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Fragata has bounced back in the last few years. I noticed more guys working at both saunas, following the crowd night by night, so the types are not that different any more between the two places, with Fragata having somewhat more black guys and Lagoa having somewhat more porn-star/muscle boys. That said, I've never found Lagoa to be completely dead, even the slow nights, whereas a couple times, like on one Thursday, Fragata was so dead I had to head off to Lagoa.

Monday is the slowest night, and 8 pm is late for most nights, but it's still usually good for a boy or two. The week goes like this: Sunday - Fragata (starts mid-afternoon), Monday - slow either place, Tues. - Fragata, Wed. - Lagoa (used to be their biggest night, but I haven't been in a while), Thu. - Lagoa, Fri & Sat. - Lagoa, very busy. Peak time is 6-7 pm., but some hot guys are at Lagoa by 4 to lift weights. I'm enjoying your reports.

Curitiba has been called the Minneapolis of Brazil. Orderly, white, a little boring, but "midwestern nice." The city has been written up in the urban planning field. I remember an interesting environmental park and a compact, pleasant downtown. I took the train trip twice and was socked in by fog both times - zero views. The town at the end of the train trip is cute, but the famous barreada dish everyone recommends just seems like a salty mess to me. The sauna (I think it was 520) was mixed, with the non-professionals vastly outnumbering the pros. I was glad I checked ctba out, but the frisky business was disappointing, given the many stunning curitibanos in SP and Rio. All the best produce gets exported to the big cities up north!

what are the busy nights (ie. lots of guy selection)? are the discos and boydellos dead during the week?

Ah the blue line - Jabaquara to Lagoa and Tucuruvi to the bus station, then airport, then home with a smile. On the yellow line I usually connected at Luz but don't remember how crazy that is. It's great that there's now finally a station close to the heart of Jardims, Faria Lima on the yellow line. It wasn't open yet when I was there last. I read your Lagoa reviews. I'm glad for differences in opinion!

Wow. Rio has 3 happening central saunas com garotos (202, 117, Manhattan Rios), 1 still kicking central sauna (Meio Mundo), and 1 happening outskirt sauna (Bangu). Sao Paulo, which is almost twice as big, has only 2 saunas. What's happening? It can't be just the tourist trade that makes the difference with Rio. Are we missing other saunas in SP? Are there any on the SP outskirts, Alterosas being long gone. Are there any in Santos or Campinas and should those be included?

By GUL you mean Guarulhos? (Its int'l code is GRU). R79 from airport to Vila Mariana is damn good if it's same price in other direction. I think the airport express bus from Tiete or Paulista is ~50-60.

"One of the sexiest guys at Thermas in Barcelona was Colombian." Was this David? I met him at Thermas around this time in 2017 and he was what made me think, time to go back to colombia.

"- Video club : Cra. 43 #56-25. hookups but not for the faint-hearted - La casa inclinada: Cra. 44 #46-38. Hookups but not the faint hearted" Discuss! Could somebody please expound on this so I can know how faint my heart can stand to be. Is it so hot and crazy that I'll need cardiac care? Also anybody know about the cines scene? That was THE thing in the greater Caribbean a while back. Hot everyday straight boys welcoming release from adventurous travelers. The internet and iphone has killed that scene, but I hear a few porno cines still exist in colombia.

That's an interesting new development but maybe better for coming from the airport than getting to it while leaving maximum sauna time. Looks like you need to make at least 2 transfers from either Fragata (fradique coutinho station) or lagoa (sta cruz). Has anyone done the route and can say how long it takes to get to the airport?

what are the chances of finding muscle boys in medellin? I saw a few once on chaturbate but lately they ve been mostly twinkish.

Fragata was the more lively place on Sunday, but Lagoa was still pretty good. Sundays started about the same time as any other day, ~3:30-4, but maybe with more garotos showing up early. To extract maximum Brazil goodness time, I usually booked the latest red-eye flight home. For an economical airport transfer, I would go to Tiete bus station in the morning, leave my luggage at the deposit on the ground floor (around $5), then buy the airport express bus ticket for that night. From either Lagoa or Fragata, it's a 20-30 minute subway ride to Tiete. A taxi directly from the sauna to the airport would be more convenient, and more costly, but I'm not sure how much faster it would be since the taxi would have to wade through miles of central SP surface traffic.

I'm dreaming of a Medellin trip. A couple questions: Is Barbacoas sauna a rent sauna? I believe it's on what some here called the "ugly" street, so is the talent there better than what's on the street? What's a good time to go to the rent sauna(s) like Club Tobi? I'm thinking of staying in the nicer area in Poblado and popping into the downtown area but don't want to be there too late at night, if it's as sketchy as I've heard. Thanks much!