Riobard

I have seen a fraction of the customer base in Brasil doing what I call cheating. I have observed customers, usually tourists, taking a lot of fluff-room liberties but never actually booking a suite programa. To my way of thinking, getting hundreds of dollars of what would be equivalent to hot lap-dances in a stripper club without doling out a red cent to working guys.

A mere 3-5 fakes is equivalent to airfare to Spain or Brazil, worth it to assess the goods up front.

Phallic tree, symmetry of deer and space between them rectal canal, Rip patting his thigh ... "come sit here". Dirty old man!

Anyone over 30 is a 'daddy' type, yet half my age. Lucky for me, I am partial to the daddy fantasy and one of my regulars in Brazil is a 30-something built power-top. Quite serious and without much humor, but accommodates the fantasy ... oh, yeah, school me!

I do not use tourist-zones gyms (academias) but the ones I frequent further north charge 20-25 reais for day use. They let you have a walkthru if desired. They are often upscale even there so I suspect you would pay similarly in Ipanema.

I think that unmet expectations or skirmishes over payment are part of the price of admission, and these factors vary at an individual level. It is not a haircut. My needs as well as ease of arousal and climax at the end of the hook-up, and my approach to the pay envelope, have left me in the fortunate position of skirting dramatic encounters ... so far. I tend not to outline an elaborate shopping list prior to the encounter; after all, the guys' goal is to get me in the suite, full stop. And for me, not many others I suspect, part of the thrill is the unknown and the small details as the sexcounter unfolds. ThIs is not a superior stance, just the way I tick, but I don't think I would bother with these paycations if I had to spend time and energy checking off a series of boxes, other than the potential date's looks floor me upfront. But I grasp the frustration somewhat. What I find I have to roll with sometimes is paying entrance and drinks and ending up bored because the menu is lacklustre, to me anyways (I am picky and fickle, value the ambiguity of newness in GP selection), and I would have been better off splurging on a higher-end dinner. But one trade-off is the chance of snagging Sr Right Rightnow. So the hundreds of reais spent simply looking are not a total throwaway with bitter ending.

What gave it away ... "disagreement over alignment of the finger"?

Pedro Melchiades, on the go-go circuit. Not very approachable compared to some of the other dancers. Was he a 'garoto de programa' years back?

At about my visit's tenth week recently my finicky sensitive tight bttm finally got progressively accustomed to more than a few minutes duration, and I even bust my nut a few times, which I think is key to wanting and embracing it more. Mind you, just managing to sit on Cleito's was a clear breakthrough.

My experiences are also closer to Walker and Sanddunes. But we have apples, oranges, and various varietals of each. I do not pick a guy based on kissing openness, though ... when a macho top does kiss it is a treat, though infrequent. I usually wear a condom for receptive oral because I do not find it less pleasurable and I find I am more likely to get blown and for longer duration after putting it on, a kind of nonverbal signal for elevating the action. (My stated position to them upfront is versatile bttm, open to topping). Putting the condom on sometimes prompts the macho top to question our agreement about who bangs who. I will then say I love to get blown but it is optional and a good way to pass the time ... I usually book 60-75 minutes. The expectation has been downgraded to getting their sensual pouty mouth working over my dick, not topping them. Sometimes it works. It is exciting to play this game a little as I can roll with the outcome. Sometimes when wearing a condom I can negotiate some hot action (erm, hot for me) sliding it between their muscled bubble-ass cheeks without penetration. My nipples are like 2 extra penises, extremely sensitive. The one consistent thing is that every single GP has been able to work me up into a frenzy by taking command of them. It is an easy task for them and I am very fortunate that way. Most who will not deep kiss will still work nips over with mouth and tongue. If he watches the screen to maintain erection for suck'n'fuck, no problem. If he views the shitty porn to maintain erection for optics I tell him to stop the focus on his dick until it needs to be functionally tumescent. Haha ... sounds like a lot of contingencies and adaptation but I have made it work for me. Describing our particular nuances can be a challenge.

On the Grumari topic, can you please describe your mode of transport, how you handled your belongings, phone etc, did you have a wingman ... ?

Sorry to hear some of the guys were obnoxious. I think their sexual "performative labour" is a complex topic. Personally, if they are extremely hot I do not mind detachment because there are usually some GPs to be found who balance it out with more (presumably acted) affection. And I have the good fortune of being able to be aroused by warm interaction OR an edgy swaggering abusive attitude if the guy has the right build and looks. It is usually easy to predict, so however the mood strikes me. In many dozens of programas in the same locations as you reported I have never been aggressively hustled for more cash. If a tip is requested, as I think has occurred very occasionally, I shrug it off and say 'maybe next time'. Or offer a beverage on the credit card tab. Or tell them, if is the case, they will likely get repeat business and to be patient. Another strategy is to play dumb and act confused until they reach the point of diminished return regarding their hustle. At what stage are you getting these demands ... down in the lockers? After the deal is sealed (before the suite) I tell the date I am going to my locker to get my condom/lube kit and to ensure and prepare the cash already agreed on, to be handed over later. It is also not a bad idea to shake on it. They tend to be prideful even if lacking integrity somewhat. Also be aware that if you give in to demands, the news may go viral so that others are poised to test your limits. The staff do not like to be involved, but I have witnessed in the past Jacquie at the desk (she has recently left after many years there) give one of the pushier hotties a stern look while asking the client (as programa key handed over for the tryst) if the fee has been settled.

No need. Why risk having to lie to CBP to cover a lie on the form, and having your body language scrutinized, Pinocchio? Are you not allowed $800USD exemption as long as 30 days have elapsed since previous re-entry (or you want full allowable exemption subsequent re-entry?). And if there is suspicion do you want them to check all your belongings for manufacturing details? Untag, unpackage, launder, whatever, that is your prerogative. But I suggest transparency.

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I thought I read here or elsewhere that Sauna Gran Via, walkable distance from Adan, was also a rentboy place. Their website has the two words "boys" and "massage" together, a few reviewers looking for tricks lament that it has mainly working guys, etc.

Double penetration at those sizes ... show-off!

One option is to go to SDU first ... it is very close ... and use a storage locker. The company "Malex" runs them at many airports. But email them first to check the info is current. contato@malex.com.br

The "react" function is not working ... anyway: heart. You both struck gold!

No, though I am familiar with your Raf even as recently as this month. Hot. My Raf is even taller and has somewhat more definition.

Yes. Yes.

I wish! I would like to see the working guys optionally rotate thru simple dance/strip sequences where, like in Montreal, they just have be able to walk sexy to music and fly around grasping the pole if they want, not necessarily dance in a group with the same copy-cat moves over and over as typically occurs, a prelude to the same-ole same-ole drag quown shows. The briefer solo shows could include the nude genitals fluffing feature that the guys like to show and many customers like to see already. So there is more understated entertainment through the evening if you are waiting for your love match, etc, rather than a short blast of spectacle that sometimes occurs later than you would like to hang around.

Everywhere, since the military is now officially overseeing Rio policing!

I am not gunning for the new Rio club to fail. All of these venues have their positives and negatives. And of course prediction is, by nature, fraught with supposition. If Manhattan's inherits the apparent integrative inroads made by Aeroporto Novo Bar and Whiskeria, good on them. It is not unprecedented, true. I know families with kids in Escola Angelorum and the residential and business community in bohemian Gloria seems to go with the flow concerning 117, Alameda, and sex workers sharing the BBQ spaces at the corner. The area is teeming day and evening with a high-density heterogeneous array of people. What I mean by segregated is that 117 and 202, and other Gloria sex hotels, all saunas in Brazil I have visited in fact, are stand-alone structures even if their perimeters are rowhouse model. The venues are not essentially lobby lojas in residential complexes. If I were more psychologically invested in the new club I might lean more towards optimism, but my interest is pretty neutral and I have not been praying to Venus or Cupid for a new New Meio Mundo clone, or even a 117 clone. But if the new club has top-drawer, unsurpassed in quality garotos, fitness 'zine cover grade, even at double the current cost, that is where you will find me. And I have ideas about purposefully walking around at night in relatively deserted southside Centro, having been to evening performances at Teatro Municipal and SESI, as well as quieter sections of Lapa. But I am not looking for a vigorous debate about ride versus stride. Everyone needs to establish their own comfort level and safety requirements.

Is this new news? Mentioned in another thread? Location? I am finally going to spend more than just a couple of says in SP late summer.