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I do all my booking online. I read somewhere that the website records your request and if you come back, it increases the price. I used opodo for most bookings, because I like the +-1 day flexibility. However, I am flexible over up to two weeks, and finally I found a website that gives prices for a seven-day range: bravofly.com And then I found that a flight that costs 854E on opodo costs only 832E on govoyages.com plus a booking fee that depends on the time of the day you book and is up to 20E. However, this booking fee is 0E between 4am and 6am (time in France), so I set my alarm clock and got up at 4am to book the flight! Booking flights always takes time, check prices over weeks, optimize price and times of departure and return (I prefer to fly over night, from Paris to Bangkok and back as well), optimizing stop overs (because these flights are usually cheaper than direct flights). Now the booking for my next holiday is done, so I can sleep in peace!

I went there once, and I saw only massage boys. I thought it would be clear that when I go to a gay massage parlor and pick a boy I find cute, that I want special service. I got a good massage, but nothing more.

I know a boy from a host bar in Sunee who not long ago moved to Bangkok because he has 20000 Baht dept with someone in Sunee and can't pay it back (he borrowed the money for the funeral of a relative). So he simply fled Pattaya and stays with friends in Bangkok. I met him in Bangkok, we did some sightseeing and as he was broke, I gave him 1000 Baht. He didn't know how to use buses in Bangkok, so I showed him my Bangkok bus map and told him which bus will dirctly take him to the area where he stays. But he prefered to go by taxi! A week later, he called and wanted to meet me again (because he had just 20 Baht left). Sorry, but he doesn't take my advice, I won't help him again (at least not until my next holiday in Thailand).

I don't understand this. Why do you want to enjoy something you don't like? You wouldn't start smoking and try to enjoy it as a non-smoker or get a tattoo and try to like it. Same for me. When in Thailand, I sometimes drink up to one bottle of beer (because it costs the same as any other drink in bars), but then I need something different. I have been drunk once, and that's enough for my life. As I don't like the taste of most alcoholic drinks I tried, I figured out that it's better to drink a small amount of something with a high contents of alcohol than a lot of something with a low contents. I overdid it, ending in coordination problems and vomiting. However the effects of feeling happy as described by others failed to appear, I just had problems keeping my balance, but my mind was completely clear. I like grapes, but I don't like wine or raisins. Making wine or raisins is turning something good (grapes) into something bad.

There is also the "Moonhouse" (restaurant and guesthouse) if I remember correctly adjacend to "The Full". Last winter, on one occasion I noticed the following: "Moonhouse" was full and "The Full" was empty. LOL. And not to forget Lido Italian Restaurant and Pizzeria! I like Italian food and if after some days of Thai food only I want to eat Farang food, this is the place to go for me (if I'm in the area).

Definitely! When I go to gogo bars, I note down numbers of boys which are my type, but which I don't want to take now for various reasons, in order to come back later the same holiday or to know for my next holiday which bar has the highest number of cute boys. Unfortunately, by then many of then work somewhere else. Many other areas of life where I find it difficult to come to a decision, usually I'm overwhelmed by choice. For example buying toilet paper. There is an entire aile in the supermarked with dozens of different brands of toilet paper. The only way out is to buy the cheapest. Recently I bought a WLan card (10 EUR, about 420 THB) for my laptop on ebay, it took me weeks to come to a decision and I sped probably two hours spread over many days until I finally settled for a model because there is an overwhelming choice and I have no previous experience with WLan. Fortunately, I have no problems what to wear for the day or ight. I just grab into my cupboard and take what's on top. This seems to be a favorite problem for women: cupboards full of clothes and yet nothing to wear.

I had a look inside, even sat down and made a choice of massage and masseur. But then the manager told me that expected minimum tip for 1,5h massage (my choice) is 1500 THB and for 2h massage 2000 THB, in addition to 700 THB for 1,5h massage (don't remember which kind of massage I wanted) I quickly calculated that this will be fare more expensive than I had thought and excused myself. The major problem was rather that none of the masseurs was really my type, otherwise I would have stayed and paid. So I can't say anything about their rooms or quality of massage.

I do prefer Pattaya more and more. On each holiday, I stop in Bangkok (as this is where my holidays begin end end) for some days and go to Pattaya for some days. Pattaya has a higher density of available boys than Bangkok, the prices (hotel, drinks) are cheaper, there is less felt air pollution (I have no numbers and no health problems, but the sheer number of cars, people and cooking with open fire in Bangkok must create air pollution). Bangkok has a larger choice of day time activities, but there is enough to see around Pattaya as well. Samui (visited once) and Chiang Mai (visited once) dont't have enough choice of boys in bar (I'm very picky), but with a boyfriend it would be fine.

I read a while ago that there are more overweight people in developed countries than there are people who suffer from hunger in poor countries.

I prefer Chakran over Babylon. It's similar in size, but there are more Asians. On every visit, I saw at least one I liked, but this was rarely mutual. There is a massage palour (V-Club) in the same building, which has a large choice (I think there were more than 30 masseurs available, all in street clothes). It's not that far away from the Silom area. From BTS Aree about 10 minutes by foot to the sauna. If you go by taxi, I guess about 30 min from Silom area.

I always round up to the next ten Baht. I don't tip extra during slow traffic or heavy rain, there is a counter for time spend standing (or driving slower than 5 km/h if I remember correclty), so this is already included in the fare. I never accept "flat fares". So far, I had no problems with a driver not finding my destination. When alone, I often take a bus, when with a friend we almost always take a taxi. Tuk-tuk or motorcycle only in rare cases (as they cost as much as a taxi and I hate negotiating the fare).

Our tastes may differ, but I find the underwear boys wear in bars where they can wear what they want much more attractive than when the underwear is provided by the bar. I fully agree with gaybutton: let the boys wear the underwear they like!

I was there I think twice, and I agree with Michael: I don't get their business model: I saw cute boys in the massage parlor on street level, but only when they were entering or leaving. And there were no prices displayed last time I was there. Do they want me as a customer to inquire prices and ASK to see the boys? Furthermore, as I was lingering around unsure what to do, an older Thai man (the manager?) who obviously belonged to the business approached me and asked what I was waiting for and told me to go away. But despite these experiences, I think there are some talents, and what I read here is promising, so Super A is on top of my list of bars to visit when I'm back.

No need to do so, this thread is great, you can throw everything you have in your diary at us! Michael, you mentioned your bike trip before. Did you write somewhere about it in detail?

Which would make smoking un-affordable for the broad public. The impact of smoking-related diseases and accidents caused under the influence of alcohol are huge. In my opinion, there are two kinds of people who support smoking: those who are addicted and those who are involved in the tobacco industry. The addicted are not to blame, as they are addicted. The lobbyists are to blame. Unfortunately, the non-smokers have no lobby. If one could stop children/teenagers from starting to smoke, smoking would slowly die out (as I can't imagine that any sane adult who did not smoke before starts smoking)

Interesting thread! It's time for lesson 5?

I salute the these plans as a first step to a drug-free world. Not if they harm their and other's health and cause discomfort to others! I'm pretty sure those involved in the war on drugs are just not really interested in ending drug abuse and stricter enforcement and more severe sentences are necessary. But maybe I'm wrong, as even in countries with death sentence, drugs are availabe. I like to compare the fight against smoking with the eradication of smallpox or the abolition of slavery or the end of witch hunt. I takes one great worldwide effort and once it's over, it's over. The smallpox virus is eradicated and won't come back. No sane person would suggest to put someone else into slavery or that someone else is a witch. In a few hundred years, when smoking will be abolished (I hope so, unfortunately I think I won't live long enough to witness it), people will wonder why at our time people inhaled fumes of glowing dried plants, as we now look back to times where people were superstitious and wonder why they believed e.g. in witches.

I once was around the Grand Palace in the afternoon (4-5 pm), when I saw groups of young soldiers walking home (probably from ministry of defence which is close). But where to find available boys, in uniform - I don't know, but I'm interested!

I distinguis between chili-spicy and ginger-spicy. I don't like (chili) spicy food, so don't order food that is marked as "spicy" in the menu. Once I was eating with friends and they ordered spicy (ginger) chicken coconut soup (if I remember correctly), which I liked very much, but would never have ordered as it is "spicy", but ginger and not chili!

I don't set much value on the dancing in the bars. More important are what the boys look like. If he can dance that's better than just standing around, but not necessary. If you want to see dancing, go into a ballet!

Me too, I think the one on the left is by far the cutest. This is amazing, given the fact that there are continuous arguement of lady-lovers and manly-boy-lovers elsewhere on these forums. How comes we all agree on this one boy?

I like the idea of gold-backed currency. But I'm not an economist, so I don't know how this will influence world trade. I think the printing of money is the root of many evils (national debt and inflation).

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I think there are a few gogo bars that don't allow smoking. So it is not inevitable. If I remember correctly, Krazy Dragon is one of them, and there are a few in Bkk as well (I have to check before my next holiday, as a non-smoker I prefer to spend time in bars with no smoke and therefore these will be high on my list). So it is possible to run a bar and not allowing to smoke inside! (Contrary to what bar-owners say: they will lose customers) I think not providing ashtrays is a good hint to smokers, however I witnessed in one bar a guest lighting a cigarette first and then asking for an ashtray (I was wondering if he was going to let the ash fall down to the floor).

I used a laundry in Soi Sri Bum Pen (not far from the Malaysia hotel) and the prices were reasonable (I paid about 200 THB for "a bag full of worn clothes" - I can't specify any further, as I didn't weigh or count it, I just collected the clothes in a bag and handed it over). I think it was charged per piece, yes, there was a paper with numbers and a sum when I came to pick it up. I wonder how they manage to remember without receipt which clothes belong to whom. In a few rare cases, similar looking pieces where confused with those from other customers, now I have a pair of sock und a piece of underwear that look similar to mine, but belonged to someone else. The underwear is a Thai brand, so I hope it belonged to a cute Thai boy and I wear it. Price comparison to Europe: Where I now live I have to pay 4 EUR (~180 THB) for using the washing machine per load.