Moses

By your version it looks like: Russians were sitting in Moscow and after 14 years one of bosses said: "Oh, we forgot to punish Skripal! Let send agents to poison him!" It looks stupid, you know? All crimes have reason, motive. What new motive Russia got after 14 years, 8 of which Skripal already spend in UK, after he already told everything what he knew to British I.S.? I can imagine one only motive - all these 8 years Skripal was double agent and worked not only on MI6/MI5, but for GRU/FSB also. And in 2018 he told what he wants to quit and GRU made decision to punish him. Alternate path - MI5/MI6 found what Skripal was double agent and attempted to kill him at time when agents from GRU arrived to meet Skripal and get information from him. Then it is greatest fuckup of British I.S. and for to cover it UK govt made so many nose.

I already told you: they may have whatever reason - from tourism and to meeting with Russian agent in city. There is NO direct evidence what they were involved into Skripal case. And you avoiding answer my question: why should Russia wait for 14 years before to attempt to kill him in such complicated conditions when it had a lot of opportunities while Skripal was 6 years in Russian prison?

Dear, "direct evidence" are fingerprints of agents on door or door knob, photos/videos of agents adding poison on knob. Proof of their action. Photos of agents on streets isn't evidence at all. Because walking by city streets isn't crime.

So, you don't deny, what UK has no one, even single direct evidence? So, you haven't any answer why Russia made is on so complicated way: waited 14 years and then suddenly risks 2 agents and uses poison on foreign territory instead of creating "accident" on own territory. By the way: mother of Skripal died in 2021. Wanna as well accuse Russia, as you did in speculation about death of his wife on British land?

Looks like you have no answers to my questions. It was expected. Occam's razor, dear. And British "highly likely" bullshit without court verdict, without single direct evidence. Absence of direct evidence is real reason why after 7 years there is still no trial and verdict in this case. Pure speculations.

You gave no one answer to my question since first mention of Skripal in this thread: Why did Russia have to wait 14 years? It would have been much easier to eliminate Skripal on its own territory, in prison. Why was there no trial and no verdict? The absence of the accused on the territory of the country has never prevented the verdict from being passed, and the Litvinenko case is proof of this. Why was Skripal not properly guarded and Britain did not have a single piece of direct evidence?

So, for Litvinenko's case they can, and for Skripal's they can't? Why? I give you answer: they know - they have no proof. They have no one direct evidence. 2 agents of GRU walking by streets of Salisbury - all their evidence. We already know, what to be agent of secret service isn't crime. And to walk by streets of Salisbury isn't crime as well. That's bullshit: Skripal never been pardoned. He was just swapped. And now next question: Why UK doesn't have direct evidence? Why do they prove it with cameras from ATMs and stores? Skripal was under state protection, which means that his home should have been under constant surveillance by agents and cameras. How did it happen that no one recorded the fact of the crime itself - the application of poison to the door knob?

If here is proof of their guilty, why then there is no court decision? For me British version of case is just political speculation. Skripal was arrested in 2004, court decision issued in 2006. Only in 2010 he was exchanged. Russia had pretty much time to make his "hearth attack" in the prison - 6 years. After exchange he lived in UK 8 years. There was no reason for Russia to wait 8 years. My version: Skripal was "discharged" by MI5 or MI6 after he told all what he knew and became useless, while UK was in need "to pay" to Russia for extermination of Litvinenko by polonium right in the center of London, after which UK secret services lost face. British laboratory which works with Novichok is located just in 15 miles from Salisbury. It was good opportunity to discharge useless double agent and to make troubles to Russians, and MI5 or MI6 used it. Unfortunately for them Skripal survived. P.S. Sutyagin, who was swapped together with Skripal in 2010, still living in UK and even working for UK and NATO. P.P.S. In early October 2018, British journalist Mark Urban published a book, The Skripal File, which, based on several interviews with Skripal himself, indicated that Skripal supported Russia's annexation of Crimea and Putin's policy towards Ukraine, and did not believe that Russia had poisoned him. https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/mark-urban/the-skripal-files/9781529006926

In "live television in Russia" they told what they were in Salisbury as tourists. And UK has NO any proof of any other facts. I'm sure you know that. To be officer of secret service isn't criminal. Otherwise half of staff of UK embassy in Moscow should be arrested.

If you said so, or yellow tabloid, or politician - it means zero. If court said so, then it may be fact. Unless court said so - it is speculation. Political speculation to demonize Russia. There is no any proof, what visit of two "maybe GRU officers" and Sripal's case are linked. These "maybe officers" may had any mission from blowing up secret chemical laboratory in 15 miles from Salisbury to meeting with some Russian agents in the region. Their guilt isn't confirmed by any court. Just reminder: after poisoning of Livinenko by polonium, guilt of Lugovoy was confirmed by British court. After case with Skripal there is no court decision. Russia had no reason to kill Skripal in the UK – unlike Litvinenko, who fled to the UK, Skripal spent almost 6 years in Russian prisons before leaving Russia legally in a prisoner swap with the UK. It is too complicated for Russia to wait 6 years and then release him, and then wait another 8 years to hunt him in a foreign country, rather than simply causing an “accident” in a Russian prison. Occam’s razor says no.

By the way: British proof "highly likely" still not confirmed by decision of any court... Strange...

I note nobody here "did not attempt to defend": Coup in Kiev in 2013/14 Bombing of Luhansk by Kiev regime on June 2, 2014 Ban on Russian language as second official Closure of Russian schools Closure of Russian medias, TV and radio Violation of the Minsk-1 agreement by Ukraine Violation of the Minsk-2 agreement by Ukraine

When an opponent runs out of arguments, he starts discussing his opponent... nothing new.

Me? Defending? I'm simply showing that Russia does nothing that its current accusers haven't done. And that all the cries in Western propaganda demonizing Russia are just politics, because those who shout have repeatedly done what Russia is doing now and what all human civilization has been doing throughout its history. Do you know, how many countries didn't participate in a single military conflict since signing of UN Charter? 5 (five) as per ChatGPT: Iceland Costa Rica San Marino Vatican Liechtenstein War is not a crime, but an extreme political measure, common to all states on this planet. And fact that Russia has been trying to solve the problem peacefully for 8 years - through diplomacy and treaties - says a lot "pro" Russia. And good-natured ponies galloping across a rainbow are just fantasy.

Israel has about 100+ IJC court decisions about Israeli actions. Do you want to discuss it now? At past 50 years 1983 – Grenada → US invasion, overthrow of Marxist government. 1989 – Panama → US invasion, overthrow of Manuel Noriega. 1990 – Kuwait → Iraqi invasion, overthrow of Emir Jabir al-Sabah's government. 2001 – Afghanistan → US and allied invasion, overthrow of Taliban government. 2003 – Iraq → US and UK invasion, overthrow of Saddam Hussein's government. 2011 – Libya → NATO intervention supported rebellion, fall of Muammar Gaddafi's regime. maybe you want to discuss these cases and "UN Charter"?