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so much trouble and ton's of chemicals to avoid small piece of latex, Isn't it killing fun ? Dorothy of Golden Girls fame used to say " our beds are crowded, when we sleep with somebody we sleep with everybody he slept before"

welcome in Bangkok, have fun and don't forget to report. But yes , fun first and second

treat it as reasonable tuition fee, glad you caught on 555 already

this is exactly how you should tip, according to level satisfaction and attention he lavishes on you. I'm not to shy to tell boy "leave that phone alone' either in bar or in the room and trained quite few of then to ask if they want to check something on the screen or answer call. don't be afraid to send boy tip free if you buy him a drink and he will leave you to talk to somebody else. It happens rarely but it does and it's assholish behavior IMNSHO. On another hand watch those who gulp drink fast and are asking for another one, " I have one , you have one" is my answer .......................... count on 5000-7000 short time tip, try negotiate less if you feel like but haggling usually spoils experience , but for that money I'd secure up front time 2-3 hrs so they wont leave you after first drop of what you know what ............... I agree with your assessment of massage venues and their boys, only inconvenience is that their usual time limitation 1 or 1.5 hr in case you like boy and want to spent more time with him. On course you can work out with boys what they do, in many places you will be informed up front. When booking at Jey they will tell you outright is he is top, bottom or vers and his tip level for 1 or 1.5 hr .............. don't have any preconceived notions as who does what, gay or straight. Personal charm and money , in any order and blend proportion are making miracles. When one of my forum friends told me certain super macho guy bottomed for him I thought " yeah, sure , he doesn't let even touch his butt without cringe, whom you are kidding ?' but said nothing and wisely. Next trip I offed guy in question and he confessed that he did bottom for some guy and shock to himself , he liked it . I assume he had my friend in mind but who knows if he came to liking it ? I think I already reported , in January my semi-regular who is very averse to kissing as soon as he entered room planted THE KISS on me , I almost fainted. He said "it's my New Year gift to you ".

and KY ?

Thanks God we have only one Boyztown there

viagra ?

no word how victim is doing. I don't think just apology will make them even

you are such time waster, lol

those are two out of 202 jurisdictions in the world and fundamental differences between them exist. From our own backyard - you may have sex with your boyfriend in Los Angeles and it's just sex. Do the same in Kampala or Riyad and you may be dangling from the gallows.

that's my trademark, didn't you notice ?

as they say where I was born "hungry always thinks about the bread"

I can live with that ............... not being legal expert I think you are too attached to Anglo-Saxon legal stem of common-law. A lot of countries don't use it and they if statute says something is a crime , it's a crime. I doubt OJ Simpson saga would work in say, Europe with opposite outcomes in criminal and civil lawsuits.

no , I had other , non-Asian country in mind

I'm always amazed that people can drink that like gin was never invented ....... It's mamasan.s job to be pushy so learn to ignore them or tell them you like the girls, they will not believe you but get a subtle f...off message in Moonlight there are two categories of guys, models and floor boys. Floor boys are those who usually sport numbers indicating they are available. Of fee 500. Some floor boys are better looking than some models IMNSHO Models have their own parade and are introduced by the name , off fee 1000. Tip expected may be steep Since you like both Jupiter and Moonlight you may be interested to know that Moonlight is in old Jupiter's location before they moved to soi 4.

Like JackR said above don't get discouraged by bad experience. It happened to all of us , even very experienced ones. Skill of navigating system comes only with experience and training yourself with help of what you learn here on forum. Keep in mind though we posters are showing world as we see through our lenses. Every bar and every boy in them will be either top of the line , not to be missed for some but also run for others. I said this billion times on this forum that my best and second worst encounter was with the same Tawan boy two years apart No doubt guy you offed from Screwboys acted as an asshole. As professional he sensed that you are new to the scene and skilfully milked you of money (and some other stuff I gather, as well ). Those things happed but they are rare. Sometimes we lose head in heat of the moment and ignore warning signals, sometimes we see them but still feel like acting fair by keeping our side of bargain , usually to regret it later. For me one of those is when boy or mamasan marketing him seem to be too eager or too pushy. Check your bin in the bar and don't assume you already paid for this or that. If they see you careless with money they may exploit it. If you have doubt, ask. Thais on the street are very honest bunch but inside of bars many morals are taking back seat in the corner. You seem to be surprised by advice that you should tip boy sitting with you if you bought him a drink already. Out of that drink he may get 20-50 baht , in few bars only as much as 100. In meantime you are holding him beside, scaring of other prospective customers. It's why you should tip him, at least to compensate for possible loss of earnings. You will see it for yourself, boy of your dreams sitting with some customer while you are salivating , praying that old , fat troll will go home in 5 minutes. As Spoon advised above , if you are subsequently taking boy with you, no need to tip him even if you had him sitting for prolonged time. hope it helped and have luck with Tawan guys

different countries may have different legal systems. In some offering money not to start lawsuit would be legal only before case is launched. As soon a s....t hits the fan it's crime

No, 11.45 is my usual bed time , rarely earlier. On holidays likely much later, not only in Thailand. I'm strong believer that less you sleep on vacations , longer your vacations are so often I'm terrorizing my long time companions into early 7 am breakfast. I like rise early too, there's price for it , hours between 6-9 pm are my worst and never ask me for loan at that time, decline is sure thing. After 9 I come back to life

Jey Spa is now in soi 43 , moved there from soi 41 well before covid debacle. I had always good experience there in both old and new location and I'm shocked by Oz findings. I wonder who that boy was, perhaps some new , still untrained or God forbid, some hard nosed popular veteran ?. I'm curious too, if he did not , that would be disaster as there usually it's first thing they do after closing door.

Yes it's called " dry oasis "

Time will do it's magic. I recall very well when similar idea was raised in country where my sister lives, it was met with laughs at first but after a while it caught on. First pedestrians were shocked that cars stopped, now they are shocked when they don't and this is vary rare occurrence indeed. Of course hefty penalties and their zealous enforcement sped up that implementation of that module of educating public, both driving and walking.

I think you are right 2500 for short time is quite generous considering that they even don't have bar to work in now. I wish you luck and waiting for report. I always maintain that Tawan bay was most friendly of them all and their boys were very approachable.

what? you are 85 already?

not as easy as Bangkok, Pattaya is rather twink kingdom but you will find some hunks in BoyzBoyzBoyz, Dreamboys and Xboys. Forget about Sunee but in passing I saw few hunky guys in Jomtien too.

yes