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What is "a local mb"?

I was wondering whether it has gotten even earlier than that.

"afternoon" - has prime time moved earlier? That would explain why it was so dead when I was there, about same time last year, usually after 6 pm.

1800 for the whole weekend? How long ago was this?

I've done only one overnight, about 10 years ago. The guy came 3 times and made sure I took note of the number. I believe I paid about 3 programmas' worth and vaguely recall someone else mentioning a 3X-5X rule of thumb, which does make sense given the likely amount of sex a typical client could stand. (I mean, really!) Sleeping with a warm, smooth, cute boy is niiiice. Even nicer is sex in the morning, which is when my libido is actually highest. Now an alternative would be to book a masseur to come at an early hour. I would only consider an overnight with someone I've already done a programma with and know we get along very well together.

I also doubt that these guys pay taxes, so yes, it's a cash-in-the-dark business. But the micro-merchant/micro-payment movement has really taken off in Brazil, which also used to be all cash. I'm thinking somebody would soon provide such services in Europe and the few European workers would start accepting such payments. I just hope my bank statements won't show things like "54.37USD to ThiagoXXLcum4u"

In Brazil, I've paid by Pix. Another guy would accept MercadoPago. These guys had "legit" massage services too, and some micro-services like that are expanding beyond cash.

Sounds like the establishment does not allow the guys to basically live there anymore. I have spent a couple overnights at Thermas, once when I had a crazy early flight. It was ... interesting. Some of the overnighters were very hot, but the experience sort of takes tawdriness to another level. I could fool around right in the showers. It was like that children's book about being trapped in a museum overnight, but tawdrier. The sculpture was alive and gropable.

Remember: Venezuela was punching way about its weight in global beauty pageants, which were virtually an industry in the country. Pageants for men were starting to happen to.

I also posted this to the Asia forum, but what's the story with big blond hunky E. European guys posting ads in Asia? I've been watching one big Ukrainian guy who has been stuck in Bangkok for a year. I know of another Czech who moved to S.E. Asia. And when I was last in Bangkok, I saw several very porn-looking Euro boys (one of whom I could swear was Carlo Festa, but he would have been too old) walking through the night market. The Lady-Boys made a hilarious show bowing and kowtowing before these nordic gods. I don't think these guys are on the usual global circuit. Some seem to have been based in Asia for an extended term. I suppose the cost of living is cheaper for these guys and the client base is presumably appreciative of their "exotic" attributes (turnabout for fair play). Is there a special door into this scene, other than the usual pimp sites?

I don't know which forum to post this to, but what's the story with big blond hunky E. European guys posting ads in Asia? I've been watching one big Ukrainian guy who has been stuck in Bangkok for a year. I know of another Czech who moved to S.E. Asia. And when I was last in Bangkok, I saw several very porn-looking Euro boys (one of whom I could swear was Carlo Festa, but he would have been too old) walking through the night market. The Lady-Boys made a hilarious show bowing and kowtowing before these nordic gods. I suppose the cost of living is cheaper for these guys and the client base is presumably appreciative of their "exotic" attributes (turnabout for fair play). Is there a special door into this scene, other than the usual pimp sites?

There are some tasty offerings on Rentmen.eu but you should make the connection before going to the country because I bet sites like that are blocked there. You can use a VPN or remote session though.

Not to hijack a thread, but where do you find the Serbs? Are there in-person places or just online?

Bruno, light-skinned black from Brasilia, sunny personality - 8 & thick Paulo, dark-skinned black Brazilian, older but amazing muscle bod - almost 8 & thick Many others in the 7-inch range and thick enough. It's almost hard to find less than 7.

1. Paragonya has the narrowest shopping window of any bordello I've known. Pretty much 1-4 pm on weekends. I don't know about the weekdays. 2. asked and answered. 3. & 4. Depends on your competency as a traveler. I don't know how you would get a useful answer without giving some context about yourself. I'm sure there are people can trek through a jungle in broken high heels in a country that doesn't use the Roman alphabet and do it without a tour guide. But I would think that any functional adult can make it from Zurich to Luzern and back without any major assistance.

That Bel Ami first generation was the first time that we Americans were introduced to healthy, hearty, drop-dead gorgeous guys who were absolutely sex-positive. At the risk of going off-topic, the first two Lukas' Story videos cannot be found anywhere, even on Bel Ami's website or on the pirate sites that seem to have everything. Even the repackaged reissue ("Lukas Stories") has disappeared. I'm a collector of gay videos and the Lukas' Story videos were landmarks in erotic entertainment. It must be some legal issue.

Somebody better report back.

I agree completely with this scorecard based on my recent trips. Saturday and Sunday are strangely low-key at the Rio clubs. In general, SP and Lagoa are looking better, with more clients and guys. The fashion models aren't back, but the hungsters and steroid guys are. A good sequence might be Thu, Fri, Sat, and Sun in SP, then Mon, Tue, Wed in Rio, continuing through the weekend if you care to.

I've been wondering who the nymphet was too. For those who think that we old fogeys just complain about how things aren't what they used to be, 117 and Lagoa would use to have over 20 guys like this.

This street fair sounds really interesting but I have never made it because it's only one weekend a month. https://eatrio.net/2014/03/second-sunday-eating-feira-das-yabas.html It's at Pr. Paulo da Portela, which appears to be only a few blocks from the new sauna.

This one is right around the corner from you: https://goo.gl/maps/qaRJWjcCsJ9vVhM79 I checked it out online but ended up using one of the massage houses elsewhere. The Republica area is verrrry dicey but it changes block by block.

Thanks for the thorough report. I could see revisiting Brasilia, where I found the 1-2 gems and that was all I needed, and swinging through Goiana and the colonial towns (which I'm a sucker for) and maybe on to Manaus.

Still, I'd have to bring $2000-$5000 cash if I'm going for a couple weeks or if with someone else. Just taking that much money through airports (still below declaration amount at least), on planes, in taxis to my hotel or apartment. And then if I'm moving around to other cities. Criminals must know there are a lot of people carrying or holding USD cash. That's what's most worrisome for me, but paying double the price for everything to pay by credit card is not appealing either.

Are you there now? Can you give current reports?

I sneaked away to SP in March. Was meaning to check in with a report but had no time. I would agree that Lagoa was the best I'd seen it post-Covid. Still not as good as the old location - and one of the reception staffers who recognized me also agreed - but the selection was quite a lot beefier.