Travellerdave

Reading this thread I started reflecting on the few instances of contact with the Thai medical system. I've made about 25 trips to Pattaya over the last 10 years, but really I have been more healthy there than I am here in the UK. I go to the Pattaya Memorial Hospital for my HIV check and it's always a nervous few minutes waiting for the result, perhaps worrying about oral sex and the tiny chance of infection. Apart from this I once went to the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital when a dog I stepped on bit me. A course of five injections was prescribed for which I paid 11000 baht. I'm always a bit wary of Thai dogs now. Then I thought I had broken a rib when I fell coming out of the shower on the stone edge of the shower sink. Bloody painfull and I had to tell the boy to leave as I wasn't in any fit state to enjoy sex with him. The X-ray at BPH showed nothing broken but it was more than a week before the pain subsided. Beware of wet slippery tiled floors in Thai hotels !. Finally I was running from BT to Jomtien when I tripped up on a rough part of the footpath. A motor bike taxi man took me to a doctor who patched up my grazes and cuts and told me I had broken my little finger. But for about 75 weeks of time spent in Thailand this is quite a modest amount I think. For something serious I would rely on my UK medical and travel insurances to pay for treatment. Sorry to ramble on but I like to make a post every once in a while.

Same for me - I went twice. Rather a unfavourable location for a gay massage place. Round for a quality place in areas frequented by us gays, like BT, Sunee, Jomtien, Etc.

I've never had a negative reaction from Middle East guys in the Sunee Area, but I'm still wary of walking back from there with my young off to my hotel in Boystown. Within the Plaza itself I have no inhibitions with walking with my boyfriend sometimes holding hands or cuddling in one of the outside bars. Usually I prefer to hire two motor bikes for the short trip which I would never do alone. I dont have this fear at Jomtien walking with a boy from the gay beach to catch a baht bus back to Pattaya.

Hi Anthogay You do not mention when exactly you are visiting. The availability of rooms varies greatly according to the season. From December to March is high season when the weather is a little cooler and there is not much rain. There are far more visitors from Europe, North America and Russia so hotel prices are higher and availability of rooms is lower during this period, particularly around Christmas/New Year. Hence I would make a reservation if arriving December to March certainly for the first few days, as you would not want to be wandering about looking for a room after a long journey. There are other times when things are busier such as during the Chinese New Year, but during April to November you would not be risking not finding accommodation. However if you want to stay at a specific hotel it would be wise to reserve. I don't know about crazy night but in Pattaya the gay friendly hotels are concentrated in (a) Boystown - I stay at the Ambience (b) Sunee Plaza © jomtien. You can find a lot of references to hotels on this site and also in for example trip adviser. I am not an expert as regards Bangkok, but I stay at the Tantawan which is gay friendly but a little expensive. At a lower price is the Malaysia.

Thanks for this highly entertaining trip report. You obviously put a lot of time and effort into its production. We need more like it and I hope to produce one in January when I return to Pattaya, although there will not be pictures of girls or ladyboys in mine as I am 100% gay. We should however welcome reports from bisexual guys particularly when they censor their activities with bar girls. I was interested in the parts when you mentioned taking boys to the Queen Victoria in Soi 6, which is I think, not a gay hotel and is in a non-gay area. I once walked down this Soi which seemed to be frequented mainly by rough British guys likely to be gay unfriendly. I would feel very uncomfortable there with my boyfriends. Anyway thanks again.

When in Pattaya I visit the gay beach in the afternoons quite frequently. I like the relaxed atmosphere, the sea air and also chats to other older gays who like me sit in the same place day after day. Ok these days few boys in speedos are to be found but a few still go there. I take it that the "crackdown" refers to the one day a week when the concessions cannot operate with their chairs and umbrellas ?. I think this was a bad idea - I don't expose my body to the full force of the sun in Thailand, so don't go to the beach on those days. I don't believe the water at Dongtan is as bad as described as filthy. I go into the sea frequently for a swim and have yet to experience any ill effects from this, although I keep my mouth shut as much as possible. I would prefer that ladies were kept away from the relatively short gay section so maybe we could petition the authorities to erect notices and institute patrols to achieve this . Just joking !.

I've just been browsing hotels in Bkk and Pats in view of my January trip. I think my concern which I raised at the start of this thread is not really an issue, as I don't intend to stay at the Malaysia. In September I stayed at three hotels in Pats and one in Bkk, having boys overnight with me most nights and I never had a problem even though several were, or said they were, 18 or 19. Talking about Malaysia I am wondering about a short visit to that country and someone has told me about the very attractive island of Langkawi. Anyone had experience of the gay scene there ?. Maybe I could take a Thai boyfriend with me, but I suppose he would have to have a passport.

Your account of going into Sunny Boys intending to off one of the twins resonated with me. You leave the hotel to go to a bar / gogo to meet and off a boy you are attracted to or have maybe offed before, but on entering you find him sat with a customer. You are annoyed and the boy becomes more and more attractive in your eyes, but still the customer shows no sign of leaving and even starts playing with the boy's cock. None of the other boys get your attention and after several drinks you leave the bar flustrated. Later you return hoping the bastard has gone leaving the boy free, but you find they have gone together. Just one of the annoyances of being a sex tourist !.

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I should have mentioned shaved pubes - good for me. No facial hair also. Ideal combination for me is smooth hairless body, pierced nipples and belly, blonde or coloured head hair. No tattoos. Neutral on a mook. Rather rare to find this - I can only remember one Off from GR.

Nice report Biguyboy. Makes me look forward to my next trip in January. Talking about body enhancements I must say that I'm rather neutral about mooks. So long as the boy's other attributes were attractive mooks in his dick would not preclude an off. I'm rather negative about tattoos particularly those Buddhist patterns that the boys have. On the other hand I enjoy body piercings such as belly and nipples and coloured hair, especially blonde is a real turn on for me.

Yes Vessey we will look forward to your trip reports, but spare us the details of your activities with ladyboys and girls. I have met bisexual guys in Pattaya who first discovered gay sex via ladyboys, but in one case it took a long time for him to enter a gay bar and even longer for him to off a boy. Some ladyboys advertise on GR. They cover the full spectrum from boys with makeup and female clothes to having large breasts, long hair etc, and I suppose it would be to the latter that previously hetro guys would be attracted.

I've never spent any time at the complex after about 7 pm during numerous trips to Pattaya in the last ten years. I've always considered that there was more action in BT or Sunee so never stayed in Jomtien. After reading this report maybe I will give it a try. After an afternoon on the beach I have often had a massage and remember visiting the Question Mark for this a couple of years ago on successive days when I had the hots for a boy there. In the parts of the Complex closer to the beach there are several hetro bars where the girls try and entice you to sit down and very near the beach there is the Bamboo Bar sandwiched between the 7-11 and a pharmacy. Perhaps an unsuitable location for a gay bar. Last year I was inside there sitting with a boy with my arm round him when a Russian older str couple entered but quickly retreated when they realised that all the customers were similarly engaged.

Is there any reason for the absence of gogo's bars in the complex ?. Given the number of gays staying in the vicinity I would have thought someone would open one. Maybe it's not classed as an "entertainment zone"

During my recent 3 week trip I stayed in three hotels in Pattaya commencing at the Ambience, which I have sometimes criticised for the noise problem which I didn't have a problem at all with this time. I think it's got a lot to do with the room location. Of the boys I had overnight there two were under twenty, or at least said they were, and had no difficulty getting them past reception. At the Samsuck Guesthouse again there was no problem, although on one occasion there was no one at reception when I walked in with a boy from Dongtan Beach. I also stayed in the LK Royal Suite hotel just off Soi Buakhow for three nights, which is not known to be gay oriented. They had a very good low season deal and also have a large swimming pool and small gym. There was no problem with bringing back boys. At Bkk I stayed again at the Tantawan. All in all I was very happy with my hotel stays and never was confronted by the "under 20's" ban, even though I favour twinkly boys in the younger age range 18+.

Reflecting on my three week trip, it was enjoyable in a certain way. I behaved throughout as a typical gay sex tourist. I slept with I think with seven separate boys (or was it eight ? Can't remember) I obtained from GR , bars and the gay beach, and several more short time. I had Maybe five massages and visited Samsuck Sauna twice for liaisons in the dark maze. I never was drunk but consumed an average of four beers each day, which is not good, taking a toll on my health. I'm still in jet lag six days after returning. Deep down I think I am ashamed of this way of life, which we in the West can indulge in because of our relative affluence. I'm hoping to go back in the new year for a couple of months and feel that I don't want to repeat the above performance taking me closer to an early grave. I practice safe sex ( I'm more bottom ) but there are still risks and I'm playing Russian Roulette. And yet the attraction of Asian boys remains. A different type of trip I believe is called for. Probably I could find an attractive boyfriend to live with me for the duration and pay him a retainer. I did meet a gay in his late 50's who had done just that and I was very taken with his young boyfriend. I think I could travel a bit with him to get to know more of the country than I did this time which was a couple of miles radius of Boystown. But it would have to be an educated one that I could relate to and spend more time with than just romping in bed, not the typical Pattaya money boy.

Same from the Uk - 60 days with an extension available. I believe there are other visas multiple entry with which you can stay for a year without leaving Thailand. Also a retirement visa available if you can prove financial criteria, health and age.

Regarding Koh Larn I have been several times and in fact went in March via Bali Hi Pier where the fare was I think 30 baht. I had retained a boy for two nights and took him and his friend for the day. Some boats go to the village and some to a big beach, which is a bit crowded with Chinese tour groups. I head to Nual beach which is about 2 miles from the village (where there are a few restaurants and a 7-11) Rather than walk I hired a motor bike at 300 baht and rode there 3 up. At Nual the beach is not as good but its quieter and there is a colony of monkeys to amuse you. Chairs and umbrellas are available. We had a fish for lunch and drank a few beers. I got a few "looks" from other people due to me being with 2 boys and fooling about with them in the water, but that is something we have to live with, in the same way that hetro,s have when accompanied by girls many years younger. A few years ago you would probably felt like Robinson Carusoe but not now - huge numbers visit and the Russians used to be there in force.

It's quite difficult to get an impression of a closed bar from the outside as the door men are reluctant to let you have a good look. I want to see the boys available and the general atmosphere (don't like it empty). Thus I enter and buy a drink even if my impression is negative. I'm too polite just to walk out - I suppose I'm old style English. Towards the end of my trip I was reasonably familiar with most of the gogo's but early on I wasn't, despite visiting most during my March trip ( they change a lot in 5 months). Hence I bought a few soda's at gogo's where I wished I had not entered. I do also take note of reports on this forum, but as we all know things can change from evening to evening.

Talking about what boys wear in gogos, i have always thought that there should be more variety than the standard briefs or split side shorts, during my recent trip i saw none in thongs or jocks, which i find very sexy. I like boys to wear jocks whilst in my room and i have several for them to put on and which they like.

Back home now after journey involving: motor bike to bus station, bus to airport, plane 6 hours to Dubai, 7 hours to Manchester, friends car home. About 22 hours door to door. Flights on Emirates A380's. In economy about as good as you can get. Had centre 4 seats to myself dub to man almost as good as business class ! Good trip on reflection without any problems. Didn't like Pats being so quiet in general and in gay areas in particular. I don't Like being in a bar as the only customer ! I would say that Pats has declined as a resort for gay sex tourists, however its probably the best of its kind in the world. Although maybe I remember too favourably the scene 9 years ago when i made my first visit. Rent boy prices are a fraction of those in the west and i cant get enough of Asians.

Yes I wish I had visited Maya earlier during my trip, because Im on my way home now, not to return till probably January. I like the sound of Biguyby's tall fem boy but I would choose the Myanmar boy again. I wish I had asked him to spend the night with me - maybe he would maybe not. He said he was new to Pattaya so maybe he would not be ready to have sex in bed with a farang.

Had a massage yesterday. Walked to Tukcom on South Pattaya Road and turned down the side soi. Intending to go to Royal House I changed my mind and continued and saw a massage place on the right with the boys sat outside wearing cute pyjama suits of a silk type material.. In I went followed by a rather attractive well built boy. The fee was advertised as 400 baht but I don't remember mention of a minimum tip. Come to think I cant think of the name of the place either. I left my trainers at the door and noted that the place seemed very clean and tidy. The boy showed me upstairs using the normal steep staircase. I was shown into a cubicle with the bed on the floor rather than raised. After undressing and being given a towel I was directed to the shower a few doors down the corridor. I never like leaving my stuff unattended but my wallet was at the bottom of my back pack and did not hold much money - only the baht from 20 pounds so about 2100. Returning the boy commenced the massage still in his pyjama suit, which was ok but i knew i would ask him to go naked as things progressed. He told me he was from Myanmar and had only just commenced the job, having been trained in massage by his sister who was also in Pattaya working massage. He gave me a strong back massage with no sexual content and then asked me to turn over. At this point I asked him to strip off. He said he was shy but proceeded to do so revealing a smooth well toned body and a really large cock. The sexual part then commenced with me lying on my front with him on top probing my anus with his erection and playing with my nipples. 69 followed and after a while I had his cum in my mouth. He finished by chuck- wowing me to completion. I tipped him 700 and paid the house fee of 400 for a rather excellent visit. Giving this account really turns me on !.

Hi Firecat I went jogging on Beach Road at 7.00 am. Blowing a hell of a gale and the path was covered in debris. I steered clear of the trees as didnt want a coconut on my head !. Im going on GR after breakfast to see who is available. It definitely doesnt look like a beach day so an hour or so cuddled up in bed with a cutie is on the agenda.

Yes Vinapu we have always to remember that when it comes to relationships Thais will attach more importance to other Thais rather than to foreigners no matter how close they are to the latter. I recall reading a famous book written as an intoduction to the commercial sex industry called "Money Number One ". In one chapter it lists Thai's order of priorities in their relationship. If I recall Family came top, followed by such as: Other Thai People and Thai animals. At the bottom came foreigners below Thai insects. Rather amusing but there is a certain amount of truth there.