Travellerdave

I've stayed there three times in the last eighteen months and never experienced the bug problem or cum stains. One thing you have to avoid in the tropics is opening the windows for more than a few minutes because the bugs get in, principally mosquitos. I did that during my last trip and both me and my overnight boy had bites. If you want to be in the centre of things it's a good choice. It's a bit of a maze upstairs and I got lost returning one night looking for my room.

I've stayed at the Ambiance a few times and been happy with the experience, although due to its location it's not for people who prefer early nights, with noise from the Soi. In Pattaya I have always stayed at hotels known to be gay in recent years. Before a couple of times I didn't. I did have boys in the room but I didn't like the stares from other guests in the lobby and comments in the lift when I returned with boys.

Firecat - that's an interesting amusing suggestion, but I think you would only get a very small towel for less than 200 baht, and as you well know the boys like large ones to maintain their modesty, at least until they get into bed.

Day Six Part 1 Numazu The Tony Gym on Third Road does have a pool but you have to across the Road to the other half of the complex. It's a fairly large one and good for excercise swimming. There is also a tennis court and another area with weights. This is included in the 250 baht entrance fee. I do a fair amount of excercise whilst in Pattaya. I start with a weights session in the part of Tony's where you went followed by swimming in the pool. Alternatively I use one of the treadmills or sometimes I go the the fitness park on the hill to join the other joggers in the evening for an hour covering six laps of the circuit.

Great Reports- I'm looking forward to the next episode. You obviously put a lot of effort into its compilation and it's so well written. I wonder if your work involves writing - it is almost a professional production. I was in Pattaya for a three week stay in January as a gay sex tourist and regret not producing a report myself.

Try Colonial Bar and Appartments in Soi VC near Sunee.

Ct2005 Yes my "routine" for Lt if you can call it that would be topped by the boy before sleep after extended preliminaries kissing etc, and then me topping him to completion on wake up. I usually have a good erection then, whereas before I often don't. Don't ask me why. I don't engage the boys on piece work so the 3000 would not apply!. The maximum I pay for Lt is 2000, but we are talking Pattaya prices. I've only had one boy from Tawan and that was a few years ago. For boys I have with me for more than one night I also pay the same per night, and buy them meals, drinks and maybe small gifts, so I think I treat them fairly.

It's impossible to put an accurate length of time on a short time off. I would not be happy about only 30 minutes as it takes longer for me to get full enjoyment. I need the preliminaries of kissing, sucking and maybe rimming before anal sex. Although there have been occasions when I been glad to see the boy go, such as when he was unable to get an erection. On the other hand there have been times when short time turns into long time, once when the boy wanted to sleep in my comfortable air conditioned bed. For long time it is definitely important to specify the leaving time for an overnight off before you take the boy from the bar or from GR. I always do this as I'm always horny on waking up and like to top boys then. At other times I'm generally bottom.

Planet Romeo is an important asset for me during my visits to Pattaya. In fact I never bother with the other options, but maybe I should. What is important for me is the quality of the photos and the information about the boy, such as age and sexual orientation. One improvement I would like is the response time for messages between me and the boy.

Bicincin Both the second and third floors are available for play and there are far more than three cubicles on the second. There is never any shortage of cubicles, only of attractive Thai guys to take inside. Sansuck should try and encourage more young Thai boys to visit. You wouldn't want to fuck in the steam room - that would be rather uncomfortable and not welcomed by your fellow occupants.

bicincin. I've been to the Sansuck quite a few times now over the years and even stayed there. "Getting your bearings" On arrival at the reception desk one pays the entrance fee and proceeds to the changing area. On entering the locker room, You receive keys with a numbered tag on an elastic strap which you can put on your wrist or maybe ankle. Any drinks or meal you purchase are charged to that number and you pay when you leave the place. The lockers are secured by both a built in lock and a padlock and contain two large towels plus a sachet of lube and a condom. A couple of spare condoms left in the locker would be a good idea as they are easy to drop or loose. I usually walk about in my speedos and leave my towel by the pool, but some evenings you will find guys naked or wearing g strings, but the majority wrap themselves in their towel. Most older farangs go into the cruising areas looking for contact with the younger attractive Thais, a lot of whom are looking for boyfriends. Group sex does happen in the cubicles and if you circulate with an erection it will get handled. Some guys like to wank their cocks in the corridors. There is a lot of milling about and circulation in the two cruising floors and very often you are unsuccessful finding a partner and return to the pool area maybe to try again later. Of course there is no compulsion to cruise - you could just go there for the sauna or steam room and the meals are OK. Kokopelli Yes agreed they are normally available a short distance from the Soi exit on the main road. Sansuck advertise a tuk tuk to take you there but I've only used it once so,I usually walk up the hill if I don't have a motor bike.

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Yes modesty(!) prevails. I've just finished 3 weeks in Pattaya. Slept with 5 separate boys all invariably naked in bed with me, but draped in the towel for undressing, showering and dressing. They prefer only a tiny amount of light in the room say from the bathroom door being ajar. A Str guy told it's the same with the girls

Just changing the discussion a little. I understand on good authority that IceaCream Ca was arrested yesterday at Dongtan by the cops. They even handcuffed him. Presumably he had not paid his dues.

before I discovered Thailand I used to spend holidays on the island of Gran Canaria. A section of the beach there was regarded as gay and nudism was the general rule there, although some like me liked to wear outrageous thongs. I still have the gold and silver ones but darent wear them at Dongtan. There was a certain amount of flirting and liaisons in the extensive dunes which the cops tried to police. Sadly my body has deteriorated over the 10 years since those days. Thailand has a deeply entrenched culture of modestly which you see when you off boys. They usually like to cover themselves with the towel until they are ready to get into bed with you and the lights go off. If you took a Thai boyfriend to Gran Canaria I am sure he would adjust quickly.

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Yes I agree with Firecat. Jomtien is to be preferred if bars and gogo's are not a priority. Getting to the beach at Jomtien can be slow, through the congested roads, by baht bus particularly if like me you stay in Sunee. I have hired a motor bike which makes for a quicker trip, but that option is only for minority.

Hi guys. I got to Dongtan at about 11 am and it was already busy. The temperature today has returned to normal after a few days of unusually cool conditions. In fact most of the Thais have been wearing jackets sweaters etc. There has been a cool wind from China taking the temperatures down to about 20c day and 15c night. I selected a lounger type chair in the third concession from the toilet block. The charge for these is I think 100 baht, but of course you get a nice towel included. I was on my own. I did think about inviting my boyfriend du jour, from last night, but he wasn't much of a companion so I rejected that idea. The wifi at that concession was rather slow but it did allow me to check emails. As usual most customers were middle aged farangs and a few had their young Thai boyfriends seated with them. I didn't see any unaccompanied Thai boys which is the usual situation these days. There were a number of older females seated in the front rows, which is to be deplored on our gay beach. They were probably Russians although they are much less in evidence this year. Icream Ka was in full voice and even did a little cabaret turn for our benefit in his rather fetching white briefs. Not so many beach vendors or massage men this year. I enjoyed my visit and did a little sun bathing in my speedos, although I am carefull not to burn, as the strong sunlight can penetrate even the concession canopy. I was in the water for a while swimming out and back to the swimming area barrier which is further than it looks. I had had enough at 4pm so returned to my motor bike for return to Pattaya. I did think about stopping at the Bamboo Bar or in the Complex but they are usually very quiet until the mass exodus from the beach at about 4.30 to 5.00 A few boys like these would have made my day

I visited the Sansuck alone on Friday evening and enjoyed my visit. It was busy round the pool and I was lucky to find a bed. I wore my speedos with the condom and Lube tucked inside, hoping to use them later. Most guys were laid or walking about draped in the towels which are provided, however two were naked and I noticed several wearing g strings. This encouraged me to return to the changing area and put mine on. After 15 minutes by the pool and feeling horny I tried the cruising areas upstairs. I was suprised to see a uniformed security guard walking about. This seems to be a recent development, maybe to stop voyeurs trying to view activities in the cubicles. It takes a little while for the eyes to adjust so it's better to stand still until you can see where you are going and who is there. The idea is to circulate so as to flirt and make contact. Of course the younger Thais are in demand but I did find one who responded to my groping hands and there was no whispered request for cash. Brief kissing and body contact preceded moving into a cubicle where my partner dragged the bed up to the door. The lube and condom were inside my g string which was discarded for a sucking session. His cock was slim and hard and I was ready to be topped which he did very nicely. I avoided groaning and moaning which seems to appeal to others. On conclusion I retreated to the shower but he seemed to disappear and I didn't see him again which was a pity. I would have liked to have chatted and even seen him away from the Sansuck. I left about 8.30 and assended the hill on foot as the shuttle tuk tuk seemed to be unavailable. Continuing walking I was almost at the flyover before I could stop a bahT Bus. If you intend to visit the Sansuck a rented motor bike would be a good investment if you feel confident to ride one.

Erected. I think you are perhaps exagerating to problem of false profiles on GR. Profiles there are rather like career resume's or cv's - you tend to make them look as favourable as possible. I'm am a user of GR when in LOS, as I will be shortly, and I am in the gay sex tourist category. I would say that 50% of the profiles are accurate, as regards age, appearance and cock size. 30% are not, but not to the extent of rejecting the boy. 20% are fraudulent and I have had to get rid of them in an appropriate manner. Comparing pickups from gogo's or bars and GR I would say the latter has the advantage of availability out of bar hours but is not necessarily a quicker contact method.

I once was driven by a boy I had offed from BT to where I was staying at the Samsuck Guesthouse which is about two miles. I had ridden the hired bike there but I had had a bit to drink so it was wise. However whilst Thais are practically born on motor bikes in retrospect I would not do it again. As I recall he was probably about 50 kilos whereas I am about 80.

Sad about the decline of Sunee. Sunny Boys Gogo closed ?. That's not good. I offed boys from there in the past. What are the three remaining gogo's ? Like Vessey I arrive in two weeks and would appreciate an update on where to find the hottest boys. Plenty on GR but what about gogo's.

Just been browsing as my next trip is looming up. Several boys have contacted me with such as "Hi" or "What you do" or "What you look for ". I usually reply politely saying that in am not in Pattaya today or something like that. I don't attempt to make a date for two weeks hence, as the boys are not interested. This nearly always brings the contact to a finish. When in Thailand I would check the boys profile and if he looks attractive I might ask for a few details like where he is situated. Then I get his phone because arranging the date is impossible via GR due to response delay, but then the language barrier arises. If I initiate the contact I never know what to say - it has to be more than "Hi", but I don't like revealing my hotel. I suppose stating long time or short or "Top/bottom " would be appropriate. It's a bit of an untidy process which can lead to disappointment on either side. Any suggestions ?.

In one of the British newspapers recently there was a quiz where one question was to pair up countries with a list of tourist visitors they received. I haven't saved it but I recall that Thailand was in third place behind USA (120 million) and France (85 million). Thailand was ahead of UK and Australia.

I always gravitate to Pattaya with token visits to Bkk or perhaps Chaing Mai or several other resorts. Part of the attraction is the beach. I know it's in the lower division of Thai beaches but it's good for me. I spend afternoons there at the Dongtan gay part, sometimes alone but sometimes with my boyfriend du jour. I think it goes back to my liking for beach holidays in gay resorts in Europe such as Playa del Ingles, where you could sun bathe naked and have liaisons in the sand dunes, when the cops weren't about. I'm in Pats in three weeks when I will no doubt make the acquaintance of the twinks not favoured by Vinapu. I've booked the first few days accommodation in a Sunee Guesthouse.