky arrived and we were ready to go.
 
Outside Sunny was sitting with his lady , I could not resist to see his smile again by forcing 100 baht on him ‘ thank you for visiting Moonlight was his good bye to me.
 
No , we did not go to the room because Nicky suggested we go to another place , not as expensive so again motions from week ago were repeated, visiting gas station where I contributed to filling tank and then Thonglor and some quieter  place where several Thai yuppies were having good time . Well certified by one of them having hearty vomit when I went to WC   few minutes later. Complemented our waiter on his hairstyle , I like spiky hair and I swear he turned red a bit hearing that.
 
We had some drinks and light food and good conversation  greasing final 1500 or so bill. Again not necessary but very interesting as I don’t  frequent such places  so it was kind of refreshing novelty for me. After hour or so we returned to the hotel hand holding all the way.  Very  pleasant and  quite hot , no rush , no fuss session, fitting end of my Moonlight shined short Thai trip.  
 
Warm and long good bye embrace and in 5 minutes he was back – forget his car keys, nice to give me another chance to hug such a hunk. And this is how day 8 , my last finished.

Thanks to an unforeseen stroke of luck last week, a business trip created the opportunity for a short overnight transit in Bangkok. My friend offered his place as a base so I didn’t have to deal with the hassle of getting a hotel between 6 pm - 4 am just to park hand luggage. Arrived, rested for a while, had a nice dinner with my friend and off to catch the first show at Moonlight. I have to admit, I was doubly curious to revisit after all the exchanges we’ve had here.
 
First impression is that the bar continues to improve. The show seems more full with new acts including a S&M whipping and f*cking number.
 
Quite a number of new boys, some have moved from other bars. At least 2 were poached from Jupiter and I thought I recognised 1-2 more from Dreamboys. Though as previously mentioned I haven’t spent as much time at DB, though they had the DB “look” to them. I wonder what Moonlight are paying or tempting these boys with to get them to move? As far as I am aware Jupiter and DB still have the lion’s share of customers including the Chinese business.
 
Regrettably it didn’t mean the attractiveness quotient was upped as a whole, I didn’t think all the new boys were as good looking as the original crop. But it certainly projects the impression of a successful bar to have lots of boys on stage particularly when some of the more choice specimens were called off stage early to sit with customers. Some are also performers, the “backing dancers” to Sunny so it makes the numbers very lively.
 
More to come.

We go around in circles here on the issue of Islam. We don't want to be bigoted, but we have to deal with the obvious fact that a small minority of Muslims commit awful terrorist acts complicated by a Fundamentalist (mis?)interpretation of their religion, which is stronger in their religion just now than in the Christian of Jewish or Buddhist religions, although very present in those groups too.
 
The way out of the circle that makes most sense to me comes from an interview in the 80s with Michael Harrington, a Democratic Socialist from the US. He stated that the Islam world is going through their Dark Ages now, similar in its rigidity and intolerance to the Dark Ages in the Christian World, ca 500AD-1400AD. During those Dark Ages it was the Muslim world that advanced education, science, mathematics, and an overall tolerance for other religions within the lands it ruled. When the Christians took over Spain in 1492 and expelled the Jews, it was the Muslim world that took them in.
 
So just as the Muslim empires upheld science, reason and tolerance during the Christian Dark Ages, we in the nonMuslim world should uphold these same values while they go through their Dark Age. And those values would, IMNSHO, include not stereotyping the religion of Islam as supporting hatred or terrorism.

Really? 1 arab muslim starts a fight and u go and asked people to called u islamaphobe and condemn the whole religion?

It was off fee for 'models' in moonlight...'floor boys' off fee is 500 only.

Day 7
 
Waking up alone – out of 6 nights so far  this is third time I suffer  such indignity . So it turned that I did not utilize my room at Zing at all other than storing my meager possessions but I kind of liked idea of flexibility two rooms at the same time in two different locations gave me. Specially the cost was not overwhelming and cheapest rooms  turned out quite comfortable.
 
For breakfast to one of restaurants on the Beach Road , nice breeze blowing into face but whatever  I could have for 100 at Foodland cost me 200 for view and breeze. 
 
Then few steps to internet café in soi post office where I got PM from williewillie that Art, may favorite guy from BBB not seen for few months suddenly appeared at BigBoys last night and if I had phone he would alert me about that. Last straw to break my back in Pattaya this trip but what one can do? Collect pieces together, grin and carry on.
 
Than off to Jomtien Complex, fast packing and at noon on the dot I left my room there, walked to bar near bus station to have a beer waiting for my 1 pm bus and at 2.50 pm  I was back in Swampy .
 
Train to city was very crowded, almost at capacity leaving airport so I guess quite a few flight must have arrived at the same  time. This time my destination was Suriwongse hotel, right opposite of Moonlight. I never stay there overnight but used their short time rooms on ground level on few occasions in the past.
 
Advantage is location in thick of the action , not only for Moonlight but soi Twilight being across the street and still location is in quiet and discreet corner. Very popular at one time , now shows it’s age sand room can use some renovation although washroom part was clearly recently renovated and shiny.
 
No safety deposit box in the room but there are boxes on reception which can be rented for 600 baht / month according to sign. There’s free computer  with internet in the lobby as well, breakfast was included and room was spacious enough and clean but lacking tea kettle which was feature all other hotels I stay this trip but I came prepared as I like my tea and always carry immense heater .
 
  At first I was not very impressed but after a while I realized I like it and not only because Moonlight is right there but also because location is convenient for other places yet quiet. Raya it is not but at 500 baht less it’s good value for money and chances are it was not my last time there. 
 
As always I did my walk around Patpong area  , bought few necessities and close to 7 p.m. marched to soi Twilight right to Bangkok Massage where in absence of my regular Namu who went home I asked if Kai is there. Very muscular but with still baby faced guy , known to me from the past entertained me for next 90 minutes with strong and fast paced massage and some other suitable activities , 700 for the house and twice as much  for him which made him very happy, ‘really, that’s  for me?”. I quoted  Oud , my favorite Jupiter boy  ‘you happy , I happy” .
 
Smiling I left the place to see paulsf and DivineMadman sitting across the soi in Maxi so I joined immediately.  Not before long  anddy  joined us. Latest  news exchanges, schnitzel dinner , some beer , very nice forum  reunion indeed !
 
But as evening was progressing I felt some itching as I had designs for the evening. Of course in close neighborhood , namely Moonlight once more. I liked that adventure with Nicky week ago and was hoping to get acquainted with other models ,  either Fluke or Sunny,   as Numazu says , money be damned.
 
Three gentlemen wished me luck, we made arrangements to meet tomorrow and I sprinted to see what night will bring. Entered bar exactly when show was starting , found a seat , was  immediately recognized by one of mamasans who helped me facilitate off with Nicky last time i.e. collected 50 or 100 baht tip then and was probably hoping for the same tonight. As soon as I settled who is rushing toward me, whole in smiles? Nicky himself.
 
Another drink ordered , hands held, heaven is near . What I did not expect was apology as he  noted that I probably did not like Japanese club we went to last Saturday but I told him truth, club , experience and food I  liked , it was bill which I found excessive but told him not to worry because , which was truth again, I liked him which earned me warm embrace and one needs to see and even more important to feel the guy to understand that it was very pleasant moment indeed.
 
When asked if he will go with me tonight I told him truth that probably not because I want to see somebody else he took it matter-of- factly without any fuss with only comment ‘ may be tomorrow?’ and did not even wait for an answer. Very polite and professional and very , very everything.
 
 As time for the models presentation was coming , he finished his drink , collected his 100 tip tucked in his undies and went to prepare himself for a show , his place immediately taken by mamas an standing nearby whom I asked to find if Fluke will be available and willing to go with me. Oiled with red note he left , not to be seen again for a good while but I was occupied with show and model presentation waiting patiently. Show at Moonlight is more revealing that Jupiter one and rigid manhoods  are to be seen here and there.
 
Apart from show on the stage I had one in front of me. Middle aged and quite handsome Chinese invited # 15 to seat with him and #15 is man of such good muscular look with manly face they only reason he is not part of model crew must be religious, LOL. It was clear they will go together as shortly he left to dress but not before I satiated myself with view of his broad shoulders and as I said , Chinese guy was good looking as well. 
 
Clearly my Guardian Angel rolled his sleeves today as finally mamasan arrived  smiling with good news  that Fluke will join me soon . After ¼ of eternity  i.e few minutes he was right there , wai-ing me politely , I shook his hand , invited him to seat, drink was ordered and nirvana started . Just sitting in close proximity to such a hunk was worth 29 hours of travel, feeling firmly enforced when he placed   his hand on my knee and I embraced him with my left arm and placed my right hand on his massive and steely forearm. 
 
Getting hot in here but is not my fault that he  is very close to what my standard of excellent manframe is. Muscular but not overbuilt, veiny, bit hair here and there, man man. Lots of smiles but not so much of conversation  due to his limited English  but with municipal elections in Burkina Faso settled  I could use some  time of quiet admiration specially that  my question ‘ are you going with me ? ‘ was understood and answered with unqualified  YES immediately .  “How much you want ? “ was met with shy smile and this is all I wanted to know. 
 
I couldn’t wait to leave but having good heart and using mamasan to translate I told him that if he has show I will wait for him because he is so handsome I don’t want take him from other patrons.  
 
 
It was good move as both seem to be pleased with what they heard and I was not BS at all although I was not entirely altruistic either. Imagine boost to my self –esteem to be seen sitting in company of such a specimen in a packed  bar, full if envious  eyes  . So he left me for a while but now I was in mood I could wait  for hours watching stage with go-gos , all very carefully selected and  of great masculine looks.  Fluke’s number was first in second show and soon after he came dressed so 1000 baht off fee paid along with bin content .
 
It was quite a bit , off fee plus 3 drinks but expense was last of my mind as dream finally came true and I liked feeling of anticipation what’s next.  I had my share of stars which turned out losing shine fast in the room. When we were leaving another mamas an came to Fluke telling him somebody is interested but he pointed at me, quite a contrast with goings  2 days ago at BBB. Trek to the hotel was extremely short  and  before I could whisper ’ thank you Guardian Angel” we were in the room.
 
Finally ! No problem showering together , no problem with anything. Great look, great built everywhere and great attitude. And good upbringing. We showered together but I finished first , he was still soaking but when I  left washroom he closed door, out of habit I guess.
 
The same repeated when we were done  and took shower again. Sure he likes girls better confirmed  when asked but ‘boys like nit noy” he smilingly acknowledged.  No  attitude, no time watching ,no rush  it look that those Moonlight models are keeping some standard because Nicky was the same and alizizou had identical impression 
 
Just by length of this story you can sense that  it was night to remember. Of course I tried to convert it to long time but he declined , from translation  on the phone I understood he has either job or something to do in the airport area at 9 in the morning so I resigned to my fate of sleeping in empty bed but warmed by  such magnificent hunk.
 
Substantially poorer but immensely happier I slept like  a baby finishing day 7 sweetened by both Kai and Fluke. Who would have think that 2 days ago I was swearing  never to return. Long live Thailand!
 
Even now, week later I’m smiling typing that.

Day 6
 
I slept not only soundly but unusually long. It was 9.40 when sound of drilling wake me up. There’s ongoing renovation in Ambience and can’t say it was unreasonable- construction noise at that time.
 
Breakfast at Foodland in Royal Garden Plaza and from there I took motorsai  for 120 baht to, Mini Siam near North Pattaya Bus  station recommended to me  by ChristianPFC  few days ago . I did not have any big hopes expecting tacky tourist trap but it turned quite enjoyable and easy  to navigate with dozen miniature replicas of famous buildings all around the world and  from Thailand.
 
Being blessed in the past with opportunity   to see most in real of what was shown  I must say , pretty accurate replicas with Abu Simbel  most impressive  but even  Ho Chi Minh  mausoleum from Hanoi made it’s way there as well as Easter Island heads / moais / planted in the grass almost like on the Rano Raraku volcano slopes.
 
Worth 300 admission  and 240 round trip  motorsai fare / driver offered to wait for me, I’m not surprised /. Word  of warning, there are places to buy refreshmnets and restaurant where one can dine , there’s  almost no shade  there.
 
Returned to Boyztown and spotted Ko who claimed he was waiting for me last night but when and where remains mystery so he suggested repeat for tonight and I happily agreed , again at midnight.
 
Then I went to Alt Heidelberg for my last Pattaya dinner this trip and again had an option to admire that handsome contractor I saw another day. What a specimen !
 
Then return to Zing where my suitcase is to prepare myself for night adventures. Upon return to Boyztown I spied Kao at Copa so we had again enjoyable massage session. After that some beer on the terrace waiting for BBB’s 9 pm singing, joined there williewillie and his friend who  just arrived and shortly after  Keow, one who shamelessly dumped me mid-bar last night passed by ,  smiled at me so I decided to dump any grudges and waved him over to join me for a drink .
 
How one can be upset with such a hunk ! I’m not sure who raised going with me option  but  it was fast tracked , we finished our drinks , shake hands with Williewillie and his friend and disappeared inside Ambience for  very  steamy session, unfortunately short time only as he was not interested in long time even if I raised an option.  But great time it was , fitting redemption of last night’s mishap.
 
At 11.20 pm I was in the soi again, no Ko in sight, went even to Copa to see if he is with client perhpas but no sign of him  but still hoping I decided to shorten wait by taking on Castro show. 160 baht drink, well positioned chair and almost full house. I saw it many times but it was quite enjoyable and funny, patrons distributed a lot of tips and drinks to performers  and one of waiters was really  cute, fact noticed not only by me as later one he went with some farang as I , still waiting for no-show Ko was watching.
 
No idea what happened but at 2 am after watching whole soi to go to sleep I gave up waiting and went to 7/11 to chill myself with ice cream. Few massage guys were still sitting at Scandic including my old acquaintance Yut who did not waste much time and start pimping me one of their boys, slim and quite good looking. Keen on some consolation I gave up to temptation, I liked guy  and I like when they try to help each other, paid 400 fee and took guy with me upstairs.
 
Not much massage and he declined to stay till morning but was clingy and pleasant  enough  to earn promised 1000 baht tip.
And so day 6 and my last night stay in Pattaya were over.

Wow u spent almost 10,000 bhat (or more?) in a single night...!!!!

Day 5
 
I already mentioned that I did few stupid things for this trip, forgetting ATM cards was main. Senility must be setting in or who knows what because shortly after I booked my flight I got e-mail from Expedia offering very good rates for Zing in Jomtien Complex so I booked two nights and forgot about whole thing. Rest of bookings were done shortly before trip and of course  I rolled over all 8 nights booking 2 night in each of 4 hotels- Baan Silom, Classrooms, Ambiance and Suriwongse.
 
Thanks to that for night 5 and 6 I found myself in possession of two rooms , at Ambiance and Zing. Sure  I could cancel Ambiance one as Zing was non –refundable  but for 21 or 22 $ per night I decided to keep both and see what happens but Zing was my new base camp because of proximity to Jomtien’s airport bus station.
 
So in the morning at 11 we are leaving our bed and I’m telling my guest that I’m moving to Jomtien in 1 hr. It turned out that we are going together as this is where he lives in one of side sois.
 
I travel lightly so packing did not take much of an effort and shortly we were  marching to baht bus. There was another guy smiling at me for reason unknown but shortly I learned that he is friend of my companion and remembers me from Dreamboys visit  two days ago as he works there as barker.
 
Also Cambodian,  so good English spoken,  we had some conversation and at destination I invited both guys for a breakfast in Norwegian restaurant outside of Complex. Ample servings and not even 500 baht for 3 of us, drinks included , good value. Then he went his way and my guy offered to carry my suitcase , whole 8 kg of her , rolling on the wheels, to my new room in Zing.
 
Of course couldn’t just dismiss him right there so we had a brief horizontal session without any sensations  but lots of body contact and of course additional note slipped into his briefs. It was actually very pleasant idea. It looks that we spent together more than 12 hrs , one of my longest offs ever. 
 
I found  Zing very good value with good sized room  , some toiletries, tea kettle, efficient A/C ,  working room safe and discreet entry directly from the street , bypassing reception. Apparently it’s no longer gay hotel but almost all guests I saw were men only anyways.
 
In the afternoon I went back to Pattaya, in Boyztown had some chat over drinks with Kao the masseur in Copa, had chance of shake hands with aussie_ who was just passing by. Then I went to Pattaya Night Market  to buy a shirt and shorts / 630 both / and then returned to Boyztown via DasBerliner restaurant in soi 11 or 12 where I had a dinner recalling my time there with biguyby few months ago as he was one who introduced me to a place.
 
In Boyztown  I claimed my another room , in Ambiance and nobody on reception even blinked an eye that I have no luggage at all , other than toothpaste and brush.
Again their cheapest room is very good value with all amenities including , God knows why , two working safes.
 
Only bit chilling was fact that owing to renovation there were was actually access to stairs on the 1st floor, just an elevator . But window opened so I thought , in case of need I just jump from the window.  If you recall I had long time promised for tonight by guy from Copa. But it was still early so right after BBB singing and clapping  I went to Nice Boys in order to keep my promise  to take # 30 home. 
 
Boys were already on the stage doing  their usual motions and my guy , seeing me was visibly relieved. I called him from the stage right away but decided to have some fun before fun starts  so called few boys , one by one to distribute several 20-40-50 baht tips in exchange for  a feel . One of boys actually suggested he will go with us  but dropped an idea when I told him that I only take two guys if one  f**ks another. 
 
Again it was fun being there. Then we took sontaew  to Zing for our short time fun. It was not that short  and plenty of fun although I had an impression  he was a bit less clingy than in the bar yesterday when he was perhaps trying to land an off.  But this is digression as he was a great companion. I did not try to convert to long time because I had that promise from Ko.
 
So we went back to Pattaya, him to his bar probably and me to Boyztown where Ko was nowhere to be seen even if we agreed at midnight’ s  meeting.
 
In meantime I got   full of disgust look from Dom who certainly considers me very  cheap and perhaps , after all stinky and after sending  that angry  eye toward me he disappeared inside of hotel. After ½ hr waiting for Ko in wain I decided to step inside of BoyzBoyzBoyz where midnight show was on.
 
Tipped friendly mamas an 100 baht to find me Keow, the hunk of Moonlight model quality. Known to me from previous arrangements although when he joined me in a minute it took some explanation to help  his   memory to recall me or at least he pretended to .  Definitely sitting next to such awesome  body with option to hug it tightly warrants a drink and as it turned out shortly , another one at 350 a piece.  Short time negotiated , agreed smilingly and then after a while he asked for permission to go out and smoke.
 
Upon return I was hit with news that he will not go with me tonight because he has another client. Been there , done that  in May 2015 at Tawan so  upsetting sense of déjà vu hit me immediately but really what , other than resigning to my fate could I do ?
 
I’m in Thailand to get a guys , not to get even.
 
But mightily upset I was , finished my beer and left  bar soon to cool down by taking stroll to Walking street and back . Returned to the soi well past 2 but still it was some activities included two masseurs on duty in the hotel.
 
One closer was quite attractive so I asked about completing the night together  but firm 4000 all inclusive quitation chilled me a bit and no yield was forthcoming  so we settled on massage at 1900, house charged included. Great body but not much of massage other than  caressing my back with one hand  as he was keen on getting to serious part ASAP .
 
It was 4 when he left and I went to bed cursing Thailand and her boys,  vowing  not to put my foot here again. Yes , honest to God I did that,   but seriously , after getting angry looks from one , previously handsomely paid guy, with another one no-show for a long time  appointment , third one dumping me mid-bar and massage boy with great body not even interested in massage what I was supposed to do? Sing?
 
So it was how day 5 finished but  still , after all that upset and cursing I slept soundly.

Day 4
 
After A left I went to internet café in soi post office and on approach I saw owner standing outside of shop gesturing toward me.
He told me  that inside is really smelly  farang but I braved myself in as place is big enough. There was some stench of unwashed clothes  and body  but I had something to do,  so as they say ,I held my nose.
 
Then some stroll along Beach Road and at one point I landed at Alt Heidelberg  for my schnitzel lunch  and beer  and I happened to come in very opportune moment as owner was discussing some  business with , I presume, contractor who was young guy of outstanding  handsomeness. That is the beauty of Thailand – you have eye candy everywhere. Yesterday Japanese tourist , today local. Feast for eyes and soul and all for free with bonus of smile I earned when they were passing by going outside.
 
Then I think jet lag  did not gave in so I went to hotel for 2-6 pm power nap. At 8 I was supposed to meet aussie_ at Salt and Pepper near Tukcom so I decided to use that as excuse to get massage at Royal House.
 
Guy I picked up was not available unfortunate as he had bandage on his wrist as result of motorbike accident of course. But there was smiling substitute right beside and off we went for pleasant session , 400 for the house and 1100 for the guy. We finished right on time so I could be at restaurant at 8 on the dot.
 
After we had our fill , no prize for guessing what I had, LOL then we went to Sunee with first stop at Double Shot which hired recently few new employees and good looking ones indeed. Then next stop at Winners , few patrons including one of our board members flanked  by  boy on each side, about 8 boys on the stage. Drink 80 baht , boy drink 130 so I invited one to sit with me for a while. On departure few boys got  a tip and we had short stroll to Nice Boys.
 
That is bar with fun inside indeed, several boys on the stage , mostly smiling while working on their appendages as from time to time patrons were calling  them over for  a fast feel  and a tip.  
 
Some were already sitting with customers earning their tips by allowing indecent touches and more. This is not  a bar for shy people, that’s for sure
 
 
Since number 30 had already sizable endowment  in full rigidity I decided to call him over  for a time I’m in the bar and it was pleasure getting hold on very shapely and sizable cock supplemented with  kiss from time to time.  I had other designs for tonight I told him I will take him home tomorrow . In meantime , to fit with  other patrons I called other guys for a quick feel  for a tip. Lots of smiles there and few very shapely guys including one with very firm butt, pure pleasure to touch .
 
Very pleasant evening and thank you to aussie_ for dragging me in . At one point he  left me there  but williewillie appeared  around the same time  so forum was well represented that nice night at Nice.
 
Tipped by hard companion very generously  but well deserved, repeated see you tomorrow and went to Copa  for massage.  Right in front on duty was Dom, one of handsomest masseurs  I ever   saw and dealt with – we had long time in June so I expressed desire to see him again but  he kept very firmly his quote of 3000 all inclusive for massage , I guess  firmness being  result of recent Chinese wave so I passed that opportunity if only because Ko , veteran of my many massage appeared  so I had an option earning me angry look and as I learned nasty comment from other guy.  He labeled me ‘stinky’   which I take as ‘stingy’ as I was rather  showered not long ago after massage and evening was not that hot .
 
Ko massage is of great energy so he mutilated me with gusto earning 1500 tip and I earned promise of long time for tomorrow night.
 
Since it was almost midnight I went to new bar, Big Boys for their midnight show. Lots of lipsync singing by ladyboys   and man show by the same guys who are performing in Dreamboys show. Refreshing change was mamasan, very tall and handsome, bit pushy but because of his looks he is forgiven.
 
First time since I don’t know when it was actually pleasure to have mamas an company. Not that he worked in vain, I liked few of their boys in line up, particularly # 11 and #4 and both of them were actually smiling at me so it was only matter of time and some deliberation   who will get tip 100 baht / # 11 / and who will go with me, # 4 was a winner. 100 baht tip for mamas an for his troubles and my pleasure, my drink 260, boy’s drink 360, truly Bangkok level, off fee 500 and expected tip 2000.
 
As yesterday, world saw me and a boy dining at metal tables and again it was a bit costly at 750 for both of us. But it was worth as my companion , the Cambodian proved very engaging and enjoyable so we converted into long time and it was great idea as it was 11 am next day when we finally decided to change positions from horizontal to vertical . This is how day 4  , breaking point of my short trip finished.

it all depends accepted by whom?
 
lots of our definitions used in the West are remnants of colonial era and are hardly universal.
 
Russians are Europeans , even those from Vladivostok which is further east than Korea , easternmost continental Asian country.
For Vermontians , Georgians  southerners but is a case for Floridians ?
 
West refers to Middle East but some Central European languages are using term Near East  but what kind of east Saudi Arabia is for Malaysians? Very western east I guess. 

Day 3
 
After  breakfast Oud went to his room and I took BTS to Saphan Taksin and  took tourist boat to Wat Arun as it was while since I was there and boat trips along Chao Phraya river is essential for me every time I’m in Bangkok.
 
While regular express boats are cheaper I like tourist ones as seat is guaranteed , they move in slower pace and even with  50 baht one way ticket  I found it very good deal .  120 baht  day ticket with unlimited stops is even better deal. Boat departs every 30 minutes beginning at 9.30 am.
 
I spent about 1 hr wandering  around and then returned to Baan Silom to pack and leave exactly at 12 noon and made my way to airport  as this time I decided to go to Pattaya by Jomtien bus. Had some meal waiting for my departure and in about 1 hr 40 minutes I was in Jomtien bus terminal, crossed street   to catch immediately  passing songtaew  and few minutes later I was back in Classrooms hotel right above ABomb bar.
 
Somehow their system remembered me because girl on reception said ‘welcome back ‘ and I doubt she remembered me from 2 days stay 3 months ago specially that entry to hotel  is very discreet, by card operated side door  so patrons and personnel are hardly scandalized by hotels’ guests shenanigans.
 
Very spacious room with balcony, full sized refrigerator, tea/ coffee making facilities, all makes it for very good deal. And on the wall picture with obvious gay theme.
 

 
After settling in walk across the Second Road to Cha Cha Cha , recently discussed in a separate thread here to try recommended chicken with cashew nuts, one doesn’t expect from me anything else, right?
Nice décor in rustic style , place is obviously new and I wish them luck . Only few other patrons, all of them Japansese dining at other table, handsome like hell. At one point one of them wen t to WC  and both my and waitresses eyes followed him , fact not lost on the boss behind the counter who smiled  knowingly.
 
 
Then some walk to check what is old and new and as evening settled I finally arrived to Boyztown main soi to see from the distance that Kao at Copa is on duty today so off we went for massage by that adorable hunk who recognized me immediately as well. Highlight of any trip and any day   for me in Pattaya, unfortunately he doesn’t work every day as he has daytime job . Well built but still cute and soft spoken is true  gem. 400 for the room 1200 tip.
 
Then some beer at Copa bar waiting for beginning  of BBB singing and clapping. After while Yut , well known fixture of the soi spotted me and came for  a chat , very chatty and funny personality with good sense of humor but getting on with years and good thing he found a day time job  now only moonlighting at Scandic. We will meet him again few times as he pays good attention to goings in the soi and seem to know how his acquaintances are doing and with whom.
 
At 9 pm, BoyzBoyzBoyz crew went out for their spectacle and I was quite a disappointed because I couldn’t see Art , my favorite from there and in fact nobody attractive. And this is from the bar I consider best in Thailand, I should say this in the past tense as now I passed crown to Moonlight after this trip. As I learned later , now all lost as lots of crew simply did not go out for one reason or another  and dozens of prime material still inside. Nevertheless what I saw was a bit disappointing.
 
Shortly after williewillie appeared walking into soi  so we started chatting over drinks and heaven opened with quite  a rain. Since we wanted to see Dreamboys show I run to my hotel for an umbrella and in that rain we went there . Show start at 10. 40, I liked it and it seems that performers are external and quite hunky. As I learned later after Dreamboys they seem to jump for another show to BigBoys down the soi.
 
Few tips distributed and walk across the soi to XBoys for their midnight show . I have boy there I offed long time year ago so he came immediately for a hug and 100 baht tuck and since he is performer  in few numbers including special ones this was not his last tip tonight.
 
For quite a time I’m watching  veteran there , A,  #10  but finally this trip I decided to give him a try , specially that he seemed to recall me as well. 4000 suggested for long time, this is not Bangkok so fast we went to reasonable level, 500 off fee and we marched to metal tables restaurant in the corner for a late dinner and a chat. He speaks reasonable English and is quite chatty. I must watch what those boys are ordering because bill came to 700 but I had a good time and he had a good meal so we made good foundation for hot and enjoyable night. I liked him a lot.
 
In the morning walk to Ambiance for a breakfast , again some lavish meal choice but I was happy to pay as a token of appreciation for his  no rush attitude.
 
So I finished day 3 very happy.

LOL...south asian is south indian + sri lanka...we not refer north indian as south asian..plus guys in north indian is hot like latin guy..if you see hindi movies than you will know what i mean..

Day 2
 
After  last night debaucheries  I was sleeping soundly till 10 am. I did even notice in the morning what just  happened –  very unique situation for me , nobody beside me in the bed and that bed is in Thailand !
 
Breakfast  at Foodland, then stroll through Lumpini Park, meeting my friend who provided solution to my potential budget troubles   since my ATM cards are left home as I mentioned before and return to the hotel where I was expecting  visit from ChristianPFC   to begin our customary bar tour. At 6 he arrived and we marched , despite rain to Madrid Tavern in Patpong  for pizza dinner and chat.
 
By time we finished so did rain. Since Christian already reported that tour in his blog, here’s the link,  trip report from Oct 7 starts after initial bar introduction :
 
https://christianpfc.blogspot.com/2018/10/surawong-gogo-bars-oct-2018.html
 
I can add few my own impressions first being that is hardly any bar in BKK where Christian is not welcomed warmly by some of his acquaintances from previous arrangements. Tokyo Boys which opened in Jun is now empty place which will have warm spot in my heart as I was first customer to off from there  on their opening day. Surprising  was bar few door away which turned out to have not only girls but also 2 male employees, unfortunately  none of us found them hot enough to stop there.
 
Our main stops were Fresh Boys, Hot Male and Screwboys  in each of them I asked some boy to sit with me for a drink and tip as trip is short and time can’t be wasted. 
 
One in Fresh Boys  recognized me from previous off in Dec 2016 and one in Screwboys was Yo whom I also offed  few years ago. Leaving Hot male I even managed to slip my hand  inside of undies of one of barkers , not that my hand was empty. I know him from the past and kind of like him, one with bandanna on his head.
 
It was past midnight when we left Screwboys toward soi 4 where at Jupiter I was expecting Oud will patiently wait for me  as agreed last night.  Bar was quite empty but he was there, no drinks, just off fee and off we went passing by on our way to Oud’s motorcycle  Christian still surveying the soi 4 goings.
 
There are adventures and there was familiar warm and muscular body to keep me company that night, small jubilee as it was my 10th off of him not counting last night’s short embraces.
 
In the morning usual  Foodland breakfast and day 2 and with it ¼ of this trip was over.  

Day 1 continued
 
With such a good start I briskly walked all the way to soi Twilight where I expected to see paulsf and anddy  and indeed they were sitting together keeping seat warm to tired traveler me.
 
If you read part 1 you may notice that I n mentioned only ice cream and it was really my only meal since breakfast aboard the plane about 10 hours ago so yes , I was hungry.
 
By the way , on more than one occasion massage boys told me not to eat anything at least 2 hrs before  massage so it must be some science in it.
 
We exchanged latest news while surveying the scene with all boys rushing to their bars. I noticed that my semi-regular Namu from Bangkok massage is absent and indeed his brother working there confirmed he went home.
 
Nice  to see  my forum friends   and all that surrounding eye-candy but as time progressed I felt that itching pushing me toward Moonlight bar, not only because it’s where I started in Jun  but also because firmly, hell or high water , I wanted to  try one of their models. Subject is discussed in depth and wide in Moonlight thread so it may be some repetition.
 
All of them  are super handsome but I had Sunny, Nicky and Fluke in mind whatever happens. Sunny because I like his face and his performing skills – great dancer and acrobat. Nicky , because he is one reader in his recent trip report described sharing drink with him like flying close to the sun.  Fluke because his super muscular built but avoiding being oversized.
 
No , I did not count on getting any smiles from them which is my usual requirement for an off but sometimes we need to bend our own rules. But first show which starts at 10.30, drink 350 second drink 200. Show quite progressive with cocks poking here and there, few funny numbers with boy collapsing on another , impaling his mouth on other guy rigid tool and then there’s models parade after which they go through an audience wai-ing  everybody and collecting tip here and there.
 
So when Nicky happened to be passing by where I was sitting I just forced 100 baht into his undies as it’s my way of tipping guys in bars and he stopped right here , shaking my hand and inviting himself  to sit just beside me. Drink / 350 /
ordered and delivered, some hand holding , some embraces, wherever my hand was it was smooth skin and steely muscles underneath. Amazing feeling.
 
Honestly I don’t recall  who initiated going away subject , me or him but it did not take long for that being on the table. 6000 asking price , not only very high but also above my self imposed limit of 5000. Contrary to popular belief  I have my standards and let guys  to have theirs but 5000 ( I can hear  screams  already ) was approved with 3 hrs time frame.
 
But wait, there’s more, off fee while regular 500 , for models is 1000. I’m not sure if offing those models is daily occurrence because mamasan collecting fee seemed very happy and thanked me more than once.  I wanted to see rest of show, Nicky went to dress and after show we went out where I was invited  for a ride. Literally. He has a car and  asked me to go with him to a club to have some meal and a drink.
 
Not my intention , not my scene and not that I was prepared for financially , as it turned out later , very unprepared financially, LOL. Sure I could firmly say no, let go to my room but ever curious what happens next I  agreed. Not that he had something in mind close by, we went all the way   to Thonglor  to a place called Ainu-Japanese  style club and restaurant with wallet parking and this being Saturday packed by young hi-so Bangkok yuppies.
 
On our way we stopped at gas station where I was asked to contribute 700 to filling tank fund , LOL, not that I expect anything else.
 
   I don’t frequent such places  so was quite happy to see how other half is having good time specially that nobody paid much of attention to us although I doubt anybody , even with most of patrons drunk already,  thought we are father and son couple . In short no fuss.
 
Nicky ordered some drinks and food and I just quietly thought  ‘ wait until bill arrives / I had 2000 left on me  /. But it was fun, he was not shy to hold my hand from time to time. They brought some Japanese specialties , don’t ask me what it was but taste was heavenly. So in short I had a good time because of triple  novelty for me – situation , venue and food.
 
Not even for minute I forget that all that fun must be paid somehow. When he called for a bill , it came to 3900 something ( scream ) I pointed to my poverty of having half of that but he did not lose his cool at all and somehow paid it , of course I told him I will repay as everybody knew it was actually me who invited us there.  
 
Then our car was brought from parking /100 tip /  and we went for  very nice trip to hotel,   holding hands with such  a hunk  all the way back to Silom.
 
In room perfect , no rush , slow move session. No I did not think about the cost , it was pure pleasure. No attitude , no time watching , not even mentioning “where is my money for a club” just professional and classy behavior . Sure one can say for that money  it should be  but we all know money buys only that much.
Certainly most expensive man session I ever had but something to remember and feel good about as well. And for me it was not even over .
 
When we parted our ways, all paid I went to soi Tawan to buy some ice cream , just to cool down.
 
Passing by Sun massage beside Tawan I noticed some cutie still on duty at that time,  but went to 7/11 first, returning had a second look at the guy and pat on my pocket revealed something there.  Since it was my 1000 baht pocket I told him straight that massage ok but  1000 is all I have and he agreed for reduced tip / massage there costs 300 for 1 hr I think/.
 
So we went upstairs, not much massage anyways as he went straight for an  indecent touches, I did the same but it was nice and energizing hour. I even scrapped another  200 in 20 and 50 ties to make him a bit happier at that time of night.
 
It was another client in cubicle beside and it was some commotion as he claimed he doesn’t have as much as he promised boy, sometimes I feel sorry for guys and that is reason why some massage places are collecting money up front .
 
No I did not go to bed, 3 am I wanted to see sleepy Silom so went all the way to quite deserted Thainya with few people still sitting here and there. It was almost at Suriwong where I felt pat on the back.
 
 Oud !!!
 
 Former Tawan boy , transplanted to Jupiter was drinking with two girls when he spotted me passing by.  With 9 off over the years almost all long times obviously he remembered me. Warm embraces and kisses   straight from movie set on such unexpected , late night reunion.
 
I went to join his friends , contributed 200 to whisky fund, had few rounds, nice girls and very good looking they were and was no need to pretend we are just friends as Oud loudly  was thinking whether he still should visit me tonight or not , even if we already settled on the next.  It turned out that he just gives me  a ride to hotel on his motorcycle as it was very late or rather early so we said good bye to his friends and went to hotel.
 
There , late or early he decided to drop by just to see the room . Then things went heated  course when we hugged , not much happened past just body contact   but body he has ! short time is short time so brown note changed hands although I don’t think he expected it but I have my standards.
 
So my first  day was long one , most expensive ever, packed with 4 meetings and considering  long overnight  flight leading to it I wondered why I’m still alive  sleep deprived for so many hours but somehow I survived that rollercoaster and pocket drainage

This trip , my 18th was a bit  experimental. Most my trips to Thailand were short ones but always  in connection with visiting other countries in neighborhood or  on my way somewhere further  away. Never  flew that far just  to be in Thailand for  1 week only and return home .  Due to few factors I decided to try such foray this October, chalking that month off as well as it was my first Thai visit in October.
 
It leaves me only 6 months to cover –Jan-Apr and Jun / Aug. Schedule co-operated to optimize my time as I could leave hometown  just past midnight  and return in the evening. And since trip is over I must say , surprisingly perhaps for me as I considered this idiocy, it worked , chances are I will repeat the feast in the future.
 
Not most efficient use of money, that’s sure but as long as airfares will be reasonable it’s not only doable but turned out  not being so tiring as I suspected ( jet lags are killing me more and more as I age but long flight seem to be shorter and shorter at the same time).
 
First time I took Taiwanese Eva air and have only good things to say. We landed in Taipei 4 am so with outbound flight at 9 it gave me plenty of time to explore airport which is very unimpressive from outside but interior in places looks more like exhibition hall than airport. It was kind of fun to see how crowds are getting denser and denser  but first 2 hours it felt I had terminal to myself.
 
Leaving was much less fun as we were stuck on taxiway for 90 minutes waiting in long line of planes ready to take off . I feel sorry for claustrophobic in that situation but I had been in worse – 4 hrs in Chicago several  years ago – very high wind stopped all traffic.
 
Arriving at noon was breeze and this is how my day 1 started. Short immigration lines, exchanging money in one of railway station booths – best rates  I saw that week everywhere, train to BTS Phaya Thai, then to Sala Daeng and short walk to soi 3 to Baan Silom .
 
I did few stupid things this trip and at one point I realized that I have on me only cash , no back up plastic which inconveniently was left on my desk at home. So I said ‘ vinapu,  now short class on fiscal discipline’
 
But I said it loudly enough for my Guardian Angel  to overhear my quiet resignation and as it turned out , help was there.  I just commented in one of threads that I don’t keep in touch with my boys but I do with friends in real life and one of them  happened to be in Bangkok on business .  I’m telling you , it’s hard to be atheist those days.
 
Not that I’d be starving but certainly my certain activities would be curtailed quite a bit specially that as we learn very soon I left  fiscal worries for following days intended to live my first  one to the full  .
Baan Silom  assigned me different room this time with less sizable washroom and safe and closet  actually in the room not washroom  like last time and again I can recommend it as  it’s quiet location only short walk from mayhem of Silom and rooms are of very good size and well maintained and appointed.
 
After decontamination / 29 hrs on the road door to door / I did walk around Silom if only to learn about my first disappointment – Art from Nakarat massage , shining start of my June visit went home  . Then walk to Senso found place , recently damaged by falling construction crane , bolted and abandoned meaning of that that I will not see M and that’s the guy I have more chemistry with than probably anybody else from my semi-regulars.
 
As I had Prince on the schedule for this trip I went straight there. To calm  my nerves I bought an ice cream which I finished sitting outside beside quite a hunky and tattooed guy who had his smoke. We finished at the same time , went inside and I just pretended to a while to ponder my choices, no too long as place was busy with at least  5 other clients and I ask mamasan to point to that guy. For 1.5 hr , 1000 baht session. He warned me he may be tired as I’m his 3rd customer toady / it was only 6 pm ! / but I told him same same here.
 
Quite possibly  guy was tired as he did not seem particularly  keen  but I told him up front that I know he is tired and not to worry ,  I like you, he smiled , I smiled and we went to one of outside rooms after paying my fee. Vietnamese, his name is Fibre, massage was very good  although , since we had 90 minutes we started somewhat  non-standard with several minutes of quiet and soothing embrace.
 
That improved things greatly , energized both of us / jet lag / and he mutilated me  with gusto, building good foundation for a night ahead. Minimum tip of 1500 increased by  500 , for a good start, well deserved. Poor boy , when we were about to leave he got call from mamasan that he may have somebody else for him, talking about harvest ! Anyways ,  fully recommended, not trying any shortcuts on service or time and it needs to be said loudly, my first memorable massage at Prince ever.
 
day 1  to be continued

I'd be waiting for your impression as in my opinion , other than location , Jupiter 2000 and Moonlight have nothing in common and completely different vibe. 
 
Chances are that I support your opinion about Jupiter 2000 fully, I liked bar and looks of their boys but never had any good luck with them, Fortunately can't say the same about Moonlight- 4 off and all worth  a trouble and definitely none of ofees was time watcher - serious affliction of former Jupiter boys I was dealing with.
 
 
so extrapolation of old Jupiter experience to Moonlight may be misplaced IMNSHO

Well dont you know that mr babe is real model?..i meant underwear model...LOL

Well dont you know that mr babe is real model?..i meant underwear model...LOL

he is not only gorgeous but best dancer and acrobat in Moonlight. No need to go to Nepal , he can be admired night after night in his bar.
 
If only I knew he was Nepalese , I'd greet him properly with 'namaste" to extract one more smile. Not sure about his offability as he was sitting with quite plump Chinese looking lady when not on the stage.

He's gorgeous!
 
Mmmm...I suddenly feel a trip to Nepal coming on!

who is supposed to forget ?
 
Hope you did not mean me? For whom I'm expensive ?
 
I offed Nicky on my first and last night on my recent trip last week.
 
Expensive , yes. Going with six pack customers, sure but there are exceptions. One of them is obviously named vinapu.
 
To off him first time I  made  a move  but  next  time I was in bar few days later , it was actually him who found me and made himself available for embrace. This repeated next night resulting in second , haste to say cheaper as well, off. He may be picky but somehow he found me worthwhile of his time. Same same here .LOL

Thank you so listen to this piece of advice - don't be dogmatic and don't employ  any preconceived notions just based of what we say here, go and check for yourself.
 
We have our own habits and expectations which necessarily you must share and / or care about.
Make  sure to check Jupiter if only for boy's looks, almost all first grade in the looks department. 

And this is what may make boys a bit too confident of themselves. 
I also don't like their practice of reserving seats for preferred customers, perhaps they should convert to private club with those practices.
 
For me Moonlight  so far is more enjoyable option. 

See..i told ya..how much mr fluke charge u vinapu?..not expensive as mr nicky right?..
 
Please give full reports later..LOL
 
No doubt TAWAN guys will miss their vinapu's after this..LOL