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If they are hot and reply to me they are a money boy 😅
You can just ask where they work, if they say student, restaurant or regular shop 50% chance MB, if they say bar or massage 100% chance. Then they will sometimes just tell you they are a money boy, or you can ask if they want money to come to your hotel.
It's not seen as a rude question in my experience as long as you don't make it weird.

Sure, hen I have 3 guys we just do laundry and then pray. 

Repeated last night if somebody really needs to know. One participant from first time dismissed, suitable replacement hired, all 3 still sleeping scandalous at 9 in the morning
 
 
 
 

Not app related as, guy was from massage, and the same of Casanova remark but have doubtfully funny story  from this morning I,m bit ashamed to tell but I will type with closed eyes and it should do the trick of covering my shame. 
For some reason and out of blue I passed wind ( see my red face), not particularly loud or fragrant but my guy obviously noticed and said : ,, it must be your another boyfriend calling you"

It seems that after being called KFC,  now  next round  of abuse was thrown at me by well known to me massage guy during our session. 
He saw me marching with 3 boys last night and suggested I should change my name to Casanova. Jealousy at work I guess
 
 
 

Lecture completed, both guy and his appendage straightened up this morning. 
 

I have 2 more stories, not that funny but interesting for me.
Yesterday I released my leash  and throughout the day took 3 massages I 3 different places by masseurs new for me. From all 3 received very doubtful complement - that I look like KFC guy. Doubtful claim on fame but if you don, t have what you like, like what you have said I to myself. 
Second is from today morning. Waiting for green light in front of king statue at Lumpini noticed good looking guy who impatiently just crossed street on red. Sent him second long look of condemnation and even followed him with glance as he was quite a something in looks depertmnent. 
Hour ot two later got message on Grindr from guy  the I looked at him in the morning. Asked if he is red crossing guy, yes he was. I must say, admire his gaydar as it was really just cursory glance from me. To make story short - it looks he will come tomorrow for the lecture of proper street crossing. 
 
 
 

Oh hell no. I want very much to have a longer holiday there, but no. Very, very no.

Keep smiling when you enter bar, make sure you don't have that stingy look and when you tip boys on the stage make sure you do it yourself  without Mamasans or waiter as an intermediary and you will be OK. 

we spent all money on boys and can't even afford a mirror 

Saturday
I slept all morning and even part of the afternoon. Went out for a walk, but couldn’t find a masseur I really liked. Dinner buffet in Le Méridien hotel, which is expensive but really nice for a farang like me who is very picky on food.
Many boys contacted me on Grindr. I noticed Rak, which I knew from previous visits, but does not work anymore as a gogoboy. He agreed to meet late in the evening. Nice to see him again.
Visited Moonlight to start the evening. Too many Chinese with mouthmasks around me, and boys not really my type, so I left after 20 minutes.
Went over to some bars on the first floor in front of Lucky Boys. Did not find the right boy, so went over to Lucky Boys again. Boy from yesterday evening recognized me, but I had decided to take different boy every evening during this short trip. During previous trips, I often had preferred one boy for several nights, but not this time. Number 1 in Lucky Boys tried to get a repeat off, but he as a dud when I offed him in his X-boys period, I ignored him. It took me a long time to make up my mind, as there are so many good looking boys. Mamasan came to sit next to me,  so I gave her a tip when I had selected my boy. Once again a boy from Cambodia, who performed well. He really liked my room and made a lot of selfies. Even 3 months later, he still uses one on Grindr and another one on his Facebook. So nice to keep some connection with the boys on Facebook.
 
Sunday
Did not feel so inspired, so I went over again to the “super market of boys” Lucky Boys. Once again I noticed a very hot boy from Cambodia. I must say the quality of the boys in this bar is far above average I have seen in other bars in Bangkok or Pattaya. The boy turned out to be a great bottom, so tip well deserved.
The evening is only starting, so I went to the soi with DJ Station, but didn’t like it over there. Came back to Screw Boys, noticed a younger Lao bottom and we went to my room. Not a top performer, but it was a great evening anyway.
 
Monday
Today is all dedicated to Viro, my all-time favorite boy from Battambang region. We met about 2 years ago when he was new at X-boys. Last year, we have spent a few days together in Poseidon hotel in Pattaya. We chat a few times a month on Facebook. He went back to school after returning to Cambodia, but came to BKK to meet me today and stay over until I leave for the airport tomorrow. He is the only boy I like so much he can stay all night. Otherwise I prefer to sleep alone. He really gives me a boyfriend experience. I am so happy to meet him again. I pay him for 2 days, as he has been travelling so far to meet me.
 

After my massage at Adam Massage, I wandered around a bit. I ended up at a store and came upon the stationery section. I saw staplers and a thought came to my mind. I picked up a stapler and went to pay for it.
Back in the hotel room, I found ten hundred baht notes and stapled them into a garland!
it was such a spur of the moment kind of act. At the back of mind, I have had fantasies about giving a thousand baht garland on a gogo boy after reading about such instances at Jupiter. I did not know what came over me but I just went to make my own garland. I think it’s a kind of bucket list thing - things to experience in lifetime.
night came and I headed back to Lucky Boys. This time, I deliberately sat right at the top seats behind the DJ control section. I must say it’s quite a distance and I had to squint to see the number tags on the boys. I ordered a Heineken. Some of the mamasans and waiters recognised me from the previous night. “You want to order bottle?” No bottle for me tonight sorry. Their next question - “your farang Friend no come tonight?” referring to forum member Anddy.
same as previous night, bar had customers but not full. From the seats at the top, I could see what was going on at the bar. Three of the armchairs were filled with big spenders who ordered bottle service. Boys invited to sit with them to drink and play games. I saw one table where they played dice and presumably the loser had to drink up. There were mamasans and waiters who sat in as well, entertaining the big spenders.
show started and surprise surprise, the numbers were all different! Yes there were mostly ladyboy acts but the songs were different. Ditto for the other performances. I appreciate the variety available and effort put in (some of the dancers wore elaborate costumes and it would have cost money to have so many different acts).
the moment finally arrived - the big cock show. I called mamasan L over then opened my bag and passed him the baht garland. He went down to the stage and put it on P, my Thai gogoboy. P was stunned but his smile and reaction was priceless. The other boys and audience clapped.
after the show ended, the gogo boys went on stage. I asked L to call over a Cambodian boy. No. 20. “Longtime ok?” I asked him. Yes and I paid up. An unpleasant incident happened next.
 
 
Cambodian boy, H speaks very good English. I suggested we eat first before the night. We ended up at Foodland Patpong. He orders the steak set. Waitress brings over salad and toasted bread loaf. H was puzzled and said he didn’t order those. “Comes with set” waitress tells him. Quite an amusing scene. H has never eaten salad before. I take a few bites then he tries them and before long, he finishes the whole bowl of salad. “Salad very good!” he says in his perfectly pronounced English. Thais would have said “Very goose!”
we get back to the hotel and agreed on the arrangement. Sex then sleep until 8am for second round. H keeps his word. Thoroughly worth the 3000 baht long time fee. Up till now, I cannot forget the image of his perfectly formed buttocks. No six pec abs like some of the other boys but overall a nice body and a cute smile!

Day 3 - after waking up, went for lunch and did some shopping. Walked from BTS back to hotel at about 3pm. Encountered massage boys sitting outside Soi 4. A guy in yellow t-shirt with a nice smile caught my attention. "Massage?" Yes, why not! He led me into soi 4 towards Adam Massage. Very nice interior. Calm soothing music. We went up the stairs to 4th storey. Clean room with standard massage bed. Hole at top of bed for head. Shower rooms outside. Massage guy was very skilled. Strong strokes and some light teasing touching. He was fully dressed throughout but he did ask midway, "You want body to body massage?" I declined as I was saving myself for the night. He was disappointed but continued massaging me professionally. Towards the end, he tried again. "Happy ending? 500 baht only." I said normally i would say yes but today no. After massage, i went to shower to wash away the oil. Went down to pay the lady at counter. 700 baht for one and half hour of massage. Massage guy was standing at door to welcome me out. I gave him 500 baht tip. He smiled happily. 3 other massage guys outside congratulated him. Yes, I am a sucker for smiles!

Yes, it is Siam Heritage. There is a notice on the table in the hotel room that stated that joiners must register at reception and pay 900 baht but so far, I was never stopped from taking guests back - not just this trip but another trip last year. Go ahead and book this hotel for your next trip, vinapu. It’s close to the action!

While it's important to be respectful to host country culture, it doesn't apply to what is happening in the industry,where rules are simple and universal. Whoever helped you may be tipped  if you so inclined and whoever did not lift a finger, no matter what rank and seniority is should be left with empty hands.
I rarely have problems with mamasans for simple reason, while I treat them politely I liberally use word 'no' when they offer help I don't need or  request tip they don't earned. Complain that tip is too small is met  with  'that' enough' from me.
I believe a lot of our problems with mamasans comes from us trying to be too polite and too respectful , much more than necessary. 
After all we are not buying all that stuff hawkers on Patpong market are trying to push on us.
Uninvited mamas an trying to make small talk will get a lot of polite nonsense from me as response, enough to get a hint I'm not interested in. "What boy   do  you  like ' , "I like girls, 'what country you are from ?' " Tuvalu, Burkina Faso, Suriname'  or some other country far from first pages.
So first advice , while acknowledging them try to mind our own , not their business.
Second is to have enough of change so no need to wait for staff to bring it, BTS change counters are very handy for that.
Third is not to pay any attention to supposed cultural norm that tipping in coins is offensive, if they don't like, and some don't, take coins back and leave them empty handed, been there , done that and it works next time.
As for boys circulating with erect cocks , it's nothing wrong with them expecting tip, we would do the same  in that situation, no ?
Again wave away and polite 'thank you' should work but if one touches that cock , pats boy on the bum or whatever should part with some money. I usually tip only one chosen from the pack, better use of 100 baht  than enlisting  help of mamas to bring boy over as chances are after the show boy will smile our way broadly.
Almost forgotten fourth advice it to place tip discretely  in the palm or pocket of person , preferably when nobody is around
20 baht tip for  bringing a drink is enough  , even if it's senior mamasan, grandson of Field Marshall or whoever.
As for OP question, I'd give 20 baht to waiter and pocket 230 as explained above why, tip another mamasan exactly way you did.
While I don't like extortionate types I strongly believe in monetary rewards to people who helped us and made our experience better 
 By the way I have a habit of settling my bills in bar right away, i.e. When drink is delivered I pay the tab and tip the waiter, this signalizes that I'm ok for a while and it's always read correctly.
 
 

I say good for the boy and good for the man.  The man got what he wanted and had to be happy with the situation or he would not have continued. The boy is a "working boy" and found someone who changed his life. Only the two of them know the arrangements they made and they were both happy with it for at least a while. 
I have bought my BF at least 15 motorbikes, a car and a house (I think but am not sure).  And, I am very happy with everything he has been given to make his life and the life of his family better.  My life has been greatly enhanced by him and I begrudge him nothing.