Members Buddy2 Posted July 24, 2020 Members Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, AdamSmith said: Is it art compared with the above and their like? We will soon be admiring Willy Wonka. 1 hour ago, AdamSmith said: Is it art compared with the above and their like? We will soon be admiring Willy Wonka. The Wizard of Oz and R & H musicals, Oklahoma, South Pacific, Carousel. Life lessons about bravery, spouse abuse and racial discrimination. Universal themes. Frankly, I am not surprised you would compare The Wizard of Oz with Willy Wonka. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted July 24, 2020 Author Share Posted July 24, 2020 56 minutes ago, Buddy2 said: The Wizard of Oz and R & H musicals, Oklahoma, South Pacific, Carousel. Life lessons about bravery, spouse abuse and racial discrimination. Universal themes. Frankly, I am not surprised you would compare The Wizard of Oz with Willy Wonka. Sad. I love The Wiz etc. But for Christ’s sake. To say stage/screen musicals are on the same level as Dostoevsky et al. as works of art... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buddy2 Posted July 24, 2020 Members Share Posted July 24, 2020 5 hours ago, AdamSmith said: I love The Wiz etc. But for Christ’s sake. To say stage/screen musicals are on the same level as Dostoevsky et al. as works of art... You keep contradicting yourself. I like and appreciate Dostoevsky as much as you. You compared "The Wizard of Oz" to "Willy Wonka." Now you love "The Wizard of Oz." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buddy2 Posted July 24, 2020 Members Share Posted July 24, 2020 R & H invented the American musical. That is, lyrics and music that add to the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 12:18 PM, Buddy2 said: R & H invented the American musical. That is, lyrics and music that add to the story. My beef is that American musicals take very fine story lines but them set them to the most schlock music. The direct inverse of what, say, Italian opera does. For which one can of course also complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buddy2 Posted July 26, 2020 Members Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, AdamSmith said: My beef is that American musicals take very fine story lines but them set them to the most schlock music. The direct inverse of what, say, Italian opera does. For which one can of course also complain. Interesting that one thinks Richard Rogers, Irving Berlin, Stephen Sondheim, Leonard Bernstein, Jule Styne composed second rate music. Perhaps Cole Porter George Gershwin were second rate too. Gershwin told Merman to never take a singing lesson. Edited July 26, 2020 by Buddy2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Buddy2 said: Interesting that one thinks Richard Rogers, Irving Berlin, Stephen Sondheim, Leonard Bernstein, Jule Styne composed second rate music. Perhaps Cole Porter George Gershwin were second rate too. Gershwin told Merman to never take a singing lesson. Well, if you think they hold up against Mozart, Verdi, Rossini, Puccini, Bellini, et al., then good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buddy2 Posted July 26, 2020 Members Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, AdamSmith said: Well, if you think they hold up against Mozart, Verdi, Rossini, Puccini, Bellini, et al., then good for you. Opera isn't new, around for centuries. The Broadway musical is relatively new.. Showboat and Oklahoma Broadway performer are far better actors/actresses And I enjoy opera too in New York, Chicago, Vienna, Munich, Paris, Prague and Sydney Edited July 26, 2020 by Buddy2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buddy2 Posted July 27, 2020 Members Share Posted July 27, 2020 Adam, your friend, Liam, has started Organ 2 on the other site, a companion to his other thread Organ 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Buddy2 said: Adam, your friend, Liam, has started Organ 2 on the other site, a companion to his other thread Organ 1. This epochal event which will overturn the known universe has me up in arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buddy2 Posted July 27, 2020 Members Share Posted July 27, 2020 5 hours ago, AdamSmith said: This epochal event which will overturn the known universe has me up in arms. Good, I shall keep you informed on Liam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted July 27, 2020 Members Share Posted July 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, Buddy2 said: Good, I shall keep you informed on Liam. Why? AdamSmith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Lucky said: Why? Because life is nothing without a little comic relief? Buddy2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buddy2 Posted July 29, 2020 Members Share Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/27/2020 at 11:02 AM, AdamSmith said: Because life is nothing without a little comic relief? You could have spoken up about Larstrup/Liam but did not to save threads about the organ (and other names for the organ thread). Now Liam is posting on the other site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Buddy2 said: You could have spoken up about Larstrup/Liam but did not to save threads about the organ (and other names for the organ thread). Now Liam is posting on the other site. This comment is not comprehensible to me. And what happens on the other site is of utter disinterest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buddy2 Posted July 30, 2020 Members Share Posted July 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, AdamSmith said: And what happens on the other site is of utter disinterest. But, you still have friends at the other site where you were well liked my many people, including me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Buddy2 said: But, you still have friends at the other site where you were well liked my many people, including me. Come over here then and let us continue interacting. The snake venom over there became too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buddy2 Posted July 30, 2020 Members Share Posted July 30, 2020 12 hours ago, AdamSmith said: Come over here then and let us continue interacting. The snake venom over there became too much. Not everyone wants to constantly read complaining about "snake venom over there." Try to move on to Oz, the read hero as a site owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 7 hours ago, Buddy2 said: Not everyone wants to constantly read complaining about "snake venom over there." Then don't. How simple is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buddy2 Posted July 31, 2020 Members Share Posted July 31, 2020 46 minutes ago, AdamSmith said: Then don't. How simple is that? Yet another question at the end of a comment. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Buddy2 said: Yet another question at the end of a comment. Why? Very good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Buddy2 Posted July 31, 2020 Members Share Posted July 31, 2020 11 hours ago, AdamSmith said: Very good! We have wasted too much time on Larstrup/Liam All you had to do was read the comments of @TotallyOz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Latbear4blk Posted August 2, 2020 Members Share Posted August 2, 2020 AdamSmith and Buddy2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Latbear4blk said: Go Tell It on the Mountain Mahalia https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq5aEwtvdRI Latbear4blk and Buddy2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 7:57 PM, AdamSmith said: Go Tell It on the Mountain Mahalia https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq5aEwtvdRI Amazing Grace https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJg5Op5W7yw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
